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Uncle Joe

(58,365 posts)
1. And here it is.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:54 PM
Apr 2016


Biden Looks Back, Aspirations Intact

He remains neutral in the battle between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, but not between their campaign styles. He’ll take Mr. Sanders’s aspirational approach over Mrs. Clinton’s caution any day.

“I like the idea of saying, ‘We can do much more,’ because we can,” Mr. Biden said in an interview on the Washington-to-Wilmington, Del., Amtrak train he has ridden throughout four decades in national politics.

“I don’t think any Democrat’s ever won saying, ‘We can’t think that big — we ought to really downsize here because it’s not realistic,’ ” he said in a mocking tone. “C’mon man, this is the Democratic Party! I’m not part of the party that says, ‘Well, we can’t do it.’ ”


(snip)

Pointing to the financial crisis, the Great Recession and fierce battles with Republicans over health care and government funding, Mr. Biden said, “We had about eight atom bombs dropped on our desk.”

Yet he likes the idea that Mr. Sanders is aiming high, regardless of whether the large steps he envisions to narrow income inequality and broaden economic opportunity become realized in the next presidential term. The philosophy Mr. Biden has advocated within the Obama White House: Push for a lot, and persevere over the long run.

“Presidents have always been told by really smart people: ‘Don’t push something that you can’t succeed in — it diminishes your power,’ ” he said. “I completely disagree with that proposition.

“Everything I’ve ever cared about — with the exception of the president’s brilliant passage of the Affordable Care Act — takes time,” he added. “The only way to get these big things done is talk about them.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/us/politics/biden-looks-back-aspirations-intact.html?_r=0



Thanks for the thread, Donkees.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
6. Joe Biden is very right about this. Dream big. Don't settle for less than you can achieve.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:04 AM
Apr 2016

Work hard to do what is right not just for yourself but for others. Those are the secrets to a truly 'SUCCESSFUL' life in my experience.

It's not what you have. It is what you work for and do and share that matters.

Obama and Biden did have a very tough legacy to deal with these past 8 years. And the Republicans have been just nasty and mean. No doubt about that.

But even Obama could have aimed higher. And I must say that the Bankruptcy Bill which is partly Biden's baby is not good. Not at all.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
3. Do you think Joe will be issuing an apology by sunrise?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:34 PM
Apr 2016

The last time Joe spoke the truth about Bernie, he had to backtrack a bit. I'm sure Hillary was on the phone, telling Joe what needed to be done. She's probably brow beating him right now.

I think Joe really likes Bernie. This is the second time that he's compared Bernie and Hillary--with Bernie coming out on top and Hillary be cast in a not-so-positive light.

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
4. I can picture Obama pulling him aside and saying STFU Joe
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:20 AM
Apr 2016

But that's just an assumption. Maybe not as harsh, but along those lines.

On edit, I think you're right coffeecat. Biden came up in a kinda middle class working environment in his younger days, so I think he can relate to Bernie's message 1000%

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
5. Wow! That was the best Bernie I've seen yet, and I've seen the best possible in Bernie's campaign
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 01:57 AM
Apr 2016

this year.

The Democratic Party is about doing what is right even when it is difficult, not about settling for what can easily be done. The Democratic Party is about doing what is right for the American working people even when Republicans refuse to do it.

I cannot understand Hillary's constant negativity.

If I had lived the first 70 or so years of my life following Hillary's philosophy of do what they let you do, I sure wouldn't have had the exciting, wonderful life I have had, and I certainly would not be on DU today.

Hillary's philosophy is utterly defeatist. I'm with Bernie. Let's dream big and work hard and see what happens. We may or may not get everything we hope for. But sometimes, and not that rarely in my experience, if you dream big and work hard, miracles happen. Amazing things happen.

When I was a child, my family was poor. I didn't know we were poor, because my parents were very thrifty, and most everybody I knew in the post-war period was struggling. But we were poor. There were people who were poorer than we were, but we were also poor.

My dream was to visit the Parthenon. My sixth grade teacher had taught us about the Parthenon and democracy, and I just got this feeling inside that I wanted to and would one day go there. When I was 21 -- 1964, my husband (he was born even poorer than I was -- barely enough to eat) got grants to study in France, and one of the first places we went was to Athens -- in a DeuxChevaux, a French car that looked and felt when you sat in it like a tin can that moved. We drove down through then Yugoslavia to Athens and spent about three days just wandering around and sitting outside the Parthenon. Just soaking it in.

That was just the beginning of my amazing life. You don't have to have a lot of money. You have to have dreams and work really hard.

Dare to dream. Set your goals, and work really, really hard, and you can achieve at least many of those dreams.

That is fundamentally American -- dream big, work hard and be thankful when your dreams, some of them anyway, come true.

It is distressing to me when I hear Hillary tell me that we in America can't have universal healthcare, can't have free tuition at state schools including colleges and universities and all the We Can'ts she talks about all the time. It is so limiting. Other countries work together and dream and enjoy those very things.

Dream big, guys. Dream big. You only have one life. We only have one country.

For those who don't know about the Deux Chevaux (two horsepower I think), here is a link to a picture of a Deux Chevaux:

https://www.google.com/search?q=deux+chevaux&biw=1005&bih=518&site=webhp&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwi28qm0xaHMAhULwWMKHcLGB4cQsAQIKA#imgrc=l3kiFcnyJuZbeM%3A

Dream big. And vote for Bernie because he doesn't just dream big, he thinks big and he is smart enough and works hard enough to achieve his dreams.

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