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Protesters wearing masks depicting German Chancellor Angela Merkel and US President Barack Obama as they demonstrate against Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) agreement ahead of Obama's visit in Hannover, Germany, April 23, 2016.
Some 35,000 people marched through the streets of Hanover on Saturday (April 23) to protest against a sweeping European-US trade deal, police said. Organisers put the number of attendees at around 90,000.
The protest against the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) was organised a day before the visit by the US President Barack Obama.
He is set to promote the deal at Hanover's trade fair on Sunday (April 24) in a joint bid with German Chancellor Angela Merkel to revive the momentum behind the agreement, which top trade officials hope to push through this year.
Demonstrators took to the streets of the northern German city bearing placards and banners calling on politicians to "Stop TTIP and CETA" - an EU-Canada trade deal that looks set to come into force in 2017.
Public scepticism in Germany has clouded the TTIP negotiations from the start, but support for the deal has plunged to new lows in recent months.
A YouGov survey showed on Thursday (April 21) that only 17 percent of Germans believe the free trade deal is a good thing, down from 55 percent two years ago. Many Germans fear the deal will lower standards for products, consumer protection and the labour market.
*German officials said ahead of Obama's visit they remained optimistic that a broad "political agreement" between Brussels and Washington could be clinched BEFORE OBAMA LEAVES OFFICE IN JANUARY.
*The hope is that TTIP COULD THEN BE FINALISED WITH OBAMA'S SUCCESSOR.
http://www.businessinsider.com/at-least-35000-protest-in-hanover-a-day-before-obama-visits-germany-to-promote-ttip-trade-deal-2016-4 *MORE, http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017361663
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)So far they have all cost us jobs and weakened our economy.
Our negative balance of payments says all that needs to be said about these trade agreements. No, no, and no a thousand times. We cannot afford either the TPP or the TPIP or any other trade agreement.
They are primarily a way to export pollution so that Americans don't realize what is really being done to our earth.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)On DU I put them on ignore.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)appalachiablue
(41,153 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I hope everyone watches it.
What he says about the TPP and TPIP tribunals is absolutely right. The NAFTA tribunal is a danger to our democracy, to our republic, to our self-determination as are the tribunals created by other trade agreements.
I encourage everyone to read more about the cases brought to these kangaroo court. It is appalling to read the list of cases. So far most of them are not heard beyond the initial stage due to procedural problems. It's just a matter of time until the lawyers figure out how to avoid the procedural problems and fix the tribunals to rule favorably for their corporate clients.
We need to wake up the public about the dangers of these tribunals.
Thanks for posting this.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I mean, after all corporations are people!
Europeans, eat your (GMO) peas!
cui bono
(19,926 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)and this betrayal hurts. I cannot for the life of me imagine what would make a president do this.
appalachiablue
(41,153 posts)April 24. Pres. Obama, "Angela and I agree that the US and the EU need to keep moving forward with TTIP, the Trans Atlantic Trade Investment Partnership negotiations. What you're seeing around the world is PEOPLE ARE UNSETTLED BY GLOBALIZATION. People visibly see a plant moving, and jobs lost and 'the narrative' develops that this is weakening rather than strengthening the position of ordinary people and ordinary workers.
But if you look at the benefits to the US or to Germany of Free Trade around the world it is indisputable that it has made our economy stronger, it has made sure that our businesses are the most competitive in the world.
Keep in mind there were people who didn't think that with TPP, the Trans Pacific Partnership that we ever would be able to give me authority to actually move it forward and we got it done.
I don't anticipate that we will be able to have completed ratification of a deal by the end of the year, but I do anticipate that we can have the negotiations completed and people will be able to see exactly why this is good for our two countries."
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Published on Apr 24, 2016. U.S. President Barack Obama said the European Union and United States must move forward with a free trade accord still under negotiation which supporters say could boost each economy by some $100 billion. "It is indisputable" that free trade has strengthened the U.S. economy and also has brought enormous benefits to countries that engage in it, Obama said. The U.S. president spoke at a news conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, one of his closest allies in dealing with a shaky global economy and security crises in the Middle East and Ukraine.
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Duckfan
(1,268 posts)You don't suppose that means U.S. jobs do you?
Naaaah. He wouldn't do that.
appalachiablue
(41,153 posts)"Obama's a globalist." In London, in his speech Obama stated he realized that countries are... "parochial" and you know...have "factions"... It was awful, about as bad as this Germany speech which was a bear to transcribe.
Jobs you say? Well, being rather cosmopolitan myself...I'm above Those Kinds of Things... <sarcasm>
The entire two-component 'trade investment partnership' is more than enough to drive a person around the bend...Secret meetings with 60, or 600 corporation trade lobbyists since 2005 planning the fate of us and the planet for the next 25 years and beyond...
Is Monsantoism a recognized ideology yet?