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PROBLEMS INSIDE PA POLLING STATION 4/26/16 Philadelphia Democratic Primary Bernie Sanders (Original Post) Donkees Apr 2016 OP
She is stealing the primary. Again....."when people come in this door people hand them these slips" bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #1
Who do you mean by "she?" This is a supporter who obviously doesn't know or understand Jitter65 Apr 2016 #25
Everything that goes wrong with Sanders campaign or his supporters ignorance of rules is always puffy socks Apr 2016 #28
I believe she does understand the rules. She was told to give those pamphlets out. Now who bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #31
Yes, the all-powerful Hillary, misbehaving everywhere at every moment in every primary. pnwmom Apr 2016 #33
I swear, the corruption and misinformation, it burns. Not BERNS. Burns. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #2
hard to hear greymouse Apr 2016 #3
It was a woman he (the voter) was talking to it seemed to me but does not matter it's cheating.. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #7
That electioneer is really dense or really good at acting dense Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #4
Why are you thanking the poll worker. It's a clear violation. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #8
You're right and I thank you, sir/ma'am Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #10
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #12
Cast of Characters Roy Rolling Apr 2016 #11
I wonder what would have happened if the police had been jwirr Apr 2016 #22
here is a list of all primaries bernie lost due to fraud and he is contesting ---> msongs Apr 2016 #5
So fraud is OK? Gore1FL Apr 2016 #37
K & R nt findrskeep Apr 2016 #6
Here we go again. Vinca Apr 2016 #9
If former President Jimmy Carter was able to monitor this election, Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #13
bernie should say stop this or we walk captainarizona Apr 2016 #14
When I was Judge of Elections in PA....... mrmpa Apr 2016 #15
Big deal they are endorsements! This is to influene the vote of voters. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #19
I understand that........ mrmpa Apr 2016 #52
In Texas.. cannabis_flower Apr 2016 #46
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #16
All evidence should be compiled and American people should contest felix_numinous Apr 2016 #17
And we cannot be blamed if we refuse to go along with fraud. jwirr Apr 2016 #24
Yes!! felix_numinous Apr 2016 #29
Yes. We cannot let this type of government by fraud continue jwirr Apr 2016 #44
Clinton is so corrupt - and the people behind her even more, she doesn't deserve the presidency Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #18
That's how it's done, folks... ReRe Apr 2016 #20
that poll worker Pharaoh Apr 2016 #21
No! She is acting stupid but she is not! She asked him if he was a lawyer! bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #26
Always a conspiracy with the Berns. Tommy2Tone Apr 2016 #23
You totally do realilze that you are in denial of what this video showed right? bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #27
You realize all these conspiracies make you all look nuts? Tommy2Tone Apr 2016 #51
Go look in the mirror... ReRe Apr 2016 #55
I see a winner Tommy2Tone Apr 2016 #61
You see a winner... ReRe Apr 2016 #67
Illegal.... n/t KoKo Apr 2016 #30
LOL you are right but I would definitely show why we are not jwirr Apr 2016 #47
A guy walks in with a video showing a stack of Hillary campaign ads on a shelf. For all we know puffy socks Apr 2016 #32
+1000. pnwmom Apr 2016 #34
what BS LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #39
"They" who? puffy socks Apr 2016 #42
Do I have to fricken transcribe it for you? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #56
I see you need it spelled out clearly to you. puffy socks Apr 2016 #62
"She was removing them"? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #72
Strange, The video clearly shows him guiding her over to the stack while showing her one of the puffy socks Apr 2016 #74
And off you go to my full ignore list puffy. Capt.Rocky300 Apr 2016 #41
It's your bubble. You're entitled to stay in it. Good bye now. puffy socks Apr 2016 #45
Agreed with the other poster, nothing but trouble. Off to ignore mrdmk Apr 2016 #75
Listen once in a while....let the bern sink into your soul now !!!!! Pauldg47 Apr 2016 #43
Please, a Sanders supporter with stacks of Hillary campaign stock? NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #50
Tad Devine's dirty tricks. Politicub Apr 2016 #54
Did you watch the video? The woman knew that the ads were there. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #60
Yes I watched it and she didnt know they bwere there until he showed her. Then she said theyd been puffy socks Apr 2016 #68
The law says the pamphlets can't be within 150 feet of the polling place. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #69
That sounds like a lame excuse to take the facts off to a tangent. Baitball Blogger Apr 2016 #65
Just WOW LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #35
Completly. Fucking. Illegal. Period. Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2016 #36
Yes, the law is clear on this WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2016 #57
whahhahhhehehabhabhhhabbbbbaaahaaaa Cryptoad Apr 2016 #38
blurpahahhhhabhahhhhahbhgagorpblurp LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #40
Ah, the power of the smart-phones everywhere. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #48
Here is another ballot given to someone at another polling station in Philly that also does jane123 Apr 2016 #49
Clinton Machine scumbags. polichick Apr 2016 #53
This reeks of a Tad Devine move Politicub Apr 2016 #58
There's nobody more Rovian than HRC herself. polichick Apr 2016 #59
Read up on Tad Devine and check back in Politicub Apr 2016 #63
"Dirty tricks" are Clinton specialties - where have you been... polichick Apr 2016 #64
Devine does act like a toddler - a petulant one Politicub Apr 2016 #66
I'll take Bernie over the corrupt Clintons any day! polichick Apr 2016 #71
Here's one from 2008 Donkees Apr 2016 #70
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #73
Voted for Hillary Today jmousso75 Apr 2016 #76
Just another wrong Bernie voter. Get over it. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #77
Duncan Black (Atrios) from Philadelphia weighs in. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #78
What is interesting here is a person flashing around a piece of paper, saying Hillary Clinton's name Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #79

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
1. She is stealing the primary. Again....."when people come in this door people hand them these slips"
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:02 PM
Apr 2016

"what are these for" "for people to vote" Report this to Bernie's attorney's.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
25. Who do you mean by "she?" This is a supporter who obviously doesn't know or understand
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016

the rules. Hillary has nothing to do with this.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
28. Everything that goes wrong with Sanders campaign or his supporters ignorance of rules is always
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:29 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton's fault.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
31. I believe she does understand the rules. She was told to give those pamphlets out. Now who
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

do you think thought it a good idea to give them out? She asks the guy if he is a lawyer.

greymouse

(872 posts)
3. hard to hear
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:12 PM
Apr 2016

What was happening, was the guy in the left a polling official or a citizen, and the guy on the right was handing out that corrupt junk? Did the corrupt guy get thrown out? Or did he just move outside?

There is a police officer at our polling stations to deal with crap like this.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
4. That electioneer is really dense or really good at acting dense
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:18 PM
Apr 2016

How come it's always a Hillary supporter? Doesn't the Bernie campaign send operatives to violate the most fundamental polling laws and then act too stupid to know that's what he's doing?

Maybe the Hillbots are right. The media is biased. They only show this kind of crap when it's one of Hill's shills doing it, even if the shill in question is a former president and Hillary's husband.

Kudos to the poll worker. Thank you, sir.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
8. Why are you thanking the poll worker. It's a clear violation.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:29 PM
Apr 2016

My understanding is that he is a voter who found these on the table when he came to vote.

Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #8)

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
22. I wonder what would have happened if the police had been
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:17 PM
Apr 2016

called. It is a law that was being broken.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
13. If former President Jimmy Carter was able to monitor this election,
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:50 PM
Apr 2016

like he has so many others around the world, he would give it a failing grade.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
15. When I was Judge of Elections in PA.......
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:00 PM
Apr 2016

I would not let electioneers in the hall. They had to hand out their stuff outside by the front door. Voters could bring the pamphlets etc. into the voting hall & if they were done they could either trash it, or give it to me & I would hand it back to the electioneer outside.
Also those names on the form are the endorsed Democrats for those positions. Bernie's name would not be on it.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
52. I understand that........
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:11 PM
Apr 2016

but the Bernie person kept asking "where's Bernie's name"? His name wouldn't be on that list.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
46. In Texas..
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:05 PM
Apr 2016

we have to measure 100 feet from the polling location and put a marker there. Anyone doing any electioneering has to stand behind that marker. Usually, it's out in the parking lot, not by the door.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
17. All evidence should be compiled and American people should contest
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:03 PM
Apr 2016

this election and do over with countable paper ballots, so we can get through this election without cheating.

HRC people should be aware that Trump or Republicans could easily steal this election too--so their argument against Trump works for a fair election.

We cannot be forced to go along with fraud.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
29. Yes!!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:31 PM
Apr 2016

They are projecting their own shame onto us, this dance has been going on for too long. We need to break out of the control matrix that is closing in around us, and solve this problem.

Cheers jwirr

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
44. Yes. We cannot let this type of government by fraud continue
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:03 PM
Apr 2016

because it just pulls us down further into the dirt. In history we mark the changes that made a difference by remembering the spark that set the revolution off. "Let them eat cake." The original Boston Tea Party. The slave revolts of Rome. Nat Turners revolution in our own south.

That they think we should just set back and close our eyes is proof that we need to stop listening.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
18. Clinton is so corrupt - and the people behind her even more, she doesn't deserve the presidency
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:04 PM
Apr 2016

any more than a Republican would.

Debbie and her ilk are the death of this democracy.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
20. That's how it's done, folks...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:09 PM
Apr 2016

... plain as day, right there in clear sight. This would be a check: Have someone enter the polling place with a Bernie t-shirt on. What then?

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
23. Always a conspiracy with the Berns.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:21 PM
Apr 2016

I guess it is impossible for you folks to believe Democrats prefer Hillary?

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
27. You totally do realilze that you are in denial of what this video showed right?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:27 PM
Apr 2016

and another thread is stating that vote machines will not let you vote for Bernie.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
55. Go look in the mirror...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:20 PM
Apr 2016

... you will see who the nut is. You're like the pot calling the kettle black.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
67. You see a winner...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:38 PM
Apr 2016

... well aren't you special. I definitely don't see you as a winner. Who are you, narcissus himself?

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
32. A guy walks in with a video showing a stack of Hillary campaign ads on a shelf. For all we know
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:37 PM
Apr 2016

he put them there himself. I sure wouldn't put it past a Sanders supporter as we have seen they have posted false ads about Warren endorsing, about Hillary dying, break firewalls to access information they aren't entitled to. Their campaign and supporters behave exactly opposite of what they say they are all about.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
39. what BS
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

did you listen to the video? She at one point admitted they hand them out to voters as they enter in order to "show them who to vote for". If he had brought them in, she would be saying she hadn't seen those before. Please don't insult our's and your intelligence. She was fully aware of what they were.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
42. "They" who?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:01 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton supporters hand them out outside the 150' of the polling locations this woman works at, of course she has seen them. Where is the person that was handing them out in the polling area? The only person I see is a Sanders supporter.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
56. Do I have to fricken transcribe it for you?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:21 PM
Apr 2016

"When people come in this door, people hand them …slips to vote, and people can vote for whoever they want to.."

"So what's the purpose of this slip?" (On which Bernie is not on, but Hillary is the largest font and on top)

"For people to vote. If your not gonna vote for her, you don't have to"

"Right, but you're not supposed to do that within 100 feet of a polling place"

To another worker: "He's having a problem cause these are laying here"

So this isn't enough for you? You have to have some professional shot footage of they, they workers, handing them out? Or even the fact that she admits they are "laying there" within the station with no plans on removing them? And why be so argumentative? "Are you a lawyer?". She acts like she was caught red-handed and was in full defensive jacket.

You Hillbots have to learn when to pick you battles.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
62. I see you need it spelled out clearly to you.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:27 PM
Apr 2016

That is not proof he didn't set them there.
That is also not proof she is a Hillary supporter who just went along with it.
She was removing them and the Sanders supporter kept harassing her until she finally said "are you a lawyer?"

Why continue on repeating the same things over and over when she is doing the very thing he wanted ?
She was removing them. He wasn't asking who laid them there. I wonder why he didn't care who laid them there?

Seems like more ugly antics from the Bernie camp who then tries to blame Hillary for some underhanded conspiracy as we've seen through the entire campaign season thus far.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
72. "She was removing them"?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:52 PM
Apr 2016

She was NOT removing them. In fact she defended the fact they were there citing they were to show people who to vote for!
That is the whole fucking point of the video!!!!!


gawd, I could swear you hillbots can't be that stupid.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
74. Strange, The video clearly shows him guiding her over to the stack while showing her one of the
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016

ads to inform her of what they are. She just stated what they were for as he was describing them, so what?

She picks up the entire stack and moves them from the table. She even states "and whoever giving these out are supposed to be outside" as she walks away with them.


Perhaps you need your eyes checked?
OR you just see what you wish to see.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
50. Please, a Sanders supporter with stacks of Hillary campaign stock?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:10 PM
Apr 2016

That's a bit of a stretch even for the Hillary crew.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
60. Did you watch the video? The woman knew that the ads were there.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:24 PM
Apr 2016

The fellow making the video did not put the ads there. It's pretty clear from the video. He was documenting a violation of the law.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
68. Yes I watched it and she didnt know they bwere there until he showed her. Then she said theyd been
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:42 PM
Apr 2016

handing them out and she'd seen them. None of which shows that he didn't simply go get some pamphlets outside and lay them there and then come show her how the law was being broken by Hillary.

Just a question. Are Bernie's supporters so fickle that they could be swayed to switch their vote due to a pamphlet?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
69. The law says the pamphlets can't be within 150 feet of the polling place.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:44 PM
Apr 2016

That law should be respected and observed. If they were being handed out or left just outside the polling place and he brought them in, there was still a violation of law, and it will have to be investigated. I'm sure the guy taking the video would not risk bringing them within 150 feet of the polling place himself. He knew the law. He was checking for polling place violations.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
35. Just WOW
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:44 PM
Apr 2016

Between the lines it sounded like this worker was just acting stupid. She knew full well what was going on, she was a Hillary supporter, (another duped into voting against her best interests), and was complacent in this. Either she was involved in this electioneering crime or she at the very least went along with someone else's plan.

Hillary is leaving no stone unturned is she? That last primary scared the beJesus out of her.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
48. Ah, the power of the smart-phones everywhere.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:06 PM
Apr 2016

Glad you got the video, whoever you are who took it.

Arrogance is the trademark of Hillary and her supporters.

The poll worker (I gather that is who the woman was who was heard on the video) was amazingly unwilling to admit that there was a problem. Just amazing. Surely poll workers are instructed on the rules before they begin to work. Or was she a Hillary supporter?

jane123

(34 posts)
49. Here is another ballot given to someone at another polling station in Philly that also does
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:07 PM
Apr 2016

not have Sanders even listed. This is a different ballot than the one on the video.

[link:https://i.reddituploads.com/539c881a553b461fb974fd9b0882899f?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=1994514950e767ff8408658a2f0c5154|

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
63. Read up on Tad Devine and check back in
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:28 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary, as the front runner, doesn't resort to dirty tricks. That makes zero sense.

That's all on Bernie and his wunderkind Tad Devine - anything Tad touches ends up with a greasy stain.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
64. "Dirty tricks" are Clinton specialties - where have you been...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:32 PM
Apr 2016

for the last thirty years?! Devine is a toddler compared to Hill and Bill.

 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
78. Duncan Black (Atrios) from Philadelphia weighs in.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:00 PM
Apr 2016

Some people in the intertubes are upset about what they perceive as underhanded campaign tactics by the Clinton campaign here in the urban hellhole. It's standard practice for endorsing organizations, including the city party, to hand out filled in paper sample ballots (we have ancient machines for the actual voting), with the endorsed candidates listed, to people as they head into the polling places to vote. So, yes, the sample ballot I received helpfully told me to vote for Hillary Clinton.

As long as it's 10 feet from the polling place - a trivial distance - all of this is legal and completely standard in Philly elections. I'm not such a huge fan of the practice, but it isn't specific to the Clinton campaign or this election.

http://www.eschatonblog.com/2016/04/sample-ballots.html

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
79. What is interesting here is a person flashing around a piece of paper, saying Hillary Clinton's name
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:04 PM
Apr 2016

over and over within the 150 ft he is complaining. Is this person going to be subject to the same laws as he expects others to be? I don't know the laws in PA but in Texas no photos or filming. I THINK THEY HAVE THIS PERSON COMMITTING A CRIME.

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