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Powerful Veterans for Bernie Sanders Ad Will Move You | Vets For Bernie (Original Post) Donkees May 2016 OP
Kicked! zentrum May 2016 #1
Kicking for the vets democrank May 2016 #2
Sanders refused to serve in the military when other Americans were dying. Trust Buster May 2016 #3
Nam? librarylu May 2016 #5
He should not be honored by the VFW. He refused to serve. Trust Buster May 2016 #6
I am a proud Army veteran... N_E_1 for Tennis May 2016 #13
People should be angry about the Vietnam War and 20score May 2016 #17
That's how my friend who suffered agent orange and lost his leg feels too. nt Jitter65 May 2016 #8
There is a reason Bernie was honored zalinda May 2016 #15
Kicking because in six months, I /will/ be a veteran. VulgarPoet May 2016 #4
MSgt retired, USAF and I support Bernie Sanders n/t sarge43 May 2016 #7
Let's face it, NOBODY wanted to go to Vietnam.. Nobody.. there was the draft... secondwind May 2016 #9
Eights Years Of Ohio Army National Guard, 372nd Combat Engineers Here votesparks May 2016 #10
This Vet is for Bernie too. beemer27 May 2016 #11
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast May 2016 #12
Kicked and recommended. N_E_1 for Tennis May 2016 #14
You're right, Donkees Iwillnevergiveup May 2016 #16
Kicked and recommended. nt Duval May 2016 #18

librarylu

(503 posts)
5. Nam?
Wed May 11, 2016, 08:11 AM
May 2016

What if everyone had refused? Bernie wasn't the only one opposed to that action.

"So while it was true that Sanders sought conscientious objector status during the Vietnam War draft, that cannot in any way be conflated with the specific meaning of the term "draft-dodging." Further, Sanders was eligible for student deferments until at least 1964, when he graduated from the University of Chicago. By the time his number came up, Sanders was too old to be drafted."

http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-dodged-draft/

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,785 posts)
13. I am a proud Army veteran...
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:41 AM
May 2016

Vietnam. I served from 1971-1975. I am a member of the VFW post 2269 in Wixom, Mi..
I volunteer at our local PVA chapter in Novi, MI..
I am a patient at the VA hospital in Ann Arbor, MI., where I also volunteer a couple days a week.

I talk to many vets of all ages and political bents. At times the subject of politics comes up.
Not all are Democrats, some are very conservative, some are progressive. Some don't vote, some would never miss any election.

I have talked to Trump supporters, Clinton supporters, Sanders supporters. I have met vets that don't have any preferences of the candidates running at this time.

But, in all those talks with the array of different beliefs, I have not found one, not a single solitary vet that does not appreciate what Bernie Sanders has done and the manner he represents Veterans.

I also protested the Vietnam war, I applied for CO status myself. Those were very emotional and turbulent times. I graduated from a very small high school in 1970. We had 63 graduating seniors.
From that class a fully half of those kids were in the service. From that number I lost 19 very good friends. That was just high school. There were others.

I hold no animosity against those who did not serve, I hold no animosity against those who moved to Canada or just were "draft dodgers".
Those people believed in their convictions and had the strength and bravery to stick to those convictions. I admire their stances and them as individuals.

Bernie Sanders is one of those people, he has done much for vets, he has the intestinal fortitude to stand up for his beliefs, then act on them in a very positive manner.

Now tell me why you believe the VFW should not honor Senator Sanders.

20score

(4,769 posts)
17. People should be angry about the Vietnam War and
Wed May 11, 2016, 11:21 AM
May 2016

The Iraq War. But not at those who saw through the bullshit and tried to stop it. They're the fucking heroes. The anger, from the most moral and logical point of view, should be directed at those who lied to get us into the wars.

I served in the Air Force and support Sanders 100%.

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
15. There is a reason Bernie was honored
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:08 AM
May 2016

and if you had watched the video you would know why.

I feel sorry for your friend, he is still angry. When you are healthy, you don't get angry when other people are not in the circumstances that you are in. While I may envy those who have won the genetic lottery, I certainly don't hate them. I don't even hate those that break the rules, I just hope that they end up paying the price.

Life is what it is, you can't change the past, no matter how much you want to. Bernie fights hard for the veterans, which included funding the war that he didn't want. He knew that if there was no funding, that it would be the soldiers that would suffer and they were suffering enough already.

Z

beemer27

(463 posts)
11. This Vet is for Bernie too.
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:17 AM
May 2016

I am a combat veteran-US Army-Vietnam 1970. I am also US Army retired 100% disabled as a result of that service. At the time I looked down on those who got deferments or applied for CO status. As I grew older and learned how much we had been lied to, I changed my opinion. If we have a war, the people who support that war should volunteer to fight, not some young kid who has no idea why he is there. The people who support the war should also be the ones who pay for it. If no one is willing to pay the tab, or pick up a rifle and fight, we shouldn't be fighting that war. If Bernie gets in, we will have an honest President who will not send troops to kill and die for economic interests, empire-building, or ego building. We need a strong military, and intelligent honest leaders. We haven't had that kind of leadership for some time now. Bernie could supply that.

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