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Caller Mary: Kids Are Bad Because We Don't #Pray In #Schools! (Original Post) thomhartmann May 2016 OP
Mary, just trust in God. Downwinder May 2016 #1
Oh Mary! The Ku Klux Klan prays too! And has a dress code! muntrv May 2016 #2
We first wave Baby Boomers were the last generation who did school prayer sarge43 May 2016 #3
Thom, I heard this yesterday and was tempted to call in, phylny May 2016 #4
When she called, I thought I'd been transported to back to the 1950s appalachiablue May 2016 #5
Prayer was never taken out of school. FORCED prayer was. bjobotts May 2016 #6
nnnot Quakers MisterP May 2016 #7

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
3. We first wave Baby Boomers were the last generation who did school prayer
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:24 AM
May 2016

However, we produced, among others, George Bush and Donald Trump. I imagine Mary believes those two are the salt of the earth.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
4. Thom, I heard this yesterday and was tempted to call in,
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:53 AM
May 2016

but figured I'd never get through! I grew up in the 60s, and we never prayed in school. Perhaps this is because I grew up on Long Island, with a mixture of Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish classmates, but there was no bowing of the head to pray. We did have a moment of silence by the time I was in high school, but we were never encouraged to pray to any deity.

appalachiablue

(41,140 posts)
5. When she called, I thought I'd been transported to back to the 1950s
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:17 AM
May 2016

and the Lawrence Welk Show era. Freaked me out. In public schools in the 60s and 70s we didn't have prayer either, elementary through HS- Nada.

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
6. Prayer was never taken out of school. FORCED prayer was.
Thu May 26, 2016, 03:47 PM
May 2016

Students can pray whenever they want but if Mary thinks her beliefs should be forced on others she misses the point of freedom from religion. Quakers tried to force prayer on others and it was why they wee thrown out of England. Our second great principle is tolerance...and prayer and religious beliefs are tolerated but should never be forced on others. I went from a MO school where you were sent home if you wore a t-shirt under a sweater or didn't wear socks to Phoenix HS where they had beard growing contests for rodeo week and were wearing shorts and sandals. Suddenly I felt free and loved going to school. Sorry Mary but you need to stop living in the past...in Mayberry. Watch Michael Moores' new movie "Where to Invade Next" and look at what Finland did to become number 1 for best educated students out of HS. They used to be like us but decided to make a change to make it better for students. Fearful people pray...spiritual people live... in the now.

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