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Caller: Women Hate #Hillary Because They're Intimidated By Her... (Original Post) thomhartmann May 2016 OP
This women I know irl that don't like her DURHAM D May 2016 #1
I don't have messed up kids or spousal relationships The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #3
Ditto. elleng May 2016 #5
Thank you Warpy May 2016 #7
"......because they don't agree with her political positions" ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #20
Whatever are you talking about? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #21
Whereas Hillary supporters poop flowers and always speak mellifluously? n/t hopeforchange2008 May 2016 #9
Flowers? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #22
You may not realize zentrum May 2016 #10
I live in a smallish city and, unfortunately, DURHAM D May 2016 #15
I always supported myself, and I had no chlldren passiveporcupine May 2016 #19
I think this is true. madaboutharry May 2016 #2
Anyone who voted zentrum May 2016 #12
O.K., that is a valid position. madaboutharry May 2016 #13
Uh, no. That is pure hogwash. So what is the excuse for people not supporting Bill Clinton? Skwmom May 2016 #4
Yeah, I'm sure all his male buddies tell him so. Warpy May 2016 #6
Indicative of the deep state of denial in which many Hillary supporters find themselves. Maedhros May 2016 #8
Don't know what the purpose of this is...but, I read this constantly KoKo May 2016 #11
I wouldn't sell women in general short. I think they have legit reasons not to support her. EndElectoral May 2016 #14
What a second. That is INSULTING the intelligence of woman. It's like we couldn't have valid Skwmom May 2016 #16
Oh for fuck's sake. NV Whino May 2016 #17
Hooo-argh!!! chervilant May 2016 #18
A man is telling me that I'm supposed to be intimidated Loki May 2016 #23
"it doesn't matter what you're thinking, if you disagree with me that's gotta be internalization" MisterP May 2016 #24

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
1. This women I know irl that don't like her
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:02 PM
May 2016

for the most part have messed up kids and spousal relationships. Also, for the most part they did not and are not working outside the home.



The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
3. I don't have messed up kids or spousal relationships
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:06 PM
May 2016

and I have always worked outside the home. And I don't like Hillary. I am not intimidated by her and do not resent her success (I have the same academic degrees she has); I just don't like her politics. Don't you think it's possible for smart, successful, well-educated women to not like Hillary because they don't agree with her political positions, instead of assuming women who don't like Hillary are sad, feckless losers who resent her success? How insulting can you get?

Warpy

(111,266 posts)
7. Thank you
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:32 PM
May 2016

Oh, I'll vote for her if the party insists she's the nominee because I know we can survive one more conservative Democrat.

We can't survive another Republican.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
20. "......because they don't agree with her political positions"
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:49 PM
May 2016

Oh, sure.

Rush Limbaugh and Fox News watchers, for example.....

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
21. Whatever are you talking about?
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:07 PM
May 2016

Not agreeing with Hillary means you agree with Limbaugh or Faux? I don't think so!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
22. Flowers?
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:27 PM
May 2016

No, not mere flowers; they poop diamonds out of platinum sphincters and speak with the tongues of cherubim.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
10. You may not realize
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:44 PM
May 2016

…..it but this is a really insulting, condescending comment. I'm sure you're telling the truth—that this describes the women you know who don't support her, but the subtext says they are timid, ill-informed, bad parents, bad wives—they couldn't possibly be against her because of good political analysis or hard lived values.

This is the kind of attitude/statement that has turned off so many young women and minority women to the feminism of the 60's and 70's.

I come from a strongly progressive Democratic family with very accomplished women—professors, writers, artists, psychologists-- and all three living generations are for Bernie, myself included.

Their analysis of her politics is is their driving force. It depresses the hell out of me that HRC may be the woman to break the glass ceiling—when she is so much of the paradigm of the Old Boys Club—hawkish, corporate, often dishonest and entitled.

Not intimidated by her at all. Wish I could meet her and tell her a few things to her face.

Could no more support a woman just because she's a woman than I could support Maggie Thatcher.



DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
15. I live in a smallish city and, unfortunately,
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:05 PM
May 2016

everyone knows too much about everyone. I was just talking about my personal experience in this campaign season. I could care less who someone supports, I just think it is interesting how they fit into certain types. Naturally, the men and women who ALWAYS vote Republican are of a certain type also.



passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
19. I always supported myself, and I had no chlldren
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:30 PM
May 2016

And I've worked with women who were smart and positive and got things done.

I've also worked with women who were assholes and just power hungry, and caused a lot of difficulty in working with others.

I don't put Hillary in the first group. She does not intimidate me in the least. But she does disgust me. Strong women know you don't have to act strong to be strong.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
2. I think this is true.
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:05 PM
May 2016

There is often a lack of sisterhood that lurks below the surface among women. It's a form of resentment that is hard to explain.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
13. O.K., that is a valid position.
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:54 PM
May 2016

I was angry for a long time over that vote. It still troubles me. I have always thought of it as opportunistic. But, politics is messy and at the end of the day I think she would make a better president than Bernie.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
4. Uh, no. That is pure hogwash. So what is the excuse for people not supporting Bill Clinton?
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:08 PM
May 2016

That he is the husband of a powerful woman.

Why I think this is so stupid is because there are SO MANY reasons not to support the Clintons, that to try to say a lot of woman do not support her because they are intimidated is ludicrous. Try disgusted by their policies and how they do business.

And they accuse Bernie supporters of being in denial...

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
8. Indicative of the deep state of denial in which many Hillary supporters find themselves.
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:37 PM
May 2016

It's just not possible that people don't like her past actions and policies, they must be "sexist" or "intimidated" or "hateful."

Thus, these kinds of polemics can be dismissed without concern.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
11. Don't know what the purpose of this is...but, I read this constantly
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:45 PM
May 2016

here on DU. It seems to be what she wants to project to get her elected and that she has to use a guy who went against both Hillary and Anita Hill to get her elected with her Super Pac .....well, it makes me Cringe. I'm tired of hearing about her "battle for women." I've not seen any evidence of it.

She is the Anti- Strong Female...Always Playing the VICTIM! This is Not a Strong Woman...she rides on Her Husband, former President's Coat Tails! Sure she was NY Senator...but, again, on her Husband's Coat Tails as former First Lady...playing the Victim, again.

Yes she has made connections all over the World...and maybe "on her own" she might have made some difference...BUT her Husband's Coat Tails are what she rides on. No matter what one thinks...she is running for Bill's Third Term because he is Campaigning for Her and she has stated he will be a prominent part of "Hillary Administration."

And, she has taken advantage of that.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
16. What a second. That is INSULTING the intelligence of woman. It's like we couldn't have valid
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:12 PM
May 2016

reasons (e.g., policy, being dishonest) for not supporting her.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
23. A man is telling me that I'm supposed to be intimidated
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:47 PM
May 2016

By an intelligent, strong woman. That's fucking insulting. In all my years on this earth I know that there are men who fear an intelligent woman. I've met plenty of them. Keep this shit up and you will find out just what intimidated really means.

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