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PLEASE WAKE UP SUPERDELAGATES!! BERNIE WILL WIN! HILLARY WILL LOSE!


HELLO? ANYBODY HOME???????

How democratic of you.

My understanding is Bernie has one 46% of the pledged delegates and Hillary has won 54% based on the primaries and caucuses, in your terms the will of the people. Now tell me, do we have the same proportional breakdown of superdelegates? Shouldn't Bernie also have 46% of the superdelegates if he's won 46% of the regular delegates? If not then the will of the people is being subverted by the Democratic Party, so your comment makes zero sense.

She is ahead in pledged delegates by a wide margin. Even if the SD's were allocated by win, she'd still be ahead by that same wide margin. The SD's have never flipped a nomination against the people. Doing so wouldn't be very democratic.

There's no big mystery to Trump's success. He's just a more accomplished demagogue than his contemporaries. Feeding public bigotries has been practiced for thousands of years with varying rates of success.

Major keys for hypnosis to work ironically are both relaxation and strong emotion.

Relaxation allows information to reach the subconscious and strong emotion combined with repetition is what cements the memory or message.

All hypnosis is actually self-hypnosis, even if you were hypnotized by a guiding hypnotist, you can't truly be hypnotized if you don't want to be.

Mediation and/or prayer works under these same principles.

Branding and persuasion is what they said trump is expert at. This is more a view on his ability to brand people and things. Low Energy might be mentioned in jebs obituary years from now.

Mountains of evidence hypnosis works. No evidence it works as "hypnosis" from things like political rallies.

But hypnotic techniques sure do work. For example, watch an Adolf Hitler speech.

...which is definitely not what Trump is doing, even if such a thing were possible with mass audiences. Adolf Hitler was also a successful demagogue, and also most certainly did not employ "hypnotic techniques".

There is no secret voodoo to hypnosis. It simply combines relaxation techniques with cognitive behavioral therapy.

and our corporate media conglomerate have saturated coverage of Trump whether he had anything worthy to say or not, of this there is no dispute.

They even say "The world's top news source on natural health"

and manipulate. Note that there are many Trump supporters who just want him regardless of any kind of factual considerations or even common sense. They certainly act hypnotized.

Simply legitimizing and feeding peoples' prejudices, hate, fear, and other emotions is all that's required to throw reason right out the window. It absolutely appeals to those who are easily manipulated and has been a valuable tool of the right wing since recorded history and undoubtedly well before.

That doesn't require hypnotism, they already possess the foundation of his appeal

Yes, he amps up people.

Hair and Herr do not and did not lull people to sleep or to passivity, but into an active trance-like state. It's got nothing to do with the "voodoo" straw man argument.

More like sufi trance states and EDM dance trance-like states and chanting trance states.

In the trance-like state he increases their tendency to suspend critical thinking.

He reinforces their belief system rooted in "there's one big problem" ("Mexicans" or "Muslims" -- related in their minds). Hence many or most of them say if he "builds the wall" they'll forgive everything else he might do against them (his followers -- and we know he renege on almost all his promises given half a chance).

Here's the dirty dozen RWA follower credos. Guess which ones he reinforces:

* Authoritarian submission
* Fear
* Self-righteousness
* Hostility
* Lack of critical thinking
* "Our biggest problem" thinking
* Compartmentalized thinking
* Double standards
* Feeling empowered in groups
* Dogmatism
* Ethnocentrism
* Prejudice

There is no such thing as an "active trance-like state".

There is no voodoo involved with feeding negative base emotions. These people aren't in any sort of a "trance". They are simply hearing what they want to hear.

Trump isn't the problem. He's a symptom of the problem.

Trump is a huge problem and a symptom of an even huger problem.

can be convinced of anything.

That doesn't mean voodoo has efficacy.

If you take the literal definition

"the ability to produce a desired or intended result."

Voodoo can be and HAS been quite effective.

Confirmation bias plays a strong role in all of this and Trump is using it to his advantage very well.

Hillary can't beat him in a debate, because his position is basically "Trust me, I'll do what needs to be done and it will be the right choice at the time, while I built a multi-billion empire, you have left a string of disasters in your wake." Worse, he can show Clinton to be just another corrupt politician, because he is someone who paid her off. He has the receipts.

The confirmation bias is very strong here.

That's kind of my whole point.

Just because something is effective in achieving a desired outcome doesn't mean it has the ability to produce the desired outcomes.

So while all sorts of placebos are effective, that doesn't mean they have efficacy.

Placebos are considered to have STRONG efficacy.

http://www.livescience.com/42430-placebo-effect-half-of-drug-efficacy.html

Placebo's often have efficacy over doing nothing at all. Whether or not a drug or treatment is considered efficacious is the response compared to that of the placebo.

We do not say "Oh Something must be wrong with Hillary" because Trump says 'crooked' Hillary. Guy's an idiot. Look at all the anti-Trump protesters. People are not conned by Trump they are insulted and embarrassed by him. Trump will not win in a landslide and is not some hypnotic speaker. He is a bully with enough security to talk over people, have people removed from his presence. and have a profiteering media kow-tow to his every word. This buffoon is offensive to the max blundering through life. Surviving because he was born into money. This "expert" has got his head up his ass to make such ridiculous claims. Trump's supporters have been grown by the socipathic republican tea party but they are a small part of America who could be persuaded by a chimp. Next he'll make the same claims about Palin and Louie Gohmert or Romney who were all just as repulsive. Sorry but Trump tv just don't fly around here.

Adams' idea is Trump isn't the absolute moron that he appears and is instead a "master wizard" who "engineers" "linguistic kill shots" which obliterate his political opponents with "hypnotic techniques".

So what did he "engineer" to take down HRC?

"Major security risk"

Brilliant!

privilege and dominance again.

The "good old days" were the days of common, everyday, institutionally validated violence against women, "homos" or any minorities. For centuries that everyday violence didn't even have a name or description. For more than half the population, that life was the everyday normal for an America that projected itself as "great."

Dictators weave that collective dream while "branding" the opposition, for example, "corrupt Hillary," "crazy Bernie" and "losers" as the cornerstone of those old days.

Oh well.

mastery of hypnotic speech.

This was from last last October.

I hope you realize that "hypnosis" can't be distinguished from placebo. It's nothing but a carnival show. As soon as this guy Adams describes himself seriously as a "trained hypnotist," you can summarily dismiss anything else he has to say.

On the other hand, what he says here has nothing to do with "hypnosis" but, rather, Trump's flippant use of adjectives and catch phrases. That's nothing special in itself. And, if anything, it will be his undoing and not cause the fruition of this crazy guy's "prediction" that Trump is going to win the general election.

which in turn can affect the body.

same speech over and over but ... but ...

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there is nothing vague about Bernie's proposals, wherein Trump just allows his audience to fill in the gaps with their own aspirations.

I think it was Mahers way to get people to not blow off this election. And it worked.

which is something that Hillary lacks. Its one of the reasons why the Smirking Chimp kept the election close in 2000. Trump is going to re-energize the Republican base with his style of bigotry and hate. He makes for a dangerous candidate and one who can win the Presidency on technique alone.

He turns my stomach. I can't even watch him for a couple of minutes.

Stupidity can only hypnotize the stupid, and those are the people who are getting hypnotized. Unfortunately, the American voters have proven time and time again to be extremely stupid.

Elections in the USA are treated like a sports contest where some people wear one team's shirt and the other group the other team's shirt..."The Republican Base" and the "Democratic Base" is just a group of fanatics who can't think for themselves and will vote for anyone who claims the nomination in their particular party.

An example, the USA has a chance to vote for real change, this is a man who has a proven record, who has supported minorities all his political career, who understands that the USA IS NOT the greatest country in the history of the World and needs a lot of fixing, starting with its citizens whose majority embraces ignorance and bad manners, a man who understands the rights of its citizens and what government is supposed to do for them, and yet, they want to vote for the two people who will not deliver any of what is rightful theirs.

The fantasy that the government is not supposed to give its people education, health care, and other social programs, and to accept that proves high levels of ignorance. Don't people realize they pay for all this with taxes?

Sanders should be a no brainer choice for USA citizens, but no...they will make the wrong decisions once again because the "team" must win, who cares about the consequences.

I don't dislike HRC, but she has a lot of baggage and she will no change anything because she does not believe in changing anything, she likes the status quo, she has lived all her life under that paradigm, and whether she wins or not, things will go as usual with the bickering in congress and the senate, people will continue to vote for bad people like the one in Flint, Kansas, etc. and God forbid, Trump.

Anyway, stop believing that Trump has a "hypnotic power", he does not, the USA citizens were hypnotized long ago by TV, Monday Football, McDonald's, etc.

Trump's persuasive strengths does Bernie no service.

Not at all, but this sudden panic that I see on this post and others regarding Trump's "magical hypnotic powers of perception" that seems to have rattled so many people should be dismissed. The empty minded people will like what Trump says, but I don't see that many empty minded people in DU, so stop the panic, people will see what he really is, and Bernie, or HRC for that matter, will be ready for him when the time comes. In the mean time, all we can do is try to open people's eyes.

Yes, know thy enemy, could not agree with you more.

Many of the same techniques are used in sales and marketing.

I didn't post the OP so much for D.U. but for the broader Internet and beyond community's awareness via the ripple effect.

Bern 's up n smoke

2. This OP is about Trump, regardless of which candidate opposes him.

OP abt Trump ,, my comment abt all the GOP style attacks on the presumptive Democratic Nominee by people wandering around lost!

There is good hypnosis, which helps people in innumerable ways, and bad hypnosis, which helps only Trump.

He gets them in the trance, all the critical faculties off, and speaks directly to that persuasive part of the brain, the "subconscious" hypnotists call it, to seed in his "suggestions." Hypnotists say the subconscious has the mind of a 9-year old, so Trump uses a child's language to speak to that part of the subconscious that is most suggestive. He uses nasty labels on his opponents to get his audience to feel disgust.

He reframes everything he says to please whoever he is talking to. And when people ask for clarification, he reframes again, and people get drawn in because he knows exactly how to go for the subconscious.

He uses lots of hypnotic, persuasion techniques. He does have a certain mastery over them, no doubt.

but it literally doesn't care if it takes you to the airport or into the side of a mountain.

It's the conscious mind that make value or moral judgments.

Because you have taught it to do things that way, your conscious mind telling you it's a pleasure you want to partake in. The first role of the subconscious is to protect you, but it also wants to make you happy.

she was having a panic attack, couldn't drive and stopped at a convenience store, called an ambulance to take her to the hospital.

When I got to the hospital the nurses took her to a waiting room for the doctor to check her out.

She was claustrophobic and felt the walls were closing in on her, she kept leaving the waiting room to walk just outside the hospital doors, the nurse came out and was getting frustrated and told her to go back in.

I was in the waiting room with her but she was exceptionally nervous so I told her to lay on her back, close her eyes, take deep breaths, visualize walking on the beach, feeling the white sand between her toes, seeing the blue green ocean, hearing the seagulls flying overhead.

I kept this up for about ten minutes, she became much more relaxed and that's what we were doing when the doctor finally got there.

I had learned these mediation techniques in the early 80s when I used them on myself with the aid of some cassettes that I purchased and they definitely worked on me.

Hats off to you for helping her out that time. Once I got her into a relaxed state with the guided breathing and the relaxation suggestions, I would offer her, as a special treat, a post-hypnotic suggestion as an anchor that would trigger her back to that much more relaxed state on the beach (or wherever she is most relaxed and safe) every time she feels another panic attack coming on.

And we can completely remove that claustrophobia too. We can take her back to when she first felt it and change the experience in her memory, and for her subconscious, so that she will never experience walls closing in on her again. In fact it might make her laugh that she had ever suffered from claustrophobia to begin with.

The mind is a powerful thing. Once people know that, they are willing to let you show them how.

I will present that suggestion to her.

Peace to you.

If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands.



In the photo above, Richard Helms and Richard Nixon go over "The Bay of Pigs Thing" and other secret affairs. Mr. Helms personally attended to the destruction of the most sensitive MK/ULTRA files, rather than turn "the Family Jewels" over to the Pike and Church committees in Congress.

Thanks for the addition, Octafish.

That Korporal Konica fellow sure shows up whenever a giant chicken toe at the Pentagon gets stepped on, right as rain.

We've seen a lot of the type over the last 15 years on DU, one of the few places left IN THE WORLD where people can discuss Democracy and be heard AROUND THE WORLD.

short key word targeting slogans over and over again, basically an advertising technique. Kind of psychops stuff.

During the Republican debates, some of Trump’s opponents used his kind of insults to fight against him, but they all failed.

But this nickname stuff, described by Scott Adams, might just be what we need to use against Trump. How can we get everyone to call him “Dangerous Donald”?

Imagine an ad in which we are given quotes that illustrate how dangerous Donald Trump is for our country and the world. After each quote is repeated, “That’s why we call him Dangerous Donald”. At the end of a series of four or five quotes simply state, “Donald Trump is dangerous for our country and the world. He must not be allowed to become President of the United States”.

Wouldn’t it be great if every time Donald Trump says something out of line we could get everyone to think, “Dangerous Donald”?

Repugs have always done this. They have a few phrases/names they repeat ad nauseam. Their base laps it up, repeating and repeating.

Sore Loserman
Flip-Flopper
Drill Baby Drill
USA! USA! USA!

It works much better on their side b/c they're more like sheep, they're simple. Our people aren't as zombie-like. We think for ourselves more, and we don't get down in the mud b/c we're kinder...we don't like the ugly (same reason hate radio/tv doesn't work from the left, IMO). Sometimes I'm jealous at how well it works on their side. More often I'm disgusted at how moronic they are, and am glad that we're above that.

Point is, I don't think it's anything new. They always do the nicknames, repeating simple phrases, etc...

sometimes is like a war between the klingons and vulcan......
we have the facts and logic and they have the emotion and passion.

if passion drives the turnout as i feel it does....we are in trouble