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Yes, Hillary Clinton's Email Server Jeopardized U.S. National Security (Original Post) Playinghardball Jun 2016 OP
And no one gives a s*&^ SmittynMo Jun 2016 #1
if this were a pug you would. thanks for the insight into you roguevalley Jun 2016 #20
You get it, right? SmittynMo Jun 2016 #24
What a relief to finally have an authoritative account. Nitram Jun 2016 #2
Give it up. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #3
This H A Goodman? ToxMarz Jun 2016 #4
You hush yo mouth. That's not part of the narrative. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #17
Speaking of narrative Fairgo Jun 2016 #22
Hyperbole much? Amimnoch Jun 2016 #23
You are the one with the dead body of a democratic candidate on your op Fairgo Jun 2016 #25
Is Bernie Sanders dead? Amimnoch Jun 2016 #26
But your "satire" is not about the movie Fairgo Jun 2016 #27
Those that don't like the primary, don't like democracy. Not surprised that corporate Democrats rhett o rick Jun 2016 #28
Psst.. The primary.. It's almost over. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #29
Actually the election is very close. Your millions of popular votes isnt accurate rhett o rick Jun 2016 #30
No, it's not close. Millions is accurate by all given counts. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #31
Secrets? Lamonte Jun 2016 #5
So it is just fine to let it all hang out? At least some of the jwirr Jun 2016 #7
Oh then it's okay to ignore security protocol. Afraid not. nt thereismore Jun 2016 #10
Obama really, really, REALLY cares! Maedhros Jun 2016 #11
*Greatest President ever, right? nt MadDAsHell Jun 2016 #16
Lol. "I cannot recall a single secret we have ever kept." JBoy Jun 2016 #14
H.A. Goodman is the nasty piece of work who endorsed RAND PAUL for President 2016, pnwmom Jun 2016 #6
Ironic coming from Brock worshippers whose candidate "evolved" n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #8
Goodman's "evolution" took place over a few months. He's a fraud. pnwmom Jun 2016 #9
He's a paid troll Cryptoad Jun 2016 #13
Ohhhh NO,,, EMAILS,,,,, Oh the horror of it all!,,Drink! Cryptoad Jun 2016 #12
If this is Goodman, I won't watch. This guy thereismore Jun 2016 #15
A bunch of overstated words used to hide that no offending email is found. Festivito Jun 2016 #18
Not true....nt asuhornets Jun 2016 #19
Stay tuned for Goodman's next YouTube masterpiece: Hillary's server jeopardized peace on Earth. beastie boy Jun 2016 #21
K & R. So dangerous for the Dem. Party and the country.. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #32

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
24. You get it, right?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:23 PM
Jun 2016

It is quite sad for all of us that no one is going to do anything about this. Her candidacy should have been over, but nooooooo, she just keeps on lying and moving forward. I'm quite saddened for all of us that this is the status quo. Just more establishment politics again!!!!

Nitram

(22,801 posts)
2. What a relief to finally have an authoritative account.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:59 PM
Jun 2016

I had no idea this guy was so well-connected. I hope the FBI listens up!

ToxMarz

(2,167 posts)
4. This H A Goodman?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jun 2016

Prior to Sanders jumping into the ring, H.A. was madly in love with libertarian government-hating, social services-slashing Republican Sen. Rand Paul.

In fact it was only two weeks before his heart belonged to Bernie that he wrote: “I’m a Liberal Democrat. I’m Voting for Rand Paul in 2016. Here Is Why.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/ultimate-bernie-bro-meet-the-hillary-hating-rand-fan-who-experienced-the-bern-and-fell-in-love/

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
17. You hush yo mouth. That's not part of the narrative.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jun 2016


About 1/4 of the way through I started yawning and had something more interesting to look at.

Nice to see Sanders is bringing the libertarians into the fold now though. I guess.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
22. Speaking of narrative
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:48 PM
Jun 2016

I see two DNC stalwarts holding up Bernie's dead body. Why the death threat? Do you think that is funny, or are you into stochastic terrorism and the desecration of the dead? This is not kosher...in more ways than one.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
23. Hyperbole much?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:11 PM
Jun 2016

Perhaps you should look up the meanings of "satire" and "metaphor". Might help you a bit.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
26. Is Bernie Sanders dead?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:54 AM
Jun 2016

First clue for you. Bernie is not a dead person. At all. He's alive and doing quite well according to his physician.

Is the movie referenced about terrorism? Nope.
Is the movie referenced one about murder? Nope.
Is the movie referenced even about Drama, or malice of any type? Nope.

The movie is a piece on social satire, and a comedy.. Not unlike his campaign.

I don't know if you are just being willfully obtuse and arguing argumentum ad absurdum, or really being genuine in your belief that my sig is calling for the death of Senator Sanders.. I do like to give people the benefit of the doubt though, so I'll spell it out for you: It is intended solely as a satyrical piece and a metaphor for his "dead" campaign.

Please rest easier at night knowing I have absolutely no desire at all to see Senator Sanders die. I have no desire to see actual harm happen to him or his family. I do eagerly desire to see this primary season end.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
27. But your "satire" is not about the movie
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:24 AM
Jun 2016

It's about the image. Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton holding up a dead Bernie Sanders. It's not clever, it's not satire, it's puerile, shallow, product of a sophomoric mind. Calling out "joking" can't hide your death metaphor. If you don't want to be associate with the contemptible, don't advertise it.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
28. Those that don't like the primary, don't like democracy. Not surprised that corporate Democrats
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jun 2016

don't like democracy. The Clinton supporters didn't ever want a primary contest. Why? Because they knew it would force out the fact that Clinton doesn't have solid positions on any of the issues. Where is she on min wage? or fracking or the TPP. To the Corp-Democrats it's all about winning, ridicule, and mocking. So like the school yard. Hide behind the biggest bully (big money) and mock the victims.

There are two sides to this class war. The Progressive Side wants to help the 2.5 million homeless American children and the 16 million American children living in poverty, and the Corporate Side thinks that Goldman-Sachs profits are important.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
29. Psst.. The primary.. It's almost over.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jun 2016

I know.. I know.. It would be nice if you could rewrite the rules and all that, but we're days away from the last states voting, and only a few weeks away from the convention. That it's almost over isn't a matter of "liking democracy" or not.. It's simple math my mate.

Could this most interesting accusation about not loving Democracy be coming from the same side that is looking to contest despite losing the election by millions of popular votes, and by hundreds of pledged delegates? Considering your candidates only path is to disenfranchise the majority of voter's.. What's that word again? Oh yeah, it's called hypocrisy.

(Btw.. I'm still waiting for you to put a link where your words or.. You got a single link to a single time you've condemned either Edwards, or Kerry during their runs?)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
30. Actually the election is very close. Your millions of popular votes isnt accurate
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:20 PM
Jun 2016

and doesn't count anyway. The contest had a lot of shenanigans all happening to the Sanders side. I am guessing you don't care how you win as long as you win. That's why you chose to side with the Rich people. Afraid to fight for those suffering among us but choosing to fight for more corporate profits.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
31. No, it's not close. Millions is accurate by all given counts.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:47 AM
Jun 2016

That you don't like it or agree with it is not relevant. It is by millions. Even considering the lack of accuracy in caucus states it still isn't close.

Interesting how you brush off the popular vote, yet just months ago was screaming about closed primaries not being democratic. I guess popular vote only counts for you when it benefits the less popular candidate?

Shenanigans? Which ones are you talking about? The manufactured ones by the campaign you support, or the ones manufactured by Repbulicans against Democrats? If you're referring to the cute imagined ones.. You're right, i don't give a crap about thm. If your talking about the Republican created voter disenfranchisement such as happened in Arizona and New York? Yes, I care very much about those. I can point out the posts where I was in solidarity with the Sanders people on this board calling for investigation and results. (Speaking of pointint out posts, you found a single one of yours yet where you condemned Kerry or Edwards during their runs for POTUS post Iraq vote? Yeah.. Thought not). The fact that the Sanders franchise tries to lay claim to those voters without a shred of evidence that either had any effect on the final tally.. Well I'll chalk that into the same category as the cute imagined ones. That every time there is an issue with elections your side feels that they are entitled to claiming all of the non-existant votes that didn't happen.. Laughable and downright pitiable.

I side with experience, proven capability, and the candidate that I feel will do the most as POTUS with the upcoming congress. You say I side with rich people.. I say you side with incompetency, and bloviated lies along with a huge batch of false promises that your candidate could never accomplish.

As to your last statement. I'm bold enough to fight against the rock star, cult of personality and against the zenophobic racist for the candidate that will actually do the most of the available candidates for those that are suffering among us. But kudos for the attempt at the strawman.

Lamonte

(85 posts)
5. Secrets?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jun 2016

Does anyone really believe the enemies have not read every message of any kind sent in ant so called secure method. I cannot recall a single secret we have ever kept. Israel fooled the entire world when the sold every country a bit of software that informs countries what other countries are doing. Israel also had a trapdoor that allowed them to observe all the fish that bought the software. Here is the book. http://www.amazon.com/Robert-Maxwell-Israels-Superspy-Murder/dp/0786710780/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464993375&sr=8-1-fkmr2&keywords=israel+super+spy+maxwell

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
7. So it is just fine to let it all hang out? At least some of the
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:44 PM
Jun 2016

government try to keep things secret when necessary.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
11. Obama really, really, REALLY cares!
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jun 2016

He's used the Espionage Act more than every other President combined to prosecute whistle blowers and leakers. For example, Thomas Drake:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/leaks-and-the-law-the-story-of-thomas-drake-14796786/?no-ist

Thomas A. Drake was a senior executive at the National Security Agency for seven years. When his efforts to alert his superiors and Congress to what he saw as illegal activities, waste and mismanagement at the NSA led nowhere, he decided to take his allegations to the press. Although he was cautious—using encrypted e-mail to communicate with a reporter—his leak was discovered. Last year the government indicted Drake under the Espionage Act. If convicted, he would have faced up to 35 years in prison.


The information Drake had in his possession was encrypted - unlike that on Hillary's server - and was retroactively classified.

The Drake case loomed as the biggest leak prosecution since the trial of Daniel Ellsberg four decades ago. The indictment against him included not only five counts of violating the Espionage Act, but also one charge of obstruction of justice and four counts of making false statements to the FBI while he was under investigation.


Obama's Justice Department didn't just throw the book at Drake, they threw the whole fucking law library.

And you're trying to peddle the rank, festering bullshit that "nobody cares" about information security? How stupid do you think people are?




JBoy

(8,021 posts)
14. Lol. "I cannot recall a single secret we have ever kept."
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jun 2016

Still trying to work out the Venn diagram for that statement.

If a secret was kept, you wouldn't even be aware of it unless you were privy to it in the first place.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
6. H.A. Goodman is the nasty piece of work who endorsed RAND PAUL for President 2016,
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:44 PM
Jun 2016

and has been doing his best to attack Hillary though Bernie.

No real progressive would ever endorse Rand Paul, so he's a total fraud.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
9. Goodman's "evolution" took place over a few months. He's a fraud.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jun 2016

And I've never posted a pro-Brock OP.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
12. Ohhhh NO,,, EMAILS,,,,, Oh the horror of it all!,,Drink!
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jun 2016

can u post the one u posted last week abt HRC killing little girls in Honduras? that speaks volumes on ur Bull Shit

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
15. If this is Goodman, I won't watch. This guy
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:15 PM
Jun 2016

strikes me as thinking too highly of himself. A kind of a zealot. Not objective. The headline is correct, I just don't need his argumentation.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
18. A bunch of overstated words used to hide that no offending email is found.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jun 2016

Long for the sake of browbeating listeners into keeping their opinion.

I would like a DU rule saying that all email stories must begin with: "No evidence of offending email, (title)."

beastie boy

(9,345 posts)
21. Stay tuned for Goodman's next YouTube masterpiece: Hillary's server jeopardized peace on Earth.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jun 2016

Expect more unprecedented brilliance in presenting evidence and drawing conclusions.

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