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Raw Bodycam Video Shows Knife-Wielding Man Shot By Ohio Policeman (Original Post) DreamSmoker Aug 2016 OP
Sad to see the cops escalate the level of violence scscholar Aug 2016 #1
Did you watch the same video I did where they continued to back off for several minutes while uppityperson Aug 2016 #3
There's even a Wikipedia page on that: scscholar Aug 2016 #4
Repeatedly walking up to police while yelling "kill me" and waving a knife uppityperson Aug 2016 #5
Doesn't seem like something that should get the death penalty scscholar Aug 2016 #6
I very much agree. He was trying to provoke them, they kept backing away and didn't kill him. uppityperson Aug 2016 #7
You're right SCantiGOP Aug 2016 #9
The police did a good job... SkyDaddy7 Aug 2016 #17
Wow. That was a really good job of backing up, trying to contain him. He was trying to suicide uppityperson Aug 2016 #2
I was thinking that, awoke_in_2003 Aug 2016 #14
Great job in Iraq, perhaps Somalia? Not here. How about "Sick man denied mental healt jtuck004 Aug 2016 #8
Is there a way to REC a down thread comment? rgbecker Aug 2016 #10
What should the cop have done. Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #12
It might not have happened if we still had our mental health facilities in place - but some make jtuck004 Aug 2016 #15
Thought most deparments had tazers etc. by now. rgbecker Aug 2016 #11
They do, and this guy was tazed at the end of the video before being arrested. Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #13
Body cam worked. Now there is no question of what happened. Midnight Writer Aug 2016 #16
 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
1. Sad to see the cops escalate the level of violence
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:19 PM
Aug 2016

Of course when all you have is a hammer, everything is a nail.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
3. Did you watch the same video I did where they continued to back off for several minutes while
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:21 PM
Aug 2016

the man trying to suicide himself pressed forward?

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
5. Repeatedly walking up to police while yelling "kill me" and waving a knife
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:44 PM
Aug 2016

seems rather like he was trying to provoke them to kill him. What does it seem like to you?

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
6. Doesn't seem like something that should get the death penalty
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:49 PM
Aug 2016

It's a mental illness. It isn't a court-ordered death sentence.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
7. I very much agree. He was trying to provoke them, they kept backing away and didn't kill him.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:51 PM
Aug 2016

He was trying, they wouldn't accommodate him. I hope he gets the help he needs.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
17. The police did a good job...
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 06:19 AM
Aug 2016

I'm a extremely harsh critic of the police & how they act in a lot of cases especially when it comes to how they treat minorities but in this case they did a good job & the man lived. Hopefully he will get some help. Not every police shooting is unwarranted & in this case he did not unload his weapon in the guy despite the fact he kept coming at him.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
2. Wow. That was a really good job of backing up, trying to contain him. He was trying to suicide
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:20 PM
Aug 2016

by cop and they wouldn't. The control they had of not killing him was as it should be and quite a task.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
8. Great job in Iraq, perhaps Somalia? Not here. How about "Sick man denied mental healt
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 08:39 PM
Aug 2016

Sick man denied mental health services, shot by militarized police instead of treatment.

Good job? What you were applauding was a turkey shoot. Should never have happened.

But people prefer a show, as long as they think they are above such a thing.


Cost of not caring: Nowhere to go:

THE FINANCIAL AND HUMAN TOLL FOR NEGLECTING THE MENTALLY ILL.

Liz Szabo, USA TODAY

More than half a million Americans with serious mental illness are falling through the cracks of a system in tatters, a USA TODAY special report shows.

The mentally ill who have nowhere to go and find little sympathy from those around them often land hard in emergency rooms, county jails and city streets. The lucky ones find homes with family. The unlucky ones show up in the morgue.

"We have replaced the hospital bed with the jail cell, the homeless shelter and the coffin," says Rep. Tim Murphy, R-Pa., a child psychologist leading an effort to remodel the mental health system. "How is that compassionate?"

States looking to save money have pared away both the community mental health services designed to keep people healthy, as well as the hospital care needed to help them heal after a crisis.
...


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/12/mental-health-system-crisis/7746535/

rgbecker

(4,832 posts)
10. Is there a way to REC a down thread comment?
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:54 PM
Aug 2016

You have identified the issue as clearly as possible. Cops are dealing with it daily and the results are unsurprisingly bad.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
12. What should the cop have done.
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 09:59 PM
Aug 2016

The guy came at him with a knife. He fired one shot. If he did nothing the cop might be dead.

A few minutes later more cops came, and tazed him, then took him to the hospital. I don't see the problem?

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
15. It might not have happened if we still had our mental health facilities in place - but some make
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 10:38 PM
Aug 2016

more money from jailing and murdering the population. Fixing them and providing relief is considered overhead, and is thus to be avoided.

Within that context he did what he was paid to do. Just like many others up and down the boulevard.


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