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sagetea

(1,372 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:37 PM Feb 2017

Man points camera at ice - then captures the unimaginable on film

In November 2016, the Arctic was 20 degrees warmer than average, which is much warmer than even research models had predicted.

Unfortunately, we're faced with disaster if we don't zero our global greenhouse emissions by 2070. But on the positive side, we still have a chance to make that happen.






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Man points camera at ice - then captures the unimaginable on film (Original Post) sagetea Feb 2017 OP
At 1:51 it looks like some giant whale-like animal, black in color, is breaking thru. Ligyron Feb 2017 #1
Your the first person to agree with me that it's a whale. CrispyQ Feb 2017 #10
Whale SCVDem Feb 2017 #31
That's the first thing I thought, too. A whale. nt Laffy Kat Feb 2017 #29
It sure doesn't look like ice, that's for sure. Ligyron Feb 2017 #30
A whale the size of Manhattan. Xipe Totec Feb 2017 #33
That's what I thought too malaise Feb 2017 #34
Any geological findings of this ever happening before? The Wielding Truth Feb 2017 #2
Uhhh, don't think so... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #15
I remember this, was an amazing event... AuntPatsy Feb 2017 #3
Awesome filming... 3Stones Feb 2017 #4
How to drive the message home through the thick skulls of the RWNJ's lambchopp59 Feb 2017 #5
Show them and their "wealth" managers in one of those Manhattan offices erronis Feb 2017 #6
I Watched SCVDem Feb 2017 #32
Somewhere sea levels are rising. Scary and magnificent! mfcorey1 Feb 2017 #7
Not from this event. This was ice on water. Sea level will rise when the ice on land LiberalArkie Feb 2017 #26
I would guess that these huge masses of ice, resting on water erronis Feb 2017 #35
It does in some ways. From what I have read it allows the warmer ocean water LiberalArkie Feb 2017 #39
Thanks! mfcorey1 Feb 2017 #37
If it's a glacier, it -is- on land. N77VG Feb 2017 #45
I think it is sea ice. LiberalArkie Feb 2017 #47
A glacier is, by definition, a 'river' of ice that flows very slowly to the sea. N77VG Feb 2017 #49
Weak losers! Trump likes strong glaciers that don't retreat IronLionZion Feb 2017 #8
Or 64 degrees in Detroit! angstlessk Feb 2017 #9
It's going to be a brutal summer IronLionZion Feb 2017 #13
Yes, bugs galore and hot hot hot angstlessk Feb 2017 #14
80 deg here in the mountains in Central Arkansas LiberalArkie Feb 2017 #25
81 yesterday in Pensacola, FL. 😳 Grammy23 Feb 2017 #40
SAD! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2017 #11
That's yuuge OxQQme Feb 2017 #12
Things to know about ice OxQQme Feb 2017 #16
Upsetting. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #17
Everytime I've seen that video defacto7 Feb 2017 #18
Must be fake news since climate change is a myth created by the Chinese. Video probably Amaryllis Feb 2017 #19
It's like watching the birth and death of continents Hekate Feb 2017 #20
2070? Seriously? The Sand Reckoner Feb 2017 #21
Good points. LuckyLib Feb 2017 #22
Exactly... paleotn Feb 2017 #28
Yes, I wish these weren't good points The Sand Reckoner Feb 2017 #36
TSR, thumbs up. Duppers Feb 2017 #38
I believe you. If only we'd started confronting overpopulation back then too. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #41
Yep, we should still do what we can The Sand Reckoner Feb 2017 #44
..... BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #46
Nothing to see here....move along. Climate change is just a big liberal myth............ Bengus81 Feb 2017 #23
Yep. Only a theory. Like evolution N77VG Feb 2017 #48
That was stunning. krispos42 Feb 2017 #24
Unreal. paleotn Feb 2017 #27
Beautiful and scary at the same time Catherine Vincent Feb 2017 #42
Awesome! Nitram Feb 2017 #43
Stunning. dalton99a Feb 2017 #50
Wow! That was incredible - and sure makes the point! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2017 #51
Oh my goodness Sage. That is horrifying, and so depressing. Maru Kitteh Feb 2017 #52
That is scary as hell, which is why I'll never understand how Greens who claim to care about the.... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2017 #53

Ligyron

(7,637 posts)
1. At 1:51 it looks like some giant whale-like animal, black in color, is breaking thru.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:52 PM
Feb 2017

Even has an eye in the front. Thought it was a sub for while there...

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
5. How to drive the message home through the thick skulls of the RWNJ's
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:01 PM
Feb 2017

of the dire consequences of their heros chanting "drill, baby drill". When Fox Noise has convinced them that data from every accredited university study in the entire world is all "left wing propaganda"... it's long past time for some serious wake up calls, some serious cult deprogramming.

erronis

(15,313 posts)
6. Show them and their "wealth" managers in one of those Manhattan offices
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:13 PM
Feb 2017

Being toppled into the sea, never to be heard from again.

Can we hope for Drump in his tower? Or at least in his FL playpen when the tsunami hits?

LiberalArkie

(15,722 posts)
26. Not from this event. This was ice on water. Sea level will rise when the ice on land
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 07:43 PM
Feb 2017

slides off into the ocean. Probably soon.

erronis

(15,313 posts)
35. I would guess that these huge masses of ice, resting on water
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 09:43 PM
Feb 2017

Are plugging up the masses of ice behind them, resting on land. But just a very uneducated guess.

LiberalArkie

(15,722 posts)
39. It does in some ways. From what I have read it allows the warmer ocean water
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 09:55 AM
Feb 2017

to seep under the ice on land and start warming it that way. That has been happening in Greenland I believe.

 

N77VG

(65 posts)
49. A glacier is, by definition, a 'river' of ice that flows very slowly to the sea.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 05:54 PM
Feb 2017

Last edited Mon Feb 20, 2017, 07:03 PM - Edit history (2)

The reason it DOES 'calve' is that its leading edge is unsupported by solid ground so its weight causes it to break off.
I looked at the youtube directly, it was actually 9 years ago on the west coast of Greenland.

It's only sea ice after it breaks off the 'tongue' of the glacier, and turns into icebergs.

>>>>
I may be mistaken here, this particular phenomenon is technically called an "icefjord" (fiord of ice) which seems to be an intermediate between a 'regular' fiord and a glacier....the glacier is obviously at the very 'top' and is apparently the boundary between glacier and sea. It's a little confusing because the video doesn't tell us exactly where it was made. If the ice in the video has already fallen
into the water, it is floating (or maybe stuck to the bottom as the wiki article suggests, in which case it is displacing the volume
rather than the mass ('weight') of the water over it).


IronLionZion

(45,472 posts)
8. Weak losers! Trump likes strong glaciers that don't retreat
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:47 PM
Feb 2017

It's just weather. There's no other reason why it's 69 degrees in February in DC right now. Liberals are so biased with this fake news video about the glacier. You can clearly see immigrants coming here and ruining that glacier if you weren't so liberal.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
18. Everytime I've seen that video
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:29 PM
Feb 2017

I am just as awestruck as the first. A powerful image. A powerful message.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
19. Must be fake news since climate change is a myth created by the Chinese. Video probably
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:32 PM
Feb 2017

created with CGI. Wait for the tweet.

 

The Sand Reckoner

(194 posts)
21. 2070? Seriously?
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:43 PM
Feb 2017

If greenhouse gas levels keep increasing every year for the next 50, we'll be in disaster mode long before then.

The grim fact is that we are probably already past critical tipping points, with no hope of reversing things before we careen past even worse tipping points. Saying that "if every nation comes together NOW, we can stop this" is just fantasy. Nothing that any politician or any nation can do in reality will have any effect other than to slow the rate of increase of greenhouse gas levels. There is no way we can even stop the increase in human release of greenhouse gases in less than 10-15 years, and it will be even longer before it can be reduced back to a safe level. And that doesn't even take into account natural release from methane sources and others, that may render any human efforts useless anyway.

Our last real chance to prevent global warming disaster was in 1980. If this country had re-elected Carter, we might have had a chance to chart a sane, sensible course on energy policy and fossil fuel use, but electing Reagan pretty much fucked us for the long term, even though few if any people realized it at the time.

 

The Sand Reckoner

(194 posts)
36. Yes, I wish these weren't good points
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 09:45 PM
Feb 2017

but we need to prepare for bad situations. The problem is, the best way to do that isn't entirely clear, especially when our government is under the complete control of people who deny that the problem even exists.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
41. I believe you. If only we'd started confronting overpopulation back then too.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 11:39 AM
Feb 2017

I can't bring myself to watch the vid....just too upsetting.


Plant trees, people, lots and lots of trees.

And don't breed.


 

The Sand Reckoner

(194 posts)
44. Yep, we should still do what we can
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 03:29 PM
Feb 2017

To lessen the impact or slow its onset, but we shouldn't delude ourselves that it's going to be anything less than bad.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
24. That was stunning.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 07:20 PM
Feb 2017

Simply stunning.

The scale was very difficult to sense, but to see mountains of snow fall over and flow like water in the rapids of some immense river... wow.

It was so fluid I wasn't sure if I was looking at liquid or solid.



Stunning.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
27. Unreal.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 07:49 PM
Feb 2017

NYC, I suggest you start building your version of the Thames Barrier like right now! Lets hope you don't needed before it's finished.

Nitram

(22,840 posts)
43. Awesome!
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 01:13 PM
Feb 2017

Another 70-degree day expected here in Charlottesville Va tomorrow. In the middle of February? Better than digging the snow out of my derived, but bodes ill for the future.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
52. Oh my goodness Sage. That is horrifying, and so depressing.
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 04:31 PM
Feb 2017

All I can think of is my grandbaby.

What are we doing? What have we done?




Tarheel_Dem

(31,235 posts)
53. That is scary as hell, which is why I'll never understand how Greens who claim to care about the....
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 07:05 PM
Feb 2017

earth, consistently lodge protest votes against the people who attempt to reverse this kind of crap.

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