I thought he was taking the fight to the Donald.
He is appearing wimpy IMO.

We need a party that caters to people, and not the 1%. If the Democratic Party keeps trying to cater to corporations to get funding, they will lose. We will lose on funding but we can win on numbers--we need to be the party of the people and be seen as the people's party, not a Republican Lite party.

Bernie, HRC, O'Malley all said they would nominated anti-citizens United judges.

No Republican said anything like that.

You may not be aware that the Citizens United case was over a dark money "documentary" that smeared Hillary Clinton.

Or if Kennedy steps down in July after the impeachment, President HRC can bring back Garland. Or instead a real liberal who has actually worked in criminal defense not just prosecution -- in the mold of Thurgood Marshall.

They deserve to retire, but Ginsberg is definitely putting the country first by staying on.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

As a 10-year veteran of this place, I feel obligated to warn you that you can have posts removed and even be banned from DU if you say ANYTHING that even shines the tiniest bit of positive light on a politician who does not sport a (D) next to their name. And suggesting that the (Ds) are Right Lite? Now you're just ASKING for trouble!. Take it from someone who's tried to float objective reasoning here - choppy waters ahead!

I always vote for the Democratic Party but I don't like all the infighting seen here. I don't think that Democrats should court corporate funding, it not only looks bad but it affects the party's positions. Without financial input from corporations, maybe we could have had a public option in the original Affordable Care Act?

pains of the working class? - come on man! - I choose to move forward, with new eyes on the future..as a retired working class gal...talk about the issues, healthcare, social security, women's issues, environment (a positive message from Earth Day) and all the people who participated from around the world....

Sanders is a labor issue guy. Happy he's doing that.

Yes! BS can only talk of "failure".. always haranguing the Democratic Party.

Calls "aggressively antl-cholce" Mello a "progressive" and he wouldn't endorse a real Progressive Jon Ossoff on Election day in Georgia..

Said "he isn't prepared to back Democrats just because of a party label"

Link to tweet

I wasn't talking to you.

Obsess much? Makes you seem like a bot.

He's not the leader of the Dem Party. It's great if he puts his wt behind a candidate, but I'm not sure it's reasonable to expect him to go to the mat for every Democratic candidate. He's not a Dem., and in conservative areas, his endorsement may actually be harmful to the candidate.

"popular" he is when he couldn't even be bothered to try to UNTIE on the THE UNITY TOUR.

Symome Sanders:.. "In retrospect, she said, Maybe Bernie Sanders isnt the guy for the unity tour."

Why Bernie Sanders’s Unity Tour Failed

snip//

The independent senator hit the road with Democratic national chairman Tom Perez—and highlighted everything that's tearing the party apart.

https://newrepublic.com/article/142152/bernie-sanderss-unity-tour-failed

The next Unity Tour.. Send People on it who Want to Unify!

Well said.

Mahalo

to those failures. I'm with him 100%. I'm also 100% behind social justice for all. The two are not mutually exclusive and never have been.

They seem to be concerned about their economic prospects as much as, if not more than, anything else? They don't buy into either of the two parties because of legalized corruption that our political and electoral systems have made so blatantly obvious. Hell, they don't buy into national elections as it is now!

Democracy is at stake because of "pains of the working class". Bernie's needle isn't stuck so much as it's a problem that he began speaking out about 35 years ago and has only gotten worse over those 35 years. He's not the only one who noticed or continues to be deeply concerned about this problem. This is about democracy in the end.

Sanders is hardly the only one to say this.

Reich was a very mainstream Clinton Democrat. Now he believes liberal donors are ruining the Democratic party. And he believes it needs to become more populist.

http://inthesetimes.com/article/19769/robert-reichs-plan-to-fix-the-democratic-party-sanders-populism-wall-street

That party was super-anti-Sanders during the primaries. What you got from their post was not what you thought. They just have trouble putting a coherent sentence together. Dyslexia? I have no clue. But I quickly stopped interacting with them once I realized what I was dealing with.

failing, though.. a certain politician just likes to get in front of that mic and say so as much as the corporate news will let him.

Record is absolutely horrible - why do you deny it?

Warren and Merkley come immediately to mind. I'm sure there are quite a few more if one takes the time to think about it.

He's becoming so tiresome.

You mean, like his 501(c)(4)? That he installed Jeff Weaver to run from the top down? Who courts billionaire money? He set up "Our Revolution" so that donors don't have to be identified.

I want that explained. I want to know why Bernie Sanders has this "rules for thee but not for me" philosophy.

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"unity tour".. what a joke.

Symome Sanders: "In retrospect, she said, Maybe Bernie Sanders isnt the guy for the unity tour."

Why Bernie Sanders’s Unity Tour Failed

snip//

The independent senator hit the road with Democratic national chairman Tom Perez—and highlighted everything that's tearing the party apart.

https://newrepublic.com/article/142152/bernie-sanderss-unity-tour-failed

I know we're a big tent, but we shouldn't allow the tent to be brought down on us. I think it's time to realize this is alienating a lot of people.

I'm fine with party in-fighting on issues, but when we allow criticism from the outside to narrow our agenda and ignore the base, I think it's very counterproductive.

What is the "working class" anyway? Does this term even have relevance anymore in this changed world, in which the nature of work itself has changed so dramatically? The working class of women and African Americans and Latinos has been pained for decades; it seems like we're only talking about white male factory workers here. Join the crowd, boys. Cause we're not going back to the days of isolationism and barefoot, pregnant helpmeets.

it in action. Even his own former press sec said.. maybe he wasn't the guy to send on the unity tour.

Symome Sanders:.. "In retrospect, she said, Maybe Bernie Sanders isnt the guy for the unity tour."

Why Bernie Sanders’s Unity Tour Failed

snip//

The independent senator hit the road with Democratic national chairman Tom Perez—and highlighted everything that's tearing the party apart.

https://newrepublic.com/article/142152/bernie-sanderss-unity-tour-failed

It makes me wonder if some of these posters on DU are Russian bots? They make the same tired arguments against Bernie, over and over. It seems they like the division of Democrats, which makes me question their loyalties.

Any mention is reason for an ad hominem attack. In seemingly direct defiance of the effort at coming together that Schumer, Perez and the rest of our party are trying to grow.

he has criticized the Party but not individual Democrats. I agree with his criticism of the party. We have forgotten about the working class American and left them behind in the past 25-30 years. That was a a mistake we are now paying for in terms of elected "power" relative to the GOP.

and I'll just continue to smile and say thank you.

He isn't. I even voted for him in the primary but now I regret it.

Party.

He says the D party needs to stand up to the wealthy class, and only then will "we" start to win elections. His criticism is constructive and he is identifying with the party.

Help me understand your point of view.

he's the only one who knows anything.. I got news for him, he isn't.. sitting on his high horse.. The m$m and gop love the shade.. He's devisive and he gets it wrong.. like with Jon Ossoff..

That mess he made with calling the "aggressively anti-cholce" Mello a "progressive" and not endorsing the Real Pro-choice Jon Ossoff on Election Day in Georgia..

Said "he isn't prepared to back Democrats just because of a party label"

Link to tweet

Is show his taxes and explain Tad Devine. Please and thank you.

It's as if your fingers know something that hasn't yet penetrated your brain.

Careful who you call Russian Bots some have been longstanding members,that won't tolerate this constant bashing of our party from a non member of OUR party and the enablers here.

So I have actually been here longer than one month, although don't know why that should matter to you. i have been surprised at all the Bernie bashing, and I don't think it's productive. I have noticed that in any thread that mentions Bernie, the same posters post the same anti-BS shit. It seems weird to say the least, and it makes me wonder what's going on? Bernie isn't perfect, but he has some good ideas. Why all the anger and insults?

is productive. He's going to get called out on it.

as trolls isn't appreciated. You cannot keep insulting with out expecting a response. If you can't see that then that is your preference.

And your anger and insults get you nowhere (except a lot of DU members probably ignore you).

advice. you're the one who called members "Russian bots" because we're calling out BS on his constant haranguing of the Democratic Party.

Thank you!

the Democratic Party? That kinda thing?

"Russian Trolls".. lol is that your story?

shine through all the goop that is being thrown at the wall to see if it sticks...I am so tired of the BS as well..as I said yesterday...a positive message works wonders...why all the BS(sanders) BS at this point...I don't understand - seems to me, after all the chatter on this thread the only one left with standing...is you..be well..

I have stopped commenting (although I do read through some of the posts) due to all the BS and not knowing who's who..I do know YOU always make sense..she she2 or mineral man and a few others...a very few these days...who ADD to the conversation, or have good insight or interesting articles..I spent some time yesterday catching up with Charlie Pierce's articles...

Haven't seen Omaha Steve??? ..keep up the good fight and take care of yourself first....

"Russian Bots".

definitely a lot of animus toward Bernie that comes to the surface whenever he shows up in the media and is, frankly, hard for me to fully understand.

at the grassroots.
nice work, bernie.

really, why did he even agree to do a unity tour? because that is where the applause is, i guess.

Do people have a problem with the message or the messenger? The D's message is not resonating. His opinion is that this is in large part a corporate over grass roots dynamic that needs to be addressed. I agree with that assessment, and I am a lifelong Dem. I hope I am not considered tiresome.

Time for a resurgence of the Party at the local and state level. Top-down organizations eventually fail because they lose touch with the average participant.

Despite hackers, Russians, Jill Stein, Comey and voter suppression?

Our bigger problem lies in down ticket races. Bernie's helping revitalize part of our base. That's a good thing.

It's crap like his that alienates people and drives down our margins.

... if that is the objective. A divided party is a weakened party. Why say and do things that divides and weakens the party?

That is why I don't think that's the objective.

reason

But to leave you on a cheery note..

Link to tweet

I think a grassroots entity sounds great.

Absolutely! I think it's time to stop all the focus on the presidential election. IMO we will continue to lose until we become an active presence in each and every community. The dem party where I live is still invisible. They have executive meetings but have yet to have a publicized general meeting. We just had a local election and there were no Dems running, not one. It won't matter how good a platform or how much we spend or where the money comes from if we aren't even on the ballot.

...the media to halt this Bernie vs Democrats storyline - but they won't because they are promoting the story.

I have some better storylines:

Why couldn't Trump win the vote?

Why was "Stronger Together" the more popular message?

Capitalism is failing. We need a scorched earth policy to rid this country and world of fascists.

I agree with him on this, and for the life of me, can't understand the source of all the animus directed toward him every time he appears in the media. I understand differences in opinion, and even differences in priorities, but this is hard to figure.

Amazing that there is still ambiguity about this given the results from last November.