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Axelrod Rips Clinton for Excuses: 'It Takes a Lot of Work to Lose to Donald Trump.' (Original Post) BeyondGeography May 2017 OP
He's Off The Reservation Here videohead5 May 2017 #1
"The fact that she was able to lose because of the Comey letter BeyondGeography May 2017 #2
It wasn't only the comey letter and you Cha May 2017 #23
Well, he's not a Hillary supporter but he made good points on not putting OnDoutside May 2017 #10
Hillary & her fellow high-level campaign associates. Please repudiate this if you can. If you can't NBachers May 2017 #33
And yet, she lost Michigan, a state that should have been safe for her. As someone who OnDoutside May 2017 #36
MI would have been fine if everyone voted and their votes counted -- VOTER SUPPRESSION AT WORK. ATL Ebony May 2017 #42
If that were true, 16 Republican primary opponents were hard workers delisen May 2017 #3
Exactly! maddiemom May 2017 #5
It took our outdated and inane electoral collge system, which ensures maddiemom May 2017 #7
Yep. Kittycow May 2017 #38
+1 2naSalit May 2017 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Kittycow May 2017 #37
Axelrod: "Comey's Letter was Instrumental in Her Defeat" oberliner May 2017 #4
I disagree with Axelrod. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #6
Maybe he's thinking bigger picture and wants Democrats to reflect on more than victimhood BeyondGeography May 2017 #9
She's not playing victim by acknowledging PART of the reason for the loss. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #11
I think she is doing exactly the right thing delisen May 2017 #15
Nobody is a fucking "victim" here.. Hillary is fine.. it's Cha May 2017 #26
I think th e point Axelrod is making here . . . markpkessinger May 2017 #17
No. That's not his point. He's wrong at misstating what HRC said. He's got an issue. nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #20
The man knows a thing or two about running presidential campaigns . . . successful oines even n/t markpkessinger May 2017 #22
Axe also doesn't know everything and he's wrong here and Cha May 2017 #25
Right . . . markpkessinger May 2017 #27
"Establishment" "Establishment" "Establishment" blah Cha May 2017 #28
You are off course on the thread. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #31
That's irrelevant. He's interpreting what someone said, and he's wrong in his interpretation. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #30
Assuming all things being equal (vs suppressing voters, erasing votes, etc.) she ATL Ebony May 2017 #43
never liked the guy. nt elmac May 2017 #8
Background - DURHAM D May 2017 #12
Good Point. Axelrod promoted a competing organization to DNC delisen May 2017 #16
CNN had Trump Supporters whoring for him all day and then they had Axelrod and VAn Jones JI7 May 2017 #19
Misleading headline! denvine May 2017 #13
Axelrod said he doesn't think Trump is a racist JI7 May 2017 #18
That speaks volumes. dalton99a May 2017 #21
wth happened to axelrod.. giving trump cover and Cha May 2017 #24
He forgot several things.. Mike Nelson May 2017 #29
She lost the campaign where it happened BeyondGeography May 2017 #32
Here's a list of Clinton or high-level campaign associates' visits to PA, MI, and WI: NBachers May 2017 #34
Tell it to Barack Obama BeyondGeography May 2017 #39
Sorry she was too lazy for you . . . NBachers May 2017 #41
Of course this gets ignored, repeatedly JHan May 2017 #40
It was a fluke treestar May 2017 #35

videohead5

(2,175 posts)
1. He's Off The Reservation Here
Thu May 4, 2017, 06:52 AM
May 2017

I will blame Comey forever.he's talking like Hillary should have seen Comey's letter coming.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
2. "The fact that she was able to lose because of the Comey letter
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:13 AM
May 2017

is something that deserves some introspection."

Yes.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
23. It wasn't only the comey letter and you
Wed May 10, 2017, 02:39 AM
May 2017

should know that.

There were a lot of egregious confluences that worked very hard to make sure the pervert was rigged in.

The Russian hacking, the m$m, 3rd party LIARS, and Voter Suppression.

OnDoutside

(19,960 posts)
10. Well, he's not a Hillary supporter but he made good points on not putting
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:18 AM
May 2017

enough resources into the likes of Michigan.

NBachers

(17,119 posts)
33. Hillary & her fellow high-level campaign associates. Please repudiate this if you can. If you can't
Wed May 10, 2017, 06:31 AM
May 2017

then tell us you're not speaking the truth here. Or we'll let the truth speak for itself.

Source: https://hillaryspeeches.com/speech-archive/2016-2/

MICHIGAN

January 12, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Fundraiser

February 7, 2016 Flint, Michigan Community Meeting

February 11, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser

February 12, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Fundraiser

March 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Canvass Kickoff

March 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Pre-Debate Reception

March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Church Services

March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Church Service

March 6, 2016 Royal Oak, Michigan LGBT Organizing Event

March 6, 2016 East Pointe, Michigan Grassroots Organizing Event

March 6, 2016 Flint, Michigan Get Out the Vote

March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Get Out the Vote

March 6, 2016 Southfield, Michigan Women’s Economic Forum

March 6, 2016 Flint, Michigan Democratic Debate (CNN)

March 7, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser

Detroit, Michigan Democratic Town Hall (Fox News)

March 7, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Women for Hillary

March 7, 2016 East Lansing, Michigan Organizing Event

March 7, 2016 Detroit, Michigan College Affordablity Round Table

March 7, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Organizing Event

March 7, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Get Out the Vote

May 1, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser

May 1, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Detroit NAACP Annual Fight For Freedom Fund Dinner

May 23, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Service Employees International Union Quadrennial International Convention

August 5, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Organizing Event

August 11, 2016 Warren, Michigan Speech – Plan to Help Working Families

September 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Metro-Detroit Labor Day Parade

September 13, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Rally

September 22, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Women for Hillary Event

September 22, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Students for Hillary Event

September 23, 2016 Flint, Michigan Media Availability

September 23, 2016 Flint, Michigan Phone Bank Kickoff

September 27, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Voter Protection Roundtable

September 27, 2016 Livonia, Michigan Phone Bank

September 27, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Women to Women Event

September 28, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Moms for Hillary Roundtable

September 28, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Education Roundtable

October 3, 2016 Saginaw, Michigan Rally

October 3, 2016 Flint, Michigan Rally

October 4, 2016 Haverford, Pennsylvania Conversation on Families

October 6, 2016 Dearborn, Michigan Rally

October 6, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Rally

October 6, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Rally

October 6, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Rally

October 18, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Economic Speech

October 29, 2016 Muskegon, Michigan Get Out the Vote

October 29, 2016 Battle Creek, Michigan Get Out the Vote

October 30, 2016 Taylor, Michigan Get Out the Vote

October 30, 2016 Warren, Michigan Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights Rally

OnDoutside

(19,960 posts)
36. And yet, she lost Michigan, a state that should have been safe for her. As someone who
Wed May 10, 2017, 06:58 AM
May 2017

wanted Hillary to win from the very beginning, I'm quite comfortable with what I wrote. The last 7 days she poured money into Michigan, which may actually have narrowed Trump's win there.

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
42. MI would have been fine if everyone voted and their votes counted -- VOTER SUPPRESSION AT WORK.
Wed May 10, 2017, 12:44 PM
May 2017

It's very clear now why tRump fought so hard to stop the recounts

delisen

(6,044 posts)
3. If that were true, 16 Republican primary opponents were hard workers
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:39 AM
May 2017

indeed.

Wonder why, as Senior Advisor to President, and campaign head, Axelrod wasn't able to foresee the rise of the Tea Party and the loss of over 1000 Democratic seats or do anything about it.

I don't know whether Axelrod is still working, through his company ASK, or in another capacity on messaging or astroturfing for mega corporations.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-03-14/the-secret-side-of-david-axelrodbusinessweek-business-news-stock-market-and-financial-advice

Without disclosure requirements for talking head commentators it is hard to know whether such commentators on politics are seeking from the heart, or messaging for money.



maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
7. It took our outdated and inane electoral collge system, which ensures
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:14 AM
May 2017

that the "poorly educated" have a running start over the "elites;" the "elites" being those liberals who live on "the coasts" and don't vote against their own interests. I know that the results of the 2016 election were more complicated than that, but I feel that Trump should have been stopped in the primaries, regardless of my personal distaste for the rest of the Republican field (especially Cruz), which were at least, not so obviously unhinged. Critical thinking skills regarding the Trump rhetoric and a thorough look at Trump's background and reputation should have stopped Trump voters in their tracks. Then again, most are still loyal to him, so go figure.. It doesn't say very much for them. ("Please, Sir,can I have another?&quot

Response to 2naSalit (Reply #14)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. Axelrod: "Comey's Letter was Instrumental in Her Defeat"
Thu May 4, 2017, 07:55 AM
May 2017

Could also be a headline accompanying this video.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. I disagree with Axelrod.
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:09 AM
May 2017

I hear her saying SHE is responsible and made a lot of mistakes. The fact that she says that the events in the last couple of weeks are ultimately the nail in the coffin of her loss is just acknowledging a truth, IMO. She is correct in that.

Look, she ALMOST won. She won the popular vote. She would have won, but for the Comey announcement near the election. The October surprise.

Should she have had a more comfortable lead, so the lost votes due to Comey wouldn't have cost her the election? Yes....and she totally takes the blame for that.

Axelrod is also wrong saying that it takes a lot of work to lose to Trump. That's not true. Because of the sentiment in the country at the time (and in Great Britain - the Brexit vote)....there was a fever and excitement about Trump. His being a populist and a non-politician. 17 established Republicans, most of whom were liked in their party and experienced and respected politicians, all lost to Trump.

Axelrod also criticizes this "the parties keep going back to the election." Yes, and they and the entire Democratic Party should. It should be analyzed, and all the mistakes acknowledged, so they aren't repeated.

Axelrod also says she didn't take full responsibility for the server. I was watching the debates and saw and heard her do just that. She clearly said it was a mistake on her part.

What Clinton didn't do, that I heard, was acknowledge the wrongdoing in her party giving favoritism to her over Sanders, and in accepting a debate question unethically sent to her from Donna Brazille. That may be in her book, but I haven't heard her address this. And Schulz, the wrongdoer, is still in a key position in the Dem Party, isn't she? These things hurt her votes, when they came to light.

Axelrod is way off base here, IMO. The only question is why. Why diss Clinton? Why does he view her statements in a light most unfavorable to her?

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
9. Maybe he's thinking bigger picture and wants Democrats to reflect on more than victimhood
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:17 AM
May 2017

re. Trump's win, and Hillary isn't helping right now on that front.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
11. She's not playing victim by acknowledging PART of the reason for the loss.
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:32 AM
May 2017

That is merely an acknowledgement of truth. We are all aware of the importance of the October Surprise in a presidential election. It happened to John Kerry, with a video by Osama bin Laden, too.

The timing of any surprise near the election has a direct and critical impact on the voting for the election.

We all know the importance of the Comey October Surprise without her even saying it. SHE HAS ACKNOWLEDGED SHE MADE MISTAKES. She is not playing the victim.

Wonder why he is falsely stating what she said?

Cha

(297,275 posts)
26. Nobody is a fucking "victim" here.. Hillary is fine.. it's
Wed May 10, 2017, 03:01 AM
May 2017

axelrod who isn't "helping now" with his selective memory.

Speaking of "Ripped".. here's Axe getting it..

John Legend Shuts Down David Axelrod For Saying Trump Isn’t Racist

http://www.mediaite.com/online/john-legend-shuts-down-david-axelrod-for-saying-trump-isnt-racist/

Idiot gives trump cover and "rips" Hillary. fucked up priorities.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
17. I think th e point Axelrod is making here . . .
Sun May 7, 2017, 10:42 PM
May 2017

. . . is that a race against, of all people, Donald Trump, should never have been so close that an action like Comey's, while it certainly was likely to influence some voters, should never have been the kind of thing that could tip the balance in Trump's favor. And I happen to agree with him on that point.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
27. Right . . .
Wed May 10, 2017, 03:06 AM
May 2017

fDemocrats have lost over 1,000 legislative seats across the country in the last ten years, Republicans control all three branches of government, Republicans hold 2/3 of the governships, and are one state legislature away from being able to call a constgitutional convention. But the party establishment has nothing to learn from anybody about anything . . .

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
31. You are off course on the thread.
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:11 AM
May 2017

This thread is about Axelrod stating a falsehood. He said that Clinton blames the October Surprise for her loss.

That is false. She did not say that. She said she blamed HERSELF MAINLY for her mistakes, but that it's clear that the October Surprise played a part.

This has nothing to do election strategy. It has to do with misstating what someone said.

Either she said what Axelrod said she said, or she didn't. She did not. That's an objective thing, you know. Axelrod was wrong.

Besides what she said...and no matter what she said, it is well known that October Surprise events are planned by the opposition, and that they DO have an impact on elections. No one needs to tell anyone that an October Surprise had an effect on a Presidential election; it's well known (and common sense) that it does.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
30. That's irrelevant. He's interpreting what someone said, and he's wrong in his interpretation.
Wed May 10, 2017, 04:03 AM
May 2017

That has nothing to do with what he has done for a living in the past.

She clearly said she takes responsibility for her mistakes that lead to the result, but that she thinks (and many others think) that clearly the October Surprise by Comey played a part. There were clearly people who were going to vote for her, but because of Comey's October Surprise had doubts at the last minute, and did not vote for her.

It couldn't be clearer. Axelrod is wrong to say that she blamed Comey, implying that she was saying that was THE reason she lost. She flatly did NOT say that or imply that.

He didn't pay attention to what she said, or he's projecting onto her what he thinks she really thinks. In either case, that is simply not what she said. And that's just a fact.

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
43. Assuming all things being equal (vs suppressing voters, erasing votes, etc.) she
Wed May 10, 2017, 12:52 PM
May 2017

missed out on hundreds of thousands of votes (in blue states even) so she was actually cheated BIG TIME out of her presidency. Axelrod, STFU!! Your backwards thinking is not helping at all so stop beating that horse, it's dead.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
12. Background -
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:42 AM
May 2017

David is the reason OFA was kept in place after the 2008 election. The OFA destroyed the DNC. Not having a party structure (the 50 state solution) for 8 years is why we lost state legislatures, governors seats, federal house and senate seats and the white house this year.

David doesn't want you to talk about that so he wants you to blame Hillary for everything.

Fuck David.

ETA: I had not thought about it until now but David has been a jerk every since he got his job at CNN. Makes me wonder if he was fired from the WH and did not want to go.


delisen

(6,044 posts)
16. Good Point. Axelrod promoted a competing organization to DNC
Thu May 4, 2017, 10:40 AM
May 2017

then ignored the ensuing loss of 1000+ Democratic seats to Republicans.

JI7

(89,251 posts)
19. CNN had Trump Supporters whoring for him all day and then they had Axelrod and VAn Jones
Mon May 8, 2017, 06:17 AM
May 2017

who were supposed to be the balace except they didn't support clinton in the same way. and seemed to think they were too cool and tried to be "fair" and above it all.

denvine

(802 posts)
13. Misleading headline!
Thu May 4, 2017, 09:47 AM
May 2017

He doesn't Rip her! He just points out suggestions and the clip played by the host shows that Clinton takes responsibility but her defeat was a combination of what they did wrong and Comey's letter and Wikileaks release of emails. That is undeniable!

Cha

(297,275 posts)
24. wth happened to axelrod.. giving trump cover and
Wed May 10, 2017, 02:54 AM
May 2017

willfully ignoring the reality of what just happened.

Actually it was a number of egregious confluences that worked very hard at rigging the pervert in.

Thanks for reminding me about Axelrod's insisting trump isn't racist.. I had forgotten that.

Mike Nelson

(9,958 posts)
29. He forgot several things..
Wed May 10, 2017, 03:29 AM
May 2017

...first being that, while Trump was elected, Hillary won the vote - and with a substantial total.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
32. She lost the campaign where it happened
Wed May 10, 2017, 05:33 AM
May 2017

Battlegrounds i.e. FL, NC, PA, OH, MI, WI...she won fewer electoral votes than any Dem since Dukakis. She campaigned in PA 12 times and still lost. She lost states that had been blue since the 1980s. She blew off MI and WI. She got a quarter million less votes in WI than Obama and 50k less votes in Detroit.

Axelrod didn't rip her; that's the video clip headline. He's just reminding people there was a lot more to this result than Comey and Russia. He's clearly right.

NBachers

(17,119 posts)
34. Here's a list of Clinton or high-level campaign associates' visits to PA, MI, and WI:
Wed May 10, 2017, 06:45 AM
May 2017

I'm tired of the "She didn't campaign there" deceptions.

Source: https://hillaryspeeches.com/speech-archive/2016-2/

PENNSYLVANIA

April 1, 2016 Newtown, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 1, 2016 State College, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 6, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 6, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 7, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 7, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 8, 2016 Erie, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 10, 2016 Villanova, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 13, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 13, 2016 Erie, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 20, 2016 Johnstown, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 20, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 20, 2016 Horsham, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 20, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 21, 2016 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 22, 2016 Reading, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 23, 2016 Swarthmore, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 23, 2016 Ambler, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

April 24, 2016 Wynnewood, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 24, 2016 Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 25, 2016 Youngwood, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

April 25, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

April 25, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 25, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

April 26, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Primary Night Event

June 14, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

July 8, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania African Methodist Episcopal Church Quadrennial Session

July 25, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Democratic National Convention – Day 1

July 26, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Democratic National Convention – Day 2

July 27, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Democratic National Convention – Day 3

July 28, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Democratic National Convention – Day 4

July 29, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Rally

July 29, 2016 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

July 30, 2016 Johnstown, Pennsylvania Manufacturing Event

July 30, 2016 Pittsburgh , Pennsylvania Organizing Event

August 15, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

August 16, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Voter Registration Event

August 30, 2016 Erie, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

August 30, 2016 Lancaster, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

August 31, 2016 Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

September 7, 2016 Carlisle, Pennsylvania Women for Hillary Organizing Event

September 7, 2016 State College, Pennsylvania Phone Bank

September 8, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Phone Bank Kickoff

September 9, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

September 9, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

September 13, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

September 19, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

September 24, 2016 Johnstown, Pennsylvania Voter Registration Kickoff

September 28, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Rally

September 28, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Rally

October 4, 2016 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

October 6, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Rally

October 7, 2016 Bristol, Pennsylvania Voter Registration Event

October 8, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Rally

October 8, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Rally

October 14, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Pitt Campus Organizing Event

October 18, 2016 Blue Bell, Pennsylvania Organizing Event

October 21, 2016 State College, Pennsylvania Rally

October 21, 2016 Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania Rally

October 22, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote Rally

October 22, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote Rally

October 23, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Women Vote Organizing Event

October 23, 2016 Phoenixville, Pennsylvania Women Vote Organizing Event

October 23, 2016 Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

October 26, 2016 Allentown, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

October 26, 2016 Newtown, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

October 26, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

October 27, 2016 Gladwyne, Pennsylvania Fundraiser

October 28, 2016 Aliquippa, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

October 28, 2016 Duncansville, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

October 28, 2016 Reading, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote

MICHIGAN

January 12, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Fundraiser

February 7, 2016 Flint, Michigan Community Meeting

February 11, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser

February 12, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Fundraiser

March 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Canvass Kickoff

March 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Pre-Debate Reception

March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Church Services

March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Church Service

March 6, 2016 Royal Oak, Michigan LGBT Organizing Event

March 6, 2016 East Pointe, Michigan Grassroots Organizing Event

March 6, 2016 Flint, Michigan Get Out the Vote

March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Get Out the Vote

March 6, 2016 Southfield, Michigan Women’s Economic Forum

March 6, 2016 Flint, Michigan Democratic Debate (CNN)

March 7, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser

Detroit, Michigan Democratic Town Hall (Fox News)

March 7, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Women for Hillary

March 7, 2016 East Lansing, Michigan Organizing Event

March 7, 2016 Detroit, Michigan College Affordablity Round Table

March 7, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Organizing Event

March 7, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Get Out the Vote

May 1, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser

May 1, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Detroit NAACP Annual Fight For Freedom Fund Dinner

May 23, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Service Employees International Union Quadrennial International Convention

August 5, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Organizing Event

August 11, 2016 Warren, Michigan Speech – Plan to Help Working Families

September 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Metro-Detroit Labor Day Parade

September 13, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Rally

September 22, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Women for Hillary Event

September 22, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Students for Hillary Event

September 23, 2016 Flint, Michigan Media Availability

September 23, 2016 Flint, Michigan Phone Bank Kickoff

September 27, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Voter Protection Roundtable

September 27, 2016 Livonia, Michigan Phone Bank

September 27, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Women to Women Event

September 28, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Moms for Hillary Roundtable

September 28, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Education Roundtable

October 3, 2016 Saginaw, Michigan Rally

October 3, 2016 Flint, Michigan Rally

October 4, 2016 Haverford, Pennsylvania Conversation on Families

October 6, 2016 Dearborn, Michigan Rally

October 6, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Rally

October 6, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Rally

October 6, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Rally

October 18, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Economic Speech

October 29, 2016 Muskegon, Michigan Get Out the Vote

October 29, 2016 Battle Creek, Michigan Get Out the Vote

October 30, 2016 Taylor, Michigan Get Out the Vote

October 30, 2016 Warren, Michigan Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights Rally

WISCONSIN

February 11, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Democratic Debate (PBS

February 12, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Fundraiser

March 24, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Get Out the Vote

March 24, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Get Out the Vote

March 24, 2016 Waukesha, Wisconsin Get Out the Vote

March 28, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Organizing Event

March 29, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Community Forum on Gun Violence

March 29, 2016 LaCrosse, Wisconsin Organizing Event

March 29, 2016 Green Bay, Wisconsin Organizing Event

April 1, 2016 Appleton, Wisconsin Organizing Event

April 2, 2016 Eau Claire, Wisconsin Get Out the Vote

April 2, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Organizing Event

April 2, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Democratic Party of Wisconsin’s 2016 Founders Day Gala

April 4, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Organizing Event

August 5, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Organizing Event

September 29, 2016 Kenosha, Wisconsin Early Voting Event

September 30, 2016 Green Bay, Wisconsin Early Voting Event

October 5, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Rally

October 7, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Early Voting Event

October 7, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Early Voting Event

October 8, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Early Voting Event

October 25, 2016 Stevens Point, Wisconsin Early Vote Rally

October 25, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Early Vote Rally

October 27, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Fundraiser

treestar

(82,383 posts)
35. It was a fluke
Wed May 10, 2017, 06:48 AM
May 2017

Just an odd happening. Donald of Orange could not have gotten luckier with the Electoral College.

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