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Related: About this forumAxelrod Rips Clinton for Excuses: 'It Takes a Lot of Work to Lose to Donald Trump.'
videohead5
(2,175 posts)I will blame Comey forever.he's talking like Hillary should have seen Comey's letter coming.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)is something that deserves some introspection."
Yes.
Cha
(297,275 posts)should know that.
There were a lot of egregious confluences that worked very hard to make sure the pervert was rigged in.
The Russian hacking, the m$m, 3rd party LIARS, and Voter Suppression.
OnDoutside
(19,960 posts)enough resources into the likes of Michigan.
NBachers
(17,119 posts)then tell us you're not speaking the truth here. Or we'll let the truth speak for itself.
Source: https://hillaryspeeches.com/speech-archive/2016-2/
MICHIGAN
January 12, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Fundraiser
February 7, 2016 Flint, Michigan Community Meeting
February 11, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser
February 12, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Fundraiser
March 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Canvass Kickoff
March 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Pre-Debate Reception
March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Church Services
March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Church Service
March 6, 2016 Royal Oak, Michigan LGBT Organizing Event
March 6, 2016 East Pointe, Michigan Grassroots Organizing Event
March 6, 2016 Flint, Michigan Get Out the Vote
March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Get Out the Vote
March 6, 2016 Southfield, Michigan Womens Economic Forum
March 6, 2016 Flint, Michigan Democratic Debate (CNN)
March 7, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser
Detroit, Michigan Democratic Town Hall (Fox News)
March 7, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Women for Hillary
March 7, 2016 East Lansing, Michigan Organizing Event
March 7, 2016 Detroit, Michigan College Affordablity Round Table
March 7, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Organizing Event
March 7, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Get Out the Vote
May 1, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser
May 1, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Detroit NAACP Annual Fight For Freedom Fund Dinner
May 23, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Service Employees International Union Quadrennial International Convention
August 5, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Organizing Event
August 11, 2016 Warren, Michigan Speech Plan to Help Working Families
September 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Metro-Detroit Labor Day Parade
September 13, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Rally
September 22, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Women for Hillary Event
September 22, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Students for Hillary Event
September 23, 2016 Flint, Michigan Media Availability
September 23, 2016 Flint, Michigan Phone Bank Kickoff
September 27, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Voter Protection Roundtable
September 27, 2016 Livonia, Michigan Phone Bank
September 27, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Women to Women Event
September 28, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Moms for Hillary Roundtable
September 28, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Education Roundtable
October 3, 2016 Saginaw, Michigan Rally
October 3, 2016 Flint, Michigan Rally
October 4, 2016 Haverford, Pennsylvania Conversation on Families
October 6, 2016 Dearborn, Michigan Rally
October 6, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Rally
October 6, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Rally
October 6, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Rally
October 18, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Economic Speech
October 29, 2016 Muskegon, Michigan Get Out the Vote
October 29, 2016 Battle Creek, Michigan Get Out the Vote
October 30, 2016 Taylor, Michigan Get Out the Vote
October 30, 2016 Warren, Michigan Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights Rally
OnDoutside
(19,960 posts)wanted Hillary to win from the very beginning, I'm quite comfortable with what I wrote. The last 7 days she poured money into Michigan, which may actually have narrowed Trump's win there.
ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)It's very clear now why tRump fought so hard to stop the recounts
delisen
(6,044 posts)indeed.
Wonder why, as Senior Advisor to President, and campaign head, Axelrod wasn't able to foresee the rise of the Tea Party and the loss of over 1000 Democratic seats or do anything about it.
I don't know whether Axelrod is still working, through his company ASK, or in another capacity on messaging or astroturfing for mega corporations.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2008-03-14/the-secret-side-of-david-axelrodbusinessweek-business-news-stock-market-and-financial-advice
Without disclosure requirements for talking head commentators it is hard to know whether such commentators on politics are seeking from the heart, or messaging for money.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)that the "poorly educated" have a running start over the "elites;" the "elites" being those liberals who live on "the coasts" and don't vote against their own interests. I know that the results of the 2016 election were more complicated than that, but I feel that Trump should have been stopped in the primaries, regardless of my personal distaste for the rest of the Republican field (especially Cruz), which were at least, not so obviously unhinged. Critical thinking skills regarding the Trump rhetoric and a thorough look at Trump's background and reputation should have stopped Trump voters in their tracks. Then again, most are still loyal to him, so go figure.. It doesn't say very much for them. ("Please, Sir,can I have another?"
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oberliner
(58,724 posts)Could also be a headline accompanying this video.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I hear her saying SHE is responsible and made a lot of mistakes. The fact that she says that the events in the last couple of weeks are ultimately the nail in the coffin of her loss is just acknowledging a truth, IMO. She is correct in that.
Look, she ALMOST won. She won the popular vote. She would have won, but for the Comey announcement near the election. The October surprise.
Should she have had a more comfortable lead, so the lost votes due to Comey wouldn't have cost her the election? Yes....and she totally takes the blame for that.
Axelrod is also wrong saying that it takes a lot of work to lose to Trump. That's not true. Because of the sentiment in the country at the time (and in Great Britain - the Brexit vote)....there was a fever and excitement about Trump. His being a populist and a non-politician. 17 established Republicans, most of whom were liked in their party and experienced and respected politicians, all lost to Trump.
Axelrod also criticizes this "the parties keep going back to the election." Yes, and they and the entire Democratic Party should. It should be analyzed, and all the mistakes acknowledged, so they aren't repeated.
Axelrod also says she didn't take full responsibility for the server. I was watching the debates and saw and heard her do just that. She clearly said it was a mistake on her part.
What Clinton didn't do, that I heard, was acknowledge the wrongdoing in her party giving favoritism to her over Sanders, and in accepting a debate question unethically sent to her from Donna Brazille. That may be in her book, but I haven't heard her address this. And Schulz, the wrongdoer, is still in a key position in the Dem Party, isn't she? These things hurt her votes, when they came to light.
Axelrod is way off base here, IMO. The only question is why. Why diss Clinton? Why does he view her statements in a light most unfavorable to her?
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)re. Trump's win, and Hillary isn't helping right now on that front.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)That is merely an acknowledgement of truth. We are all aware of the importance of the October Surprise in a presidential election. It happened to John Kerry, with a video by Osama bin Laden, too.
The timing of any surprise near the election has a direct and critical impact on the voting for the election.
We all know the importance of the Comey October Surprise without her even saying it. SHE HAS ACKNOWLEDGED SHE MADE MISTAKES. She is not playing the victim.
Wonder why he is falsely stating what she said?
delisen
(6,044 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)axelrod who isn't "helping now" with his selective memory.
Speaking of "Ripped".. here's Axe getting it..
John Legend Shuts Down David Axelrod For Saying Trump Isnt Racist
http://www.mediaite.com/online/john-legend-shuts-down-david-axelrod-for-saying-trump-isnt-racist/
Idiot gives trump cover and "rips" Hillary. fucked up priorities.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . is that a race against, of all people, Donald Trump, should never have been so close that an action like Comey's, while it certainly was likely to influence some voters, should never have been the kind of thing that could tip the balance in Trump's favor. And I happen to agree with him on that point.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)here..
John Legend Shuts Down David Axelrod For Saying Trump Isnt Racist
http://www.mediaite.com/online/john-legend-shuts-down-david-axelrod-for-saying-trump-isnt-racist/
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)fDemocrats have lost over 1,000 legislative seats across the country in the last ten years, Republicans control all three branches of government, Republicans hold 2/3 of the governships, and are one state legislature away from being able to call a constgitutional convention. But the party establishment has nothing to learn from anybody about anything . . .
Cha
(297,275 posts)blah blah.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)This thread is about Axelrod stating a falsehood. He said that Clinton blames the October Surprise for her loss.
That is false. She did not say that. She said she blamed HERSELF MAINLY for her mistakes, but that it's clear that the October Surprise played a part.
This has nothing to do election strategy. It has to do with misstating what someone said.
Either she said what Axelrod said she said, or she didn't. She did not. That's an objective thing, you know. Axelrod was wrong.
Besides what she said...and no matter what she said, it is well known that October Surprise events are planned by the opposition, and that they DO have an impact on elections. No one needs to tell anyone that an October Surprise had an effect on a Presidential election; it's well known (and common sense) that it does.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)That has nothing to do with what he has done for a living in the past.
She clearly said she takes responsibility for her mistakes that lead to the result, but that she thinks (and many others think) that clearly the October Surprise by Comey played a part. There were clearly people who were going to vote for her, but because of Comey's October Surprise had doubts at the last minute, and did not vote for her.
It couldn't be clearer. Axelrod is wrong to say that she blamed Comey, implying that she was saying that was THE reason she lost. She flatly did NOT say that or imply that.
He didn't pay attention to what she said, or he's projecting onto her what he thinks she really thinks. In either case, that is simply not what she said. And that's just a fact.
ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)missed out on hundreds of thousands of votes (in blue states even) so she was actually cheated BIG TIME out of her presidency. Axelrod, STFU!! Your backwards thinking is not helping at all so stop beating that horse, it's dead.
elmac
(4,642 posts)DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)David is the reason OFA was kept in place after the 2008 election. The OFA destroyed the DNC. Not having a party structure (the 50 state solution) for 8 years is why we lost state legislatures, governors seats, federal house and senate seats and the white house this year.
David doesn't want you to talk about that so he wants you to blame Hillary for everything.
Fuck David.
ETA: I had not thought about it until now but David has been a jerk every since he got his job at CNN. Makes me wonder if he was fired from the WH and did not want to go.
delisen
(6,044 posts)then ignored the ensuing loss of 1000+ Democratic seats to Republicans.
JI7
(89,251 posts)who were supposed to be the balace except they didn't support clinton in the same way. and seemed to think they were too cool and tried to be "fair" and above it all.
denvine
(802 posts)He doesn't Rip her! He just points out suggestions and the clip played by the host shows that Clinton takes responsibility but her defeat was a combination of what they did wrong and Comey's letter and Wikileaks release of emails. That is undeniable!
JI7
(89,251 posts)dalton99a
(81,514 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)willfully ignoring the reality of what just happened.
Actually it was a number of egregious confluences that worked very hard at rigging the pervert in.
Thanks for reminding me about Axelrod's insisting trump isn't racist.. I had forgotten that.
Mike Nelson
(9,958 posts)...first being that, while Trump was elected, Hillary won the vote - and with a substantial total.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Battlegrounds i.e. FL, NC, PA, OH, MI, WI...she won fewer electoral votes than any Dem since Dukakis. She campaigned in PA 12 times and still lost. She lost states that had been blue since the 1980s. She blew off MI and WI. She got a quarter million less votes in WI than Obama and 50k less votes in Detroit.
Axelrod didn't rip her; that's the video clip headline. He's just reminding people there was a lot more to this result than Comey and Russia. He's clearly right.
NBachers
(17,119 posts)I'm tired of the "She didn't campaign there" deceptions.
Source: https://hillaryspeeches.com/speech-archive/2016-2/
PENNSYLVANIA
April 1, 2016 Newtown, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
April 1, 2016 State College, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
April 6, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
April 6, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
April 7, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
April 7, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
April 8, 2016 Erie, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
April 10, 2016 Villanova, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
April 13, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
April 13, 2016 Erie, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
April 20, 2016 Johnstown, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
April 20, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
April 20, 2016 Horsham, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
April 20, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
April 21, 2016 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
April 22, 2016 Reading, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
April 23, 2016 Swarthmore, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
April 23, 2016 Ambler, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
April 24, 2016 Wynnewood, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
April 24, 2016 Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
April 25, 2016 Youngwood, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote
April 25, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote
April 25, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
April 25, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
April 26, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Primary Night Event
June 14, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
July 8, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania African Methodist Episcopal Church Quadrennial Session
July 25, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Democratic National Convention Day 1
July 26, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Democratic National Convention Day 2
July 27, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Democratic National Convention Day 3
July 28, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Democratic National Convention Day 4
July 29, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Rally
July 29, 2016 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
July 30, 2016 Johnstown, Pennsylvania Manufacturing Event
July 30, 2016 Pittsburgh , Pennsylvania Organizing Event
August 15, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
August 16, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Voter Registration Event
August 30, 2016 Erie, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
August 30, 2016 Lancaster, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
August 31, 2016 Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
September 7, 2016 Carlisle, Pennsylvania Women for Hillary Organizing Event
September 7, 2016 State College, Pennsylvania Phone Bank
September 8, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Phone Bank Kickoff
September 9, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
September 9, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
September 13, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
September 19, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
September 24, 2016 Johnstown, Pennsylvania Voter Registration Kickoff
September 28, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Rally
September 28, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Rally
October 4, 2016 Harrisburg, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
October 6, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Rally
October 7, 2016 Bristol, Pennsylvania Voter Registration Event
October 8, 2016 Scranton, Pennsylvania Rally
October 8, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Rally
October 14, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Pitt Campus Organizing Event
October 18, 2016 Blue Bell, Pennsylvania Organizing Event
October 21, 2016 State College, Pennsylvania Rally
October 21, 2016 Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania Rally
October 22, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote Rally
October 22, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote Rally
October 23, 2016 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Women Vote Organizing Event
October 23, 2016 Phoenixville, Pennsylvania Women Vote Organizing Event
October 23, 2016 Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
October 26, 2016 Allentown, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote
October 26, 2016 Newtown, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote
October 26, 2016 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote
October 27, 2016 Gladwyne, Pennsylvania Fundraiser
October 28, 2016 Aliquippa, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote
October 28, 2016 Duncansville, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote
October 28, 2016 Reading, Pennsylvania Get Out the Vote
MICHIGAN
January 12, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Fundraiser
February 7, 2016 Flint, Michigan Community Meeting
February 11, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser
February 12, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Fundraiser
March 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Canvass Kickoff
March 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Pre-Debate Reception
March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Church Services
March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Church Service
March 6, 2016 Royal Oak, Michigan LGBT Organizing Event
March 6, 2016 East Pointe, Michigan Grassroots Organizing Event
March 6, 2016 Flint, Michigan Get Out the Vote
March 6, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Get Out the Vote
March 6, 2016 Southfield, Michigan Womens Economic Forum
March 6, 2016 Flint, Michigan Democratic Debate (CNN)
March 7, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser
Detroit, Michigan Democratic Town Hall (Fox News)
March 7, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Women for Hillary
March 7, 2016 East Lansing, Michigan Organizing Event
March 7, 2016 Detroit, Michigan College Affordablity Round Table
March 7, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Organizing Event
March 7, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Get Out the Vote
May 1, 2016 Birmingham, Michigan Fundraiser
May 1, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Detroit NAACP Annual Fight For Freedom Fund Dinner
May 23, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Service Employees International Union Quadrennial International Convention
August 5, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Organizing Event
August 11, 2016 Warren, Michigan Speech Plan to Help Working Families
September 5, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Metro-Detroit Labor Day Parade
September 13, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Rally
September 22, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Women for Hillary Event
September 22, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Students for Hillary Event
September 23, 2016 Flint, Michigan Media Availability
September 23, 2016 Flint, Michigan Phone Bank Kickoff
September 27, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Voter Protection Roundtable
September 27, 2016 Livonia, Michigan Phone Bank
September 27, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Women to Women Event
September 28, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Moms for Hillary Roundtable
September 28, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Education Roundtable
October 3, 2016 Saginaw, Michigan Rally
October 3, 2016 Flint, Michigan Rally
October 4, 2016 Haverford, Pennsylvania Conversation on Families
October 6, 2016 Dearborn, Michigan Rally
October 6, 2016 Ann Arbor, Michigan Rally
October 6, 2016 Lansing, Michigan Rally
October 6, 2016 Grand Rapids, Michigan Rally
October 18, 2016 Detroit, Michigan Economic Speech
October 29, 2016 Muskegon, Michigan Get Out the Vote
October 29, 2016 Battle Creek, Michigan Get Out the Vote
October 30, 2016 Taylor, Michigan Get Out the Vote
October 30, 2016 Warren, Michigan Michigan Regional Council of Carpenters and Millwrights Rally
WISCONSIN
February 11, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Democratic Debate (PBS
February 12, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Fundraiser
March 24, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Get Out the Vote
March 24, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Get Out the Vote
March 24, 2016 Waukesha, Wisconsin Get Out the Vote
March 28, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Organizing Event
March 29, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Community Forum on Gun Violence
March 29, 2016 LaCrosse, Wisconsin Organizing Event
March 29, 2016 Green Bay, Wisconsin Organizing Event
April 1, 2016 Appleton, Wisconsin Organizing Event
April 2, 2016 Eau Claire, Wisconsin Get Out the Vote
April 2, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Organizing Event
April 2, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Democratic Party of Wisconsins 2016 Founders Day Gala
April 4, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Organizing Event
August 5, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Organizing Event
September 29, 2016 Kenosha, Wisconsin Early Voting Event
September 30, 2016 Green Bay, Wisconsin Early Voting Event
October 5, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Rally
October 7, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Early Voting Event
October 7, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Early Voting Event
October 8, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Early Voting Event
October 25, 2016 Stevens Point, Wisconsin Early Vote Rally
October 25, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Early Vote Rally
October 27, 2016 Madison, Wisconsin Fundraiser
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Or do a search on her August post-convention schedule and tell me she worked it just as hard as it needed to be worked.
NBachers
(17,119 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Just an odd happening. Donald of Orange could not have gotten luckier with the Electoral College.