We know that these cuts in medicaid will force clinics and hospitals to close and health workers to be laid off.

He said, expanding the risk pool, lowers the premiums. Can't these "journalists" think in real time and ask the obvious follow ups ?

Only 80%. If you are charged $100, Medicare pays $80.00, you pay $20.00. $1,000? You pay $200. Yes, medicare for all is better than nothing for nobody, but it would still put a working stiff with a family deep into a debt hole covering the 20%.

We want, the people need, full coverage, maybe with an upfront tax (proportionate to income): medical, hospitalization, dental, vision, the entire caboodle. Less than that, and we're no better than a 3rd world country.

This is one of the guys that someone said is wavering. As you can see, he is not a wavering Republican.

But some things are wrong w/the statements in this video:

First, Louisiana didn't pass Medicaid expansion "years" ago, as Wllie thinks. It went into effect in mid-2016. So those on Medicaid Expansion just recently got it and haven't been relying on it for years, as Willie suggests.

Second, Cassidy says that people on Medicaid moving to private insurance will help premiums go down because the more there are, the more spread out the risk, and ABRA CADABRA! Premiums go down! No. People on Medicaid Expansion are SICK and UNHEALTHY. They have been without health care for years. Prediabetes has turned to Diabetes, high cholesterol has turned into heart trouble, high blood pressure has turned into a stroke-risk person. Medicaid Expansion beneficiaries would, IMO, likely INCREASE the claims to ins. cos., and as a result INCREASE premiums.

Third, Cassidy doesn't understand how poor these people are. They don't have a pot to p__ss in, much less buy insurance, even with a subsidy, unless the govt pays for the whole thing. I am guessing that the subsidies in this bill are less than with the ACA. This Congress is not going to pay 100% of a private insurer insured's policy, I think. And the subsidy only matters if they get it up front. If not, it might as well not exist.

I'm going to repeat that because this is a big deal: FOR MOST PEOPLE, THE FACT THAT ANY SUBSIDY COMES LATER THAN THE POINT AT WHICH IT IS DUE TO PAY THE PREMIUM, MEANS THAT IT IS USELESS. Premiums are so high, or people are so poor (or both), that they CANNOT buy a policy in the first place without a subsidy.

It is RIDICULOUS to claim that adding Medicaid recipients to the private insurance market will make premiums go down. THAT is one reason that premiums rose so much, in the first place under Obamacare! Millions of sick low-income people who hadn't had good health care for years, if ever, flooded the market. There weren't enough healthy people signing up to counter that.

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he is basically full of sh*t and he just got away with it again, and again, just like Collins, running around doing the same sh*t, and the other right wing "senators" doing the same thing, and corporate media types and the corporation in the media are letting this sh*t happen.

Now on MSNBC, they get to put on for the social environment one Hugh (F***ing ) Hewitt, that gray hair piece of sh*t, blathering out his words of wisdom on why the world is flat, and the humans consuming his rat f***ing, think the world is flat


It's a f***ing LEAD BALLOON

Hey maybe we can cut their capital gains tax to zero as well.

No one in the world enjoys medical costs or treatments. "Enjoy" -- Waa ta ass!