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Racist Pregnant white woman picked the wrong one (Original Post) Stellar Aug 2017 OP
Holy crap! What was that about? Ilsa Aug 2017 #1
Why are we assuming this was a race-based incident? Weren't both women caucasian? hlthe2b Aug 2017 #2
Yeah, I didn't hear any racism. Both of them are white. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #19
The woman said "you say some racist shit to me and then put your hands on me" -- and it was on! ATL Ebony Aug 2017 #28
I went to youtube cause I could not hear the beginning. Here is a comment.... riversedge Aug 2017 #3
Looks fake to me. Looks like all star wrestling BS. Bengus81 Aug 2017 #12
Was the racist woman actually pregnant? backscatter712 Aug 2017 #18
They both need to go to jail for assault. Trust Buster Aug 2017 #4
I think the woman in pants has the right to defend herself. Ilsa Aug 2017 #5
She has the legal right to defend herself in proportion to the threat. Trust Buster Aug 2017 #6
I think the proportion was spot on.... stonecutter357 Aug 2017 #8
The laws of self defense disagrees with you. Violence is not a solution. Trust Buster Aug 2017 #10
The law did agree with her. backscatter712 Aug 2017 #27
Nonsense. If the police stopped this woman and she touched them and the police responded Trust Buster Aug 2017 #31
Well, she's not trained, and she's not armed. backscatter712 Aug 2017 #33
I think you are right, but it can be hard to Ilsa Aug 2017 #13
Not in my opinion. Once the big lady went up to her yelling and pushed her or hit her... Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #20
The scuffle started when white trash lady started harassing a Haitian security guard. backscatter712 Aug 2017 #24
Don't put your hands on grown folks and crap like this won't happen . stonecutter357 Aug 2017 #7
This post needs a WARNING - It is very violent. Equinox Moon Aug 2017 #9
Trump brings out the worse in his supporters...they feels more bodly than ever. Stellar Aug 2017 #11
I didn't hear that. Is that at the beginning? What does that mean, since other woman is white, too? Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #21
Your post reminds me 45's "many sides" comments. The pants woman defended herself -- no fault. ATL Ebony Aug 2017 #29
What I'd like to know is: sandensea Aug 2017 #14
LOL mdbl Aug 2017 #23
Who do you think shot the video?! (n/t) PJMcK Aug 2017 #32
Me Bob Loblaw Aug 2017 #15
Don't ouija Aug 2017 #16
What? WHAT? Where is the racist comment? I didn't hear anything racist. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #22
I don't feel bad for her. Ilsa Aug 2017 #25
Me neither. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. backscatter712 Aug 2017 #34
Yep. Like imagining a ciggy butt stuck to her lower lip, teetering, Ilsa Aug 2017 #35
She's the kind of woman that'll be smoking through her trach hole... backscatter712 Aug 2017 #36
When I was doing floor nursing, a pre-op patient Ilsa Aug 2017 #37
Say racist shit, get hit. backscatter712 Aug 2017 #17
back story for those who are interested IronLionZion Aug 2017 #26
Whoa...where are the police when you need them. LOL! nt Stellar Aug 2017 #30

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
1. Holy crap! What was that about?
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 08:07 AM
Aug 2017

Why did the woman in the turquoise dress attack that woman who countered and fought back? How was she supposed to know that she was three months pregnant.

hlthe2b

(102,358 posts)
2. Why are we assuming this was a race-based incident? Weren't both women caucasian?
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 08:13 AM
Aug 2017


Regardless of whatever the hell this was about, this crap just underscores my disgust with reality tv which has made this kind of crude incivility popular.

riversedge

(70,299 posts)
3. I went to youtube cause I could not hear the beginning. Here is a comment....
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 08:15 AM
Aug 2017

Lots of nasty comments also. FYI





Colin Harvey10 hours ago
Yep, she said on the instagram post that the Blue dress lady was saying some really nasty racsist stuff about people in the lobby, and Brawler Beckey just told her to shut up no one wanted to hear that garbage.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
5. I think the woman in pants has the right to defend herself.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 08:41 AM
Aug 2017

She shouldn't have to get hurt first when the other woman has her hands on her already and has an advantage with mass.

There's no way for her to know the other woman was three months pregnant.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
6. She has the legal right to defend herself in proportion to the threat.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 08:47 AM
Aug 2017

She went way over the top in her response. Her response was violent and over the top. She committed the more violent assault IMO.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
27. The law did agree with her.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 01:08 AM
Aug 2017

From http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/miami-racist-white-woman-fight-video-filmed-in-coral-springs-9614851

Update 1 p.m.: According to Coral Springs PD, the fight happened around 8 p.m. Tuesday at the La Quinta Inn at 3701 University Dr. The report doesn't shed any light on the origins of the fight or Dagg's claims that Cortts had made racist comments, but police did find the two woman brawling in the lobby of the hotel. Officers interviewed witnesses and decided that Summer Cortts was at fault for "placing her hands on Colleen Dagg as she was sitting down in the chair."

Although Dagg declined to pursue battery charges, Coral Springs Police say they arrested Cortts on the more minor charges because she "disrupted the peace in a public place." Cortts was also barred from returning to the La Quinta. Court records don't show any previous charges for Cortts in Palm Beach or Broward County; it's unclear if she has an attorney yet.
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
31. Nonsense. If the police stopped this woman and she touched them and the police responded
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:08 AM
Aug 2017

With a beat down like you witnessed, many would be screaming police brutality. She deserves a felonious assault charge IMO.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
33. Well, she's not trained, and she's not armed.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:07 AM
Aug 2017

But she was threatened with being "shot in the face" by that woman, and she was assaulted by that woman, so I would have done the same damned thing.

When you're in a self-defense situation, when it's time to use force, you explode with that force. You strike swiftly, and you strike viciously. And you keep striking until the threat is ended. Like this woman did. You don't take chances, you don't tap lightly and hope your opponent suddenly gains enlightenment and stops fighting. YOU END THE THREAT.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
13. I think you are right, but it can be hard to
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 02:52 PM
Aug 2017

Suppress a defensive primitive instinct once it's been challenged. And if she's been assaulted before, the drive might be even stronger to fight back harder. And we don't know if there is someone close to her that she felt was being insulted, even threatened, by the racist rant. I think there could be, may be, mitigating circumstances.

I don't think she deserves any worse punishment than the woman in the dress.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. Not in my opinion. Once the big lady went up to her yelling and pushed her or hit her...
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 07:44 PM
Aug 2017

the other woman hit back enough to get her down on the ground and make sure she didn't rise, without actually HURTING her. That's important. The big lady didn't seem to have actual injuries...so it may have looked bad, but it wasn't.

It's not like 2 men doing punches, which can break jaws and knock out teeth.

The one doing the physical violence first is the one at fault. I think that's the law. Now, the 2nd woman didn't have a right to shoot her or hit her with a brick, but doing what she did...I'm fine w/that. She needed to get that big woman off her and make sure she didn't return to hit her again.

Wonder what the fight was about.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
24. The scuffle started when white trash lady started harassing a Haitian security guard.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 08:51 PM
Aug 2017

The younger woman called her out on it, so white trash lady got in her face and started making threats. The rest was captured on the video.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
9. This post needs a WARNING - It is very violent.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 09:58 AM
Aug 2017

Both women are at fault. The by-standers are at fault as well. Did you here the musing-chuckles and see long delay to stop it?

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
11. Trump brings out the worse in his supporters...they feels more bodly than ever.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 10:45 AM
Aug 2017

Last edited Fri Aug 25, 2017, 11:21 AM - Edit history (1)

If the lady in the blue dress had stayed out of that ladies face and put her hands on her, that fight would never have happened. Grown folks today, this is life in the Trump era.


ETA: Lady says she was using her White Privilege for the right reason...

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/using-my-white-privilege-for-the-right-reasons-florida-woman-justifies-brutal-beatdown-of-racist-woman/

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. I didn't hear that. Is that at the beginning? What does that mean, since other woman is white, too?
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 07:46 PM
Aug 2017

I heard the big lady say she has a room there, too. But I didn't hear anything about white privilege.

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
29. Your post reminds me 45's "many sides" comments. The pants woman defended herself -- no fault.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 05:38 AM
Aug 2017

Dress blue woman = lesson learned (hopefully)!

ouija

(398 posts)
16. Don't
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 05:39 PM
Aug 2017

Start none, won't be none. She defended herself alright. Lady in the blue is a pig and a liar. She lied to the police we she said she didn't put her hands on her first, which she clearly did...and threatened to shoot her in the face.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
25. I don't feel bad for her.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 09:11 PM
Aug 2017

I don't want to think about the hate she's going to teach that fetus in a few years.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
34. Me neither. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 11:10 AM
Aug 2017

And I'm betting she was lying about being pregnant.

Probably drunk too. Alcoholic. She's got that 39-going-on-89 look to her.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
35. Yep. Like imagining a ciggy butt stuck to her lower lip, teetering,
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 03:26 PM
Aug 2017

while her audience stares at it and takes bets on when it will fall out, dumping ash on her massive bosom, her voice sounding more hoarse each day, not caring about smoking during her *ahem* pregnancy.
Yeah, I've seen the type: 39 going on 89. Nothing in the world is ever her fault.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
37. When I was doing floor nursing, a pre-op patient
Sat Aug 26, 2017, 08:45 PM
Aug 2017

on her way for a coronary bypass graft surgery had a smoke in the common area, lying on her gurney, on her way to surgery. A real Type A. No one was going to stop her.

I suspect she gave the ICU nurses hell afterwards.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
17. Say racist shit, get hit.
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 06:12 PM
Aug 2017

This was clear-cut self defense. Racist white trash woman first threatened to shoot the defending woman in the face, then got in her face and shoved her. The defending woman had the right to use all force necessary to stop the threat, and did.

That racist piece of white trash needed an ass-kicking.

IronLionZion

(45,528 posts)
26. back story for those who are interested
Fri Aug 25, 2017, 10:22 PM
Aug 2017
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Video-of-Racist-Woman-Beatdown-at-Coral-Springs-Hotel-Goes-Viral-441748103.html

"You know how white women are" just kidding, it was "You know how these Haitian people are"

23 year old savagely beats 39 year old might get more sympathy. This is yet another reason for me to steer clear of Florida.

I doubt many of DU's fine liberal white blonde women would feel like these two ladies represent them, yet this happens when there is a video of other demographics of people behaving in a trashy manner.

Also the great state of Florida:
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