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Televangelist Joel Osteen Closes Off Church To Hurricane Victims (Original Post) Quixote1818 Aug 2017 OP
They say they will take people in the church. applegrove Aug 2017 #1
He only did that after all the public shaming Quixote1818 Aug 2017 #2
Who'd a thunk it? dchill Aug 2017 #3
Yes. applegrove Aug 2017 #4
Is there a means test..... SergeStorms Aug 2017 #14
I agree 100% Moostache Aug 2017 #15
The churches..... SergeStorms Aug 2017 #18
I have never had any use for Osteen.. chillfactor Aug 2017 #5
60 Minutes did a story on him years ago and asked if he should be enriching himself applegrove Aug 2017 #6
Here's the 60 minutes piece (video) Bladewire Aug 2017 #7
"the right people" Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #8
It's a sign... Bladewire Aug 2017 #9
will at the entrance to heaven heaven05 Aug 2017 #16
Well, DUH DFW Aug 2017 #10
A CON MFM008 Aug 2017 #11
The Mormon Church is not letting people stay in their buildings either FreeState Aug 2017 #12
mosques are Skittles Aug 2017 #13
behind closed doors heaven05 Aug 2017 #17

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
14. Is there a means test.....
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 05:36 AM
Aug 2017

to be able to enter his opulent palace of the lord, or can everyone benefit from this tax exempt facade of foolishness?

He seems like the type of guy who wouldn't want just anyone entering "his" enormous "church". Charlatans like him are the reason I abhor organized religion. Any "church" which has spent it's monetary donations on the acquisition of worldly, wealthy affectations should be subject to taxation, in my opinion.

Every "church" should be made to keep detailed books of money taken in, and money spent on helping those in need. Like any other charity, a "church" that spends an inordinate amount of money on "fundraising" or "administrative costs" should get a low rating, and a visit from the IRS. When a "church" becomes nothing more than a personal piggy bank for an unscrupulous conman, then it's time for HEAVY taxation. These people are no more a "man of god" than I am. They're gaming a system that's ripe for the picking, and playing upon the fears of it's parishioners to enrich themselves, and nothing more.

Religion is a racket. Look at the wealth the Vatican, Scientology, and just about ANY major "religious" denomination has amassed. Is THAT what religion is supposed to be about? I'd dearly love to see this major league jackass hoisted on his own petard, and I get the feeling it'll happen to this clown, just like it has to the rest of the "men of god" of his ilk that came before him.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
15. I agree 100%
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 09:16 AM
Aug 2017

If these money making scams want to enrich individuals and specific families, then TAX them and tax them at the individual rates with NO DEDUCTIONS...a non-profit "church" should be required to show their donations and net-zero worth annually to retain a tax-free status. After all, the tax-free rationale is because they are soooooo charitable, right?

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
18. The churches.....
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 04:46 AM
Aug 2017

have so abused and misused their tax free status it's a joke, but the government won't go NEAR a church since their legal run-ins with scientology. There SHOULD be some means test to see if they're an actual church, or a money making scheme for amassing personal or "church owned" wealth. Religions with BILLIONS in assets are NOT CHURCHES OR RELIGIONS! These shysters are laughing at the government that protects them and their precious "religions" and are amassing wealth beyond belief. It's past time to crack down on these criminals.

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
5. I have never had any use for Osteen..
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:27 AM
Aug 2017

He lives in luxury at the expense of his congregation.......he is no more a Christian than the devil is.

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
6. 60 Minutes did a story on him years ago and asked if he should be enriching himself
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 01:59 AM
Aug 2017

if he leads a Christian church.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
16. will at the entrance to heaven
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 02:06 PM
Aug 2017

god say to him when he pleads his case, "lord I preached in your name, will the christian god tell this scammer son of a ...." "I know you not"...

DFW

(54,379 posts)
10. Well, DUH
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 03:10 AM
Aug 2017

What, was there anyone out there who still was under the impression that he was a true Christian or something?

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