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An unofficial video of "We Didn't Start the Fire" (Original Post)
ailsagirl
Nov 2017
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gristy
(10,667 posts)1. some history behind this song
https://genius.com/Billy-joel-we-didnt-start-the-fire-lyrics
This monster hit of a song was created in 1989, when Joel turned 40. The idea spawned from a conversation he had with a friend of Sean Lennon. The friend just turned 21 and was complaining about how crazy it was to be living in his era, therefore undermining any other time before his. This encouraged Joel to write a song that would prove that any time is filled with extremes.
Starting from 1949 (the year in which he was born), he chronicled the major events that occurred during that time in a rapid fire delivery of names, places, and cultural works.
We Didnt Start the Fire is a constant reminder that no matter how crazy times may seem today, they have always been crazy and will continue to be crazy as long as life continues to exist.
It is a time capsule of political and cultural events that enlighten the listener to the moments that shape Billy Joels perspective of the world.
Particularly striking is the pattern of events that succeeded World War II and led through the beginning, middle, and end of the Cold War. There are constant reminders that a devastating nuclear war threatened large populaces on the planet and though you yourself may live in a time or turmoil and struggle, Billy Joel plants the chronological stake that claims his formative years were shrouded by the universal acceptance of legitimate fears of the end of the world.
Billy Joel has openly admitted that the structure of the song is basic and not up to par with most of his work. The song is performed with common instrumentation found in 1980s pop rock. Bass guitar and drums maintain rhythm in the verses while synths and background vocals adorn the choruses. There are very few moments where Billy Joels vocals are silent, and this, as well as the uncharacteristically simple song structure, may have much to do with the focus of the song being the lyrics, almost exclusively. There is, however, a harmonic strategy that is rarely performed in covers and even in live versions of the song, and it leaves the song bereft of a major impact in its absence.
Cadence is a musical term referring to a series of notes that end a musical phrase. A cadence can be either open or closed. You can think of an open cadence in music as a person pushing a boulder up a hill, and closed cadence is the relief of pushing the boulder down the other side. A musical example is in the Isley Brothers' Shout where the gospel jubilation of the rhythm is interrupted by a moment of soulful confession. The last note of the confession is held for an extended period (open cadence) before the excited gospel starts again. The closed cadence appears at the start of the next phrase, acting like an emotional see-saw.
We Didnt Start the Fire essentially follows the same pattern in the verses where the closed cadence is the start of the phrase and the open cadence can be heard in the rest of the phrase. However, the chorus which acts like a merciful respite from the relentless bombardment of mementos in the verses features a steadily played bass line that maintains a constant open cadence. This is accentuated by the fact that the line continues as the song fades out. The emotional result of this arrangement helps solidify the notion that time always moves forward and never stops, and this is especially felt during the lyric, but when we are gone it will still burn on and on and on
This monster hit of a song was created in 1989, when Joel turned 40. The idea spawned from a conversation he had with a friend of Sean Lennon. The friend just turned 21 and was complaining about how crazy it was to be living in his era, therefore undermining any other time before his. This encouraged Joel to write a song that would prove that any time is filled with extremes.
Starting from 1949 (the year in which he was born), he chronicled the major events that occurred during that time in a rapid fire delivery of names, places, and cultural works.
We Didnt Start the Fire is a constant reminder that no matter how crazy times may seem today, they have always been crazy and will continue to be crazy as long as life continues to exist.
It is a time capsule of political and cultural events that enlighten the listener to the moments that shape Billy Joels perspective of the world.
Particularly striking is the pattern of events that succeeded World War II and led through the beginning, middle, and end of the Cold War. There are constant reminders that a devastating nuclear war threatened large populaces on the planet and though you yourself may live in a time or turmoil and struggle, Billy Joel plants the chronological stake that claims his formative years were shrouded by the universal acceptance of legitimate fears of the end of the world.
Billy Joel has openly admitted that the structure of the song is basic and not up to par with most of his work. The song is performed with common instrumentation found in 1980s pop rock. Bass guitar and drums maintain rhythm in the verses while synths and background vocals adorn the choruses. There are very few moments where Billy Joels vocals are silent, and this, as well as the uncharacteristically simple song structure, may have much to do with the focus of the song being the lyrics, almost exclusively. There is, however, a harmonic strategy that is rarely performed in covers and even in live versions of the song, and it leaves the song bereft of a major impact in its absence.
Cadence is a musical term referring to a series of notes that end a musical phrase. A cadence can be either open or closed. You can think of an open cadence in music as a person pushing a boulder up a hill, and closed cadence is the relief of pushing the boulder down the other side. A musical example is in the Isley Brothers' Shout where the gospel jubilation of the rhythm is interrupted by a moment of soulful confession. The last note of the confession is held for an extended period (open cadence) before the excited gospel starts again. The closed cadence appears at the start of the next phrase, acting like an emotional see-saw.
We Didnt Start the Fire essentially follows the same pattern in the verses where the closed cadence is the start of the phrase and the open cadence can be heard in the rest of the phrase. However, the chorus which acts like a merciful respite from the relentless bombardment of mementos in the verses features a steadily played bass line that maintains a constant open cadence. This is accentuated by the fact that the line continues as the song fades out. The emotional result of this arrangement helps solidify the notion that time always moves forward and never stops, and this is especially felt during the lyric, but when we are gone it will still burn on and on and on
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)2. Wow-- thanks!!
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)4. Very informative! Thank you.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)5. You're most welcome!
Rhiannon12866
(205,503 posts)6. Terrific video and thanks for the background!
Makes me appreciate it even more!
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)3. Makes you remember who said he came set the world on fire