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TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:06 PM Dec 2017

I Don't Know About You, But I Wish Howard Dean Had Been Running The DNC SINCE 2008,

...and I wish he still was! He ran a 50 State campaign in 2008, and took the House, the Senate, and the White House. Nearly got a SUPERMAJORITY in the Senate. And then the Party dumped him. I guess Democrats somehow feel guilty about winning? Wouldn't surprise me.

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I Don't Know About You, But I Wish Howard Dean Had Been Running The DNC SINCE 2008, (Original Post) TrollBuster9090 Dec 2017 OP
Yes, Obama's biggest mistake was replacing him. Cattledog Dec 2017 #1
He was under the influence of Rahm Emanuel, who hates Dean, at the time. maddiemom Dec 2017 #11
Obama didn't replace Howard. DFW Dec 2017 #18
I have ZERO confidence in Tom Perez! Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #2
Me, too! I wonder how active the DNC is about recruiting Dems... TheDebbieDee Dec 2017 #3
The DNC is too busy with their Unity Reform to worry about Democrats leftofcool Dec 2017 #4
He did very well in the past. elleng Dec 2017 #5
I thought the same thing! Rocky888 Dec 2017 #6
When Howard Dean speaks democrank Dec 2017 #7
Me too, he is smart, rational and wise. BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #19
Absolutely !!! TryLogic Dec 2017 #8
Agree. Nt fierywoman Dec 2017 #9
The DNC traded winning bluecollar2 Dec 2017 #10
Dean wanted to go back and run the DNC and they wouldn't have it. YOHABLO Dec 2017 #12
IIRC it was Obama PDittie Dec 2017 #17
Absolutely Dalton Mac Dec 2017 #13
I wish he was too.. Hell, I think he would have made a great president! mountain grammy Dec 2017 #14
Honesty Snoopy 7 Dec 2017 #15
Were you a DUer back then? Do you remember the Dean hate? IronLionZion Dec 2017 #16

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
11. He was under the influence of Rahm Emanuel, who hates Dean, at the time.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:16 AM
Dec 2017

Supposedly Emanuel scorned the Fifty State Strategy, and was very resentful that it worked. Don't know why Obama wasn't more appreciative of Dean. His successors were disastrous.

DFW

(54,384 posts)
18. Obama didn't replace Howard.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:25 PM
Dec 2017

I talked to him soon after Obama's inauguration, and he said the equivalent of "my work is done here." He explained that the Party Chair is the head of the party when we don't have the White House, but the President is the party head when we do have the White House, and that it was now (Feb. 2009) in Obama's lap. He had still held out a little hope that Obama would put him in the administration, although that hope was fading fast with Rahm whispering in Obama's ear as White House Chief of staff.

But make no mistake, Howard considered the DNC chairmanship a second fiddle when we had the presidency (which was, after all, his doing), and left on his own. No one replaced him.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
3. Me, too! I wonder how active the DNC is about recruiting Dems...
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:14 PM
Dec 2017

New people to run for office - ANY office next November. If they find a lot of men and women newbies with impassioned causes, they make take out a lot of old-school republican incumbents!

elleng

(130,908 posts)
5. He did very well in the past.
Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:20 PM
Dec 2017

I'm not sure he's where he used to be, but your suggestion has merit. Things likely would have gone better with him leading.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
12. Dean wanted to go back and run the DNC and they wouldn't have it.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:11 AM
Dec 2017

So I guess it was a bad call by Obama. I am not sure if it was his decision or not.

Snoopy 7

(527 posts)
15. Honesty
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:09 AM
Dec 2017

Let’s be honest with our selves. The dnc saw dollar signs in their eyes. Dean not only got them votes he got them cheap, $1-100 at a time. But the dnc & dcc saw the republicans getting rich off their doners and made the choice of MANA OVER PARTY.
If you don’t know one of the rules for the new “progressives/democrats” running is don’t bad mouth another dem (corporate dem) or we will pull your support. But the corporate dems don’t need the parties money so they won’t hold back on attacking the progressive candidates. Another party rule is if we give you money ‘you have to spend 75% on tv ads’. Which feeds the elite beast. It’s never been about jealousy or dislike ‘just follow the money Lebowski’...

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
16. Were you a DUer back then? Do you remember the Dean hate?
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:57 AM
Dec 2017

A lot of people here enjoy losing and wanted to defeat the red state moderates he recruited across the country. Nobody cares about winning both houses of the congress in 2006 and the white house in 2008 as much as purity purges. The purge mentality was strong then.

So there were repeated calls to primary those red state losers, and then much rejoicing when they got thrown out in the tea party revolution in 2010.

Yes, a lot of DUers can't handle winning and would rather leave that to the other party.

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