They're lost causes. Focus on the Democratic base.

Politico did an article about a month ago about a small town in rural Pennsylvania where residents don't really believe Trump will keep any of his promises and fully believe their lives will get worse with him in office, but they support him 100 percent anyway.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/08/donald-trump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800

Stockholm Syndrome.

I am empathetic to there situation but believe that they have the power to help themselves by voting for people that will represent them and policies that help them. Yet they vote against there own self interest and are proud of it.

I just don't get it. 😉

I don't understand it either, but I know that there is a huge problem on their part in perceiving reality.

Very strange.

These are some stupid mfers.

I.e., we assume what should be their "self interest", but the reality is more stark. There's a lot of denial about their thinking which is apparently along the lines of wanting someone willing to "attack and take back what is 'rightfully theirs from other'", in order to fulfill an epiphany of more for them.

Watching the video it is apparently clear that self interest included needing medical care and needing jobs. They voted for someone who is looking to either eliminate or make unaffordable medical care. They also voted for someone who has had multiple bankruptcies. What were they expecting to happen once ha became president? Suddenly change his behaviors that he has been exhibiting his whole life?

or on TV and what they really mean and "want" to happen to reach those goals. I.e., they are internally prioritizing their concerns and expecting that the solving of something else will lead to the solving of what the "say" they "want/need".

What they expected is apparently someone who looks like them, dresses like them, talks smack like them, refuses to back down, presumably doesn't take any shit, and looks the part of someone who can "control fate" with a whip. Sortof like this guy -



Of course we know what often happens to guys like the above (e.g., Siegfried & Roy) - http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=7005903&page=1

I'm a straight shooter... I say what I mean and mean what I say. I guess, naively, that I assume others would do that too.

I'm not a mind reader, but I suspect that basic human instinct is to want to be happy, healthy and feel useful i.e gainfully employed. By placing there vote for Trump or republicans in general, they will get the complete opposite I.e. Voting against their own self interest.

leader of the Senate, Mitch "Turtle Head" McConnell, is from Kentucky, but no, she did not.

You don't stay in a recession area and expect to get paid well. It DOES NOT HAPPEN.

Young people, after they become educated or skilled, are supposed to go looking for good jobs, wherever that takes them.

This is also true for the working class inner city youth. You have to go where the economy is good, jobs are plentiful, and the cost of living is reasonable. You put your stuff in your old car, and head out. Get a cheap apartment and a job. Then move to a better job. Then work your a__ off, and move to a better job. (Preferably get the apt. and job before you move somewhere.)

She might not even have to move very far. Depends on where the nearest large city is.

I just don't get sitting where you are, and waiting for someone to do something. Even if things turned around there, it would be years before the effects would be felt.

The situation for older people who are settled, homeowners, too old to get good jobs elsewhere, have health problems. But for the young people, it's just necessary to move sometimes.

For whatever reason they choose to stay. I read an article about it and the millennials' mindset. Young and even the old are staying put even though it is financially never going to "pay off". There is no more moving to where the jobs are which was the norm during the history of the US. Only recently has this changed.

It's interesting, the mindset not to move. My family took it as a rejection of them. I didn't understand that. I had to move to get a job that paid anything. Had to.

Oh, well. You can stay where you are and cry, I guess.

all you want" but when this current group of voters chose to believe pie- in- the-sky BS that "the GOP is going to bring jobs back to them so stay put and vote for us" and they believe the con artists, then the entire country suffers due to a minority's unrealistic mindset AND THEY ACTUALLY VOTE!

Reagan's 2nd term. The recession had hit big. It would have been stupid to stay where I was, with double digit unemployment & low wages, and WAIT for a miracle.

(Unfortunately, Bush Sr won the next election, what with Dukakis being the Dem. candidate and all.) But at least he ran against the voodoo economics of Reagan's trickle down tax cuts, and he raised taxes.

THAT is what they "see". Someone who bursts into a situation and "takes charge". We call that kind of behavior rude. They call it "strong and assertive". I.e., "USA!!11!!1 USA!!11!!1 USA!11!!!".

While 45 is easy to pound on, all of us know he's only a symptom of the larger problem. All of us here on DU are well aware that the President does not make laws. The president can't even introduce a bill in either house.

Yes, when an effective leader is the President things are easier to get done. Reality is that the President is very temporary. The congress, on the other hand, has become the cancer that needs to be eradicated. Congress people who make it a life-long career are a big problem.

So why the f*uck do they keep voting for Mitch McConnell - career politician?

Giving away the store in tax cuts to corporations when with some strings attached you can solve these problems with tax free zones for 5 to 10 years in these rural areas and making sure they are wired for high speed internet.they have got to have just one industry open in this town and it will solve the problem.

Make too much to get a subsidy.

but the R Gov who recently took over trashed the program, It was one of the better state plans going for a while. They called it some other name so Obamaphobes would not be influenced by the name.

I find it hard to believe this woman looked very hard for insurance. That, or she didn't know what she was looking for.....her husband can't add her to his policy for less than $600 a month? When my wife retired about five years ago she was paying $50 a week to keep me on her insurance. United Health I believe. Normal shit $15 co-pay at the doctor $45 for a specialist. Hospitalization, hell it was fairly good insurance. BTW Beatyville is only 50 miles southeast of where I live. I smell BS about her insurance. I believe she heard it on hate radio, or Fox. A lot of folks think that shopping for insurance is too hard, (maybe this lady was too lazy to look for affordable insurance) but up until the republican administration two years ago we had what were called Kynectors, that helped you fill out the forms, helped find your best deal etc......her story smells fishy.

Knowing all that you imparted, I think the fishy smell is a good call.

Watching Fox News, which has brain washed them so thoroughly that they don't know any longer the difference between truth and lies... the Sheeple who watch Fox News are hooked mentally and told how to think and what to say... and when it affects them personally they learn to blame it on Democrats, people of color and non Christians.

If Alabama and Virginia taught us anything it’s that. Who cares about Trump voters?

find work here. Bunch of young men sitting around agree there are no jobs here
"If you want nature this is the place "then talks of economic struggles. Can't have it all and expect the world of opportunity to come knock on your door.
Maybe they need to talk to some recent immigrants to this country that they hate so much for some simple life tips. Yes it means some movement and sacrifice and adapting to your new place where the jobs are . Beats crying and meth addiction

During the Great Depression, people loaded all their belongings in their jalopies and traversed the country, looking for work. College grads these days look for good jobs, and move wherever those jobs are. It's what we humans do, to make a living.