explains the plans George asked about? I can't find that anywhere.

Go to it and read it. Bernie has a plan and knows how it will be paid for in detail. I am tired of people saying this is pie in the sky and no one says how it will be funded. Bernie says how it will be funded. It is time for America to join the rest of the industrialized world and have affordable and effective National Health Insurance.

As a small business man I pay for health care four times. 1) health insurance.2)wokman’s Comp- a big part is based on health care.3) General liability insurance-a huge component is based on covering health costs. 4)commercial vehicle insurance- a big component is based on health costs. On top of that, we already pay taxes that go for the health insurance for the parts of our population that the insurance companies don’t find profitable- old people and poor people. On top of that, I already pay for people who don’t have health insurance by being charged higher prices from hospitals and doctors who spread out what they can’t collect onto those of us that can.

Ignoring all of that, my understanding is that as a country, we already pay twice what other industrialized countries pay. That’s on top of all of the other ways that I am charged for health insurance.

If that’s not enough, think of all of the money that’s lost through the ltagation process trying to decide who is liable for health insurance costs as a result of accidents.

Plus, how can our US industries compete with foreign companies who don’t bare the responsibility of health care?

Plus the distributed social cost of medical cost induced bankruptcy.

Plus the social cost of people who are sick continuing to go to work and spreading infection. Logic dictates that the restaurant industry would be the worst example of this paradigm.

Plus, what the fuck kind of country do you want to live in?

That's how Canada got its Ponies

A single payer health care system would be good for business. As other posters have noted, the cost of health care for businesses is very large, time consuming, and cumbersome. If I ran a business, I would not want to spend time, money and energy on employee health care. Rather, I would want to focus my resources on building my business.

If we can take health care out of private hands and do Medicare for All through the Federal government, it would free businesses from having to provide heath care. Administrative costs and profiteering would be cut out of the system, making it much cheaper.

So, we should try to recruit support for single payer in the business community. Medicare for All is cheaper, good for the people, and good for business. A win-win. I think that the only people who oppose it are the insurance industry, big pharma, and their supporters.