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Rhiannon12866

(206,072 posts) Sat Jun 23, 2018, 01:28 AM Jun 2018

Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - 6/22/18

Monologue: President Hold My Beer

Bill recaps the top stories of the week, including Donald Trump's flip-flop on his child detention policy and Melania's fashion fiasco.

Colion Noir: Gun Nuts

NRA TV's Colion Noir joins Bill to discuss America's gun obsession.

Michael Pollan: Psychedelic Science

Professor and author Michael Pollan joins Bill to discuss his latest book: "How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence."

New Rule: The Good Sex Economy

In his editorial New Rule, Bill reiterates that economic recessions are survivable events; what Trump is doing to this country is not.

Political Alliances, Gun Laws, Mental Health | Overtime

Bill and his Real Time panelists – Colion Noir, Michael Smerconish, Neera Tanden, Josh Barro, and Michael Pollan – answer viewer questions after the show.

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Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - 6/22/18 (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jun 2018 OP

Best line regarding the Jacket: "When has Melania ever known what is going on behind her back?" Pachamama Jun 2018 #1

He really did a great job tonight - but the jacket incident was just made for comedians! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2018 #2

Colion Noir implies people fear that AR-15 because it's big. A radiologist described the wounds ... Jim__ Jun 2018 #3

I remembered that, too. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2018 #4

I don't have a problem with him having people on that he disagrees with. Jim__ Jun 2018 #5

And he's a good one Rhiannon12866 Jun 2018 #6

I didn't want to watch his segment, but couldn't avoid his obnoxiousness on Overtime stuffmatters Jun 2018 #7

I admit that I haven't watched Overtime yet. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2018 #9

I agree with this. I love Bill, but he lets some of the worst spew their junk w/out informed counter stuffmatters Jun 2018 #8

Thanks Rhiannon! smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #10

He did kinda stick out like a sore thumb, didn't he? Rhiannon12866 Jun 2018 #11

All Bill had to do was read the idiotic/hateful tweets from the RW crowd in response Boomerproud Jun 2018 #12

I turned off CNN when they cut away from a live speech by John Kerry Rhiannon12866 Jun 2018 #13

Last night was a great ep! I love how the two RWers on the panel had BOTH quit the GOP Dennis Donovan Jun 2018 #14

We're seeing more and more of those every day Rhiannon12866 Jun 2018 #15

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)

1. Best line regarding the Jacket: "When has Melania ever known what is going on behind her back?"

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2018, 03:59 AM

Jun 2018

And second best:

regarding caring about the kids she visited at the detention center:

"This is not the first feeling that she has faked...."

Rhiannon12866

(206,072 posts)

2. He really did a great job tonight - but the jacket incident was just made for comedians!

Reply to Pachamama (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 23, 2018, 04:17 AM

Jun 2018

That's one thing about Trump - the comedians never run out of material!

Jim__

(14,083 posts)

3. Colion Noir implies people fear that AR-15 because it's big. A radiologist described the wounds ...

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2018, 06:03 AM

Jun 2018

... from an AR-15.

From an article in The Atlantic, What I Saw Treating the Victims From Parkland Should Change the Debate on Guns:

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Routine handgun injuries leave entry and exit wounds and linear tracks through the victim’s body that are roughly the size of the bullet. If the bullet does not directly hit something crucial like the heart or the aorta, and the victim does not bleed to death before being transported to our care at the trauma center, chances are that we can save him. The bullets fired by an AR-15 are different: They travel at a higher velocity and are far more lethal than routine bullets fired from a handgun. The damage they cause is a function of the energy they impart as they pass through the body. A typical AR-15 bullet leaves the barrel traveling almost three times faster than—and imparting more than three times the energy of—a typical 9mm bullet from a handgun. An AR-15 rifle outfitted with a magazine with 50 rounds allows many more lethal bullets to be delivered quickly without reloading.

I have seen a handful of AR-15 injuries in my career. Years ago I saw one from a man shot in the back by a SWAT team. The injury along the path of the bullet from an AR-15 is vastly different from a low-velocity handgun injury. The bullet from an AR-15 passes through the body like a cigarette boat traveling at maximum speed through a tiny canal. The tissue next to the bullet is elastic—moving away from the bullet like waves of water displaced by the boat—and then returns and settles back. This process is called cavitation; it leaves the displaced tissue damaged or killed. The high-velocity bullet causes a swath of tissue damage that extends several inches from its path. It does not have to actually hit an artery to damage it and cause catastrophic bleeding. Exit wounds can be the size of an orange.

With an AR-15, the shooter does not have to be particularly accurate. The victim does not have to be unlucky. If a victim takes a direct hit to the liver from an AR-15, the damage is far graver than that of a simple handgun-shot injury. Handgun injuries to the liver are generally survivable unless the bullet hits the main blood supply to the liver. An AR-15 bullet wound to the middle of the liver would cause so much bleeding that the patient would likely never make it to the trauma center to receive our care.

One of my ER colleagues was waiting nervously for his own children outside the school. While the shooting was still in progress, the first responders were gathering up victims whenever they could and carrying them outside the building. Even as a physician trained in trauma situations, there was nothing he could do at the scene to help save the victims who had been shot with the AR-15. Most of them died on the spot; they had no fighting chance at life.

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The AR-15 is a particularly lethal weapon, and that is not just nonsense based on the ignorance of liberals.

Rhiannon12866

(206,072 posts)

4. I remembered that, too.

Reply to Jim__ (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 23, 2018, 06:08 AM

Jun 2018

And I was also surprised that Bill wasn't a whole lot tougher on him, but then he admitted his ignorance about guns (though he could have done research) and he tends to give too many passes for guests on his show he disagrees with. Considering what's been going on in this country, I'm actually baffled he'd have this guy on now at all.

Jim__

(14,083 posts)

5. I don't have a problem with him having people on that he disagrees with.

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 23, 2018, 06:21 AM

Jun 2018

But he really should either research the topic, or have someone on who can speak intelligently to the claims being made. I got the impression that Colion Noir is just a front-man for the NRA.

Rhiannon12866

(206,072 posts)

6. And he's a good one

Reply to Jim__ (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 23, 2018, 06:43 AM

Jun 2018

He didn't come off as the typical "gun nut," to use Bill Maher's words. He was reasonable, well spoken - exactly the type of representative who could convince those who aren't paying attention that the NRA is not all that bad.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)

7. I didn't want to watch his segment, but couldn't avoid his obnoxiousness on Overtime

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 23, 2018, 07:27 AM

Jun 2018

I've seen him before & don't see any difference between him and other NRA/RW shills. Esp deaf and pedantically condescending to Nedra during his RW obligatory talking over, hogging/loading the segment with bullshit performance on Overtime. Probably gets paid per word by the NRA.

Such a good show otherwise. Thanks again, Rhiannon! Your Maher postings are so kind to us who don't get HBO.

Rhiannon12866

(206,072 posts)

9. I admit that I haven't watched Overtime yet.

Reply to stuffmatters (Reply #7)

Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:04 AM

Jun 2018

But I didn't feel like yelling at this guy or compelled to change the TV channel during his interview like I would if it was Wayne LaPierre or the real "gun nuts" that you see on the news or in clips on The Daily Show. But then Bill didn't really confront him like I expected. And I'm usually glad when the first guest, if it's one of the RWers Bill likes to include, participates in Overtime where s/he faces what's usually other liberal guests. I'm disappointed he didn't get his comeuppance. But like I said, he was a cool one.

And I agree this one of his better shows, not like there's been any shortage of material lately. At least he hasn't felt compelled to include RWers as much as he used to, Rick Santorum comes to mind. And I just couldn't watch Ann Coulter. I remember when, back in the day, I appreciated when DUers would post Bill Maher, but it never lasted long. So I figured it out.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)

8. I agree with this. I love Bill, but he lets some of the worst spew their junk w/out informed counter

Reply to Jim__ (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 23, 2018, 07:41 AM

Jun 2018

Front man, yeah, I believe this guest even has a show on NRA TV. or does video diatribes for them.

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)

10. Thanks Rhiannon!

Reply to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:20 AM

Jun 2018

WTF was Colion Noir doing on that show? He was a disaster! God, I hate gun humpers!

I loved Neera Tanden and Michael Pollan.

Rhiannon12866

(206,072 posts)

11. He did kinda stick out like a sore thumb, didn't he?

Reply to smirkymonkey (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:39 AM

Jun 2018

And I didn't think Bill was nearly tough enough with him.

Though overall I think it was a really good show, but like I keep saying, there's been no shortage of material!