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Related: About this forumBikers for Trump head whines about Harley leaving US -- but says he won't pay more to buy American
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/bikers-trump-head-whines-harley-leaving-us-says-wont-pay-buy-american/
Wounded Bear
(58,706 posts)except for maybe some of the high end touring Hondas and Kawasakis.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)a six-figure income. Not your average blue-collar worker.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,600 posts)But sheesh, Louise, those things cost. Bigly.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,600 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Add in uncomfortable and in the shop on a weekly basis.
Very luxurious, indeed.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,600 posts)I don't know the big bike market.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)Polaris (very large snowmobile maker) created Victory in the 1990s and started making fake Harleys. In 2012 they bought the rights to the old Indian brand and started making fake Harleys. By 2014, it was clear people preferred their fake Harleys to say "Indian" on the side than to say "Victory," so in 2017 they closed down the Victory line. The Victory website is still up, but now all they sell is parts.
ooky
(8,929 posts)that they are studying moving their manufacturing from Iowa to Poland for the same reason Harley is - Trump's tariff war.
https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/news/2018/06/26/polaris-motorcycles-may-follow-harley-davidson-out.html
riversedge
(70,299 posts)Ohioboy
(3,243 posts)Where some guy, who really isn't qualified, is given center stage to expound on a subject he really knows little about. This "Biker for Trump" says "we certainly would all agree that under the leadership of Donald Trump the trend has been bringing jobs back". Yet, he gives no evidence to his claim. Really? I mean WTF. I guess because he rides a Harley he qualified for this interview? Things are a little more complex than these "Joe The Plumber" types can even imagine. Why do we give people like this a stage.
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/trump-jobs-returning-because-of-me/
Racerdog1
(808 posts)That is what happened to Harley-Davidson. They started catering to the wannabe crowd, most of these dumbasses don't know a screwdriver from hammer. See these POS bastards at dealerships to get the oil changed, real bikers NOT!
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)He drank the Kool-aid. That says it all.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)and ignorance of ameriKKKans for the potus has finally been shown to the whole world. Always been in the hid in the swamps backwoods, suburbia, 'gentrified' area's in big cities, toilets and sewers of amerika. And always hidden pretty good with outbursts every once in a while, like a shooting of a black child who just playing in the park, probably cowboys and indians, cause the 11 year old had a toy gun and was executed within 1.2 second of the cowardly police arriving. There was one killed because he wanted some Skittles and Arizona tea, there was the hanging of a woman for a traffic violation in Texas, choking a man to death on the street in New York, shooting and killing a man for jay walking, buying a toy gun at walmart. You know, everyday racism like that. But now, the kidnapping of babies and children from their parents should be the straw that breaks the back of this racist pig in the WH.
I doubt it. Since the killing of unarmed black people wasn't enough for most americans to get truly disgusted enough to speak out about, like they are with the people and their kidnapped children who were looking for asylum from the terror of their countries at our southern border. There was the Katrina non-response by another repthugliKKKan, Puerto Rico hurricane response by this potus POS stinking up the WH now? Not much help happened there. These victims were americans, brown americans I know, but americans nonetheless Both soon faded from sight and mind.
It's been the slow destruction, since nixon and atwater, of the democratic paradigm in favor of a racist/fascist one that has culminated, so far, with the ameriKKKan KKKristian racists and their gods choice for potus.
So we'll see. Won't we.
weissmam
(905 posts)keeping jobs here , yes in renewable energy , oh yea OOPS
JI7
(89,264 posts)in the industry ?
Perseus
(4,341 posts)Where is the proof that "jobs are coming back to America"? Also, what makes "Harley Davidson owners the most patriotic people in the World?" just because they drive a HD? What a bunch of bull! Why doesn't she challenge him on all that crap?
This is part of the big problem, the media allows these people to spew stupidity and doesn't challenge them, if you make a statement you should have the proof to back it up, and the media just lets them talk...it is a problem because to the uneducated fanatic, the biker will sound like a genius if left unchallenged.
ooky
(8,929 posts)In the CNN clip Trump said Harley is using this as an excuse for production they were planning to move overseas, that they told him about back in January. That's a lie.
The truth is the 40,000 motorcycles for the European market were going to be part of a plant closure in Kansas City, and those were going to be moved to HD's York, Pa manufacturing facility. That was the plan before the tariff increased from 6% to 31%. This link tells about the original announcement in January.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/01/30/harley-davidson-kansas-city-plant-motorcycle-sales-fall/1078008001/
The clown in the CNN clip repeated the same lie as Trump. But he didn't want to pay the $2200 hit HD is getting. This moron apparently thinks HD should just lose $2200 per motorcycle sale just to satisfy these flag wavers.
This lie is something that would have been easy for CNN to check before running the lie in front of the nation. This dishonesty is just unbelievable.
Snellius
(6,881 posts)No matter what the price. There IS no other American bike. Harley Dividson even has a patent no the roar they make.