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Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:54 PM Aug 2012

Hot Particles & Measurement of Radioactivity (Arnie Gundersen & Marco Kaltofen)



The Hot Particle issue will be the big issue as Fukushima moves to the consequences phase.

Articles like this from Koch Brothers funded scientists:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444772404577589270444059332.html
are being posted here and all over the web to insist that Fukushima will have minimum deaths. The WSJ article takes one side of the debate while not even addressing the issue.

Please be aware that this is a huge controversy in health physics and that this is ANYTHING BUT settled science.
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Hot Particles & Measurement of Radioactivity (Arnie Gundersen & Marco Kaltofen) (Original Post) Junkdrawer Aug 2012 OP
We saw one of those minimizing articles on DU a few days ago n/t flamingdem Aug 2012 #1
Once again, the poor people of Japan will participate in one HELL of an experiment... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #2
You'll see that post in the Environment & Energy group on DU flamingdem Aug 2012 #3
Of course. Arnie is one of my heroes on this issue.... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #4

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
2. Once again, the poor people of Japan will participate in one HELL of an experiment...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:16 PM
Aug 2012

and a significant portion of the scientific community seems hell-bent to say:

"Science proves that only X could have cancers from Fukushima, therefore any other excess cancer must have come from stress and/or chemical contamination from the Tsunami."

Science - if you elevate one side of the debate to certainty.

flamingdem

(39,332 posts)
3. You'll see that post in the Environment & Energy group on DU
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:07 PM
Aug 2012

I commented that they are trying to get the propaganda out now so people excuse the nuke biz and they know it will take years, or decades to see the true damage Fukushima will reek on Japan.

Arnie Gundersen is one of the only people telling the truth about the impact of radiation on health and if you post about him there is always a crew that slimes his credentials.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
4. Of course. Arnie is one of my heroes on this issue....
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:41 PM
Aug 2012

I've been exposed to the issue for a LONG time. It's a difficult issue because it's SO easy to swing from one extreme of certainty to another. Arnie is extra careful to walk the razor's edge. And you can tell Arnie is more interested in saving lives than being right.

What I don't have time for is people who defend industry interests while presenting themselves as the arbiters of truth. They can burn in hell.

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