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How President Tyler, born in 1790, still has two living grandsons (Original Post) CatWoman Sep 2018 OP
What an amazing story! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2018 #1
That is amazing! Liberty Belle Sep 2018 #15
We did talk to our parents and grandparents, but not enough. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2018 #16
My parents and grand parents never talked about our history. alfredo Sep 2018 #20
They may have had some trauma they didn't want to revisit. Liberty Belle Sep 2018 #21
I think there was a rift between the American and German branches. alfredo Sep 2018 #22
Bless the second wives...LOL. n/t monmouth4 Sep 2018 #2
I see this story every couple of years and it always fascinates me. Bleacher Creature Sep 2018 #3
And he was born in 1790 while GW was President (1789-1797). appalachiablue Sep 2018 #7
Amazing story, thanks. OnDoutside Sep 2018 #4
Amazing! The Genealogist Sep 2018 #5
I had Warren Harding III as my physician a while back.But this is really cool :D flygal Sep 2018 #6
Unfortuantely, he was one of our very worst - and most reactionary - presidents. sandensea Sep 2018 #8
that may be the reason(s) his descendants have no interest at all in politics CatWoman Sep 2018 #9
They seem like very nice people. sandensea Sep 2018 #10
Good thing we can learn from our parents' mistakes. kag Sep 2018 #12
Thanks for sharing that, kag. sandensea Sep 2018 #14
I remember when Grandpa used to talk flotsam Sep 2018 #11
The other grandson, John in Feb. 2012. There's a video appalachiablue Sep 2018 #13
That is wild! Dennis Donovan Sep 2018 #17
Similar but not the same as my family. no_hypocrisy Sep 2018 #18
Interesting. But I call BS on the ghost image in the stairwell... CTyankee Sep 2018 #19

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,627 posts)
1. What an amazing story!
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:21 PM
Sep 2018

And the best part? It's TRUE.

The video's just over 2 and a half minutes long.....you won't be sorry if you watch it.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
15. That is amazing!
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:28 AM
Sep 2018

He was 65 when one of his children was born, and that child was 75 when his son, who is still living, was born.

It is amazing to have grandchildren of someone born in 1790 still living.

As perspective, I'm 61. My grandfather and grandmother on one side were born in 1899 and 1909. But they married young; Grandma was only 17. My grandparents on the other side would've been a little bit older, but not much.

I always wish grandpa, my mom's dad, hadn't died when I was still a kid. I'd have loved to have heard his stories. He was a cowboy on the Chisolm trail, and he and my grandma lost their farm during the Depression. (Mom can remember the Dustbowl). Grandpa's parents were pioneers who traveled via covered wagon, and his mother was part Cherokee. My Grandma can remember her grandfather coming to visit; he was a Civil War veteran and had an elderly paid servant who had once been a slave for someone else.

All of my great-grandparents died before I was born. My great-grandparents on Dad's side died in the Holocaust. My grandma worked in a garment factory when she first came here. Grandpa ran a scrap metal yard in Detroit. His brother was only survivor when his village in Europe was burned; a soldier found him (he was 11) and hid him in a haywagon, then told him to stow away on a ship and come to America, which he did.

Talk to your parents and grandparents -- you will be amazed at some of the stories they can tell.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,627 posts)
16. We did talk to our parents and grandparents, but not enough.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:41 AM
Sep 2018

I am 74 and now in the older generation! Omigod!

We have undated photos and letters, and no information on them at all. Some of this stuff I didn't see till both my parents were gone. I have no idea why they didn't want to talk about their history, but they didn't.

So we proceed along as best we can. I think my children are more aware of our lives than I was of my parents'.

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
20. My parents and grand parents never talked about our history.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 10:03 PM
Sep 2018

They were like a library that never opened.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
21. They may have had some trauma they didn't want to revisit.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 11:03 PM
Sep 2018

My uncle, who was gassed in WWII, was like that. He'd never talk about his war experiences.

i had a friend whose parents never talked about their past or any family. My friend thought they had no living relatives. After they died, a relative tracked them down and they learned there was a very large family; the couple had eloped because her parents didn't approve of him. So after losing her parents, my friend gained a whole new family.

alfredo

(60,074 posts)
22. I think there was a rift between the American and German branches.
Thu Sep 20, 2018, 10:23 PM
Sep 2018

It was post WW ll and our German relatives were hoping to get money and clothes from us. At first we helped, but we weren’t rich. We had to cut them off. The decision was made by our matriarch. I called her, “granny.”

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
3. I see this story every couple of years and it always fascinates me.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:39 PM
Sep 2018

He was President before Lincoln. Crazy!

appalachiablue

(41,140 posts)
7. And he was born in 1790 while GW was President (1789-1797).
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:23 PM
Sep 2018

The first US president d. 1799 and Tyler surely remembered him.

My mother's grandparents were born during the Civil War, and lived through the Second World War, until the late 1940s. My older sibling met them as a toddler but I wasn't so lucky.

Mom also told us that as a young girl she saw the old Civil War veterans gathered for events in Philly and Richmond.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
5. Amazing!
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:45 PM
Sep 2018

Closest I can come to this kind of a connection to the past was when I went to my step great-grandmother's 101st birthday in 2009. Her father was quite old when she was born, and had been in the US Civil War.

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
8. Unfortuantely, he was one of our very worst - and most reactionary - presidents.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:48 PM
Sep 2018

He was a staunch advocate of slavery, a major profiteer from the practice, and basically believed he should be dictator.

Tyler vetoed the creation of a National Bank, probably in exchange for a fat bribe from private bankers - thus helping create the cartelized megabank problem we have today.

He also legalized ad hoc (gunpoint) land seizures in the West, often from native peoples. This touched off a wave of not only Native American massacres (already a problem when he took office); but also helped foster the Mad Max-style lawlessness that would typify the Old West for decades to come.

Years later, when the Civil war broke out, he became a Confederate congressman. He died in 1862, as a traitor to his country.

These days, of course, he'd definitely be a Trumpkin.

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
10. They seem like very nice people.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:12 PM
Sep 2018

Must be fascinating to have such a historical lineage.

Past my great-great grandparents, I myself have no idea who my forbears were. They were from Northern Italy, Poland, Spain, and France - that's all I know.

kag

(4,079 posts)
12. Good thing we can learn from our parents' mistakes.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 07:49 PM
Sep 2018

My father was a right winger. He passed before Cheetoh came along, but if he hadn't he would have owned a MAGA hat, probably several. He was a racist, misogynist, religious hypocrite who could never admit he was wrong about anything.

My three brothers and I are all liberal Democrats. They all found it in their hearts to forgive my dad, but I still struggle with it. (He died four years ago.) I just thank heavens we were all smart enough to see his hypocrisy, and not follow in his footsteps.

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
14. Thanks for sharing that, kag.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:22 PM
Sep 2018

I'm sorry about your father. Lots of memories no doubt.

My grandparents were also somewhat right-wing. Actually, my paternal grandparents were (my maternal grandparents were pretty middle-of-the-road).

My paternal grandfather, God rest him, was a failed businessman who never lived up to his own father's expectations (great-grandfather died wealthy) and instead tried making up for it by ingratiating himself with Chamber of Commerce types (all rabid right-wingers). He smoked himself to death, poor man.

He made my grandmother very miserable. She never really recovered emotionally - even 20 years after he died. She's gone as well (all my grandparents are now, I'm sorry to say).

A common tale, I'm sure.

Above all, All the Best to you and yours. We can only look forward.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
11. I remember when Grandpa used to talk
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:23 PM
Sep 2018

about some old friend he named Tipped-the-Canoe.....I guess after a camping trip or something...

appalachiablue

(41,140 posts)
13. The other grandson, John in Feb. 2012. There's a video
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 07:49 PM
Sep 2018

interview of the two brothers who said when asked about new Pres. Obama, 'he's a very intelligent, elegant president.' I can't find the video on YT.

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
18. Similar but not the same as my family.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:08 AM
Sep 2018

My great grandmother was born in 1838, when Abraham Lincoln was 29.

My grandfather, her son was born in 1877.

My father was born when my grandfather was 45+. (There was a gap of 19+ years between Dad and his elder sister.)

I was born when my father was 34.

No second wives, etc. Just late births.

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