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Pic Of The Moment: Not This Shit Again (Original Post) EarlG Oct 2018 OP
The Haves and the Have Nots djacq Oct 2018 #1
its building ... yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #8
Fucking the masses is what the Republicans do. It's who they are. Cyrano Oct 2018 #2
"Millions of Americans don't get this." In a nutshell! hostalover Oct 2018 #7
The party of Greed. yuiyoshida Oct 2018 #9
This thing passing as a human being is a disciple of Satan . geretogo Oct 2018 #3
Time to terminate Racerdog1 Oct 2018 #4
Social Security is self funded watoos Oct 2018 #5
the CONs are debt-funded Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2018 #6
Until the Fed has to pay back the T-Bills MiniMe Oct 2018 #10
that doesn't change the original thought ProfessorPlum Oct 2018 #17
Agree, but they don't have the money to pay it back now, unless they borrow it from somewhere else MiniMe Oct 2018 #18
US Treasury bonds ARE money ProfessorPlum Oct 2018 #20
Yes, but the government started borrowing against it MiniMe Oct 2018 #21
There is no problem ProfessorPlum Oct 2018 #25
As I've posted several times..1 TRILLION added to the ND in just 8 months 18 days this year... Bengus81 Oct 2018 #11
And the elderly vote for them lame54 Oct 2018 #12
i hope this changes to the elderly used to vote for them. lark Oct 2018 #14
Racism vs security... lame54 Oct 2018 #22
If there was a god hell would overflow republican liars & thieves rickyhall Oct 2018 #13
Repeal and replace the Trump/McConnell tax bill bronxiteforever Oct 2018 #15
Bingo dalton99a Oct 2018 #30
Crooks JonLP24 Oct 2018 #16
It's only just begun! Fritz Walter Oct 2018 #19
Mcturdmouth Racerdog1 Oct 2018 #23
K&R Scurrilous Oct 2018 #24
Motherfucking bag of shit! smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #26
Republicans still befuddled that trickle-down not working. Beartracks Oct 2018 #27
I'm tired of this crap. We need to take back the country or we'll have people dying... Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #28
K&R Gothmog Oct 2018 #29
We have an entitlement class - the billionaires. Initech Oct 2018 #31

Cyrano

(15,057 posts)
2. Fucking the masses is what the Republicans do. It's who they are.
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 12:09 PM
Oct 2018

At least, that's what I've seen in my lifetime. IMO, Republicans are not part of the same species as the rest of us. They are predators who will pounce on anyone who has more than them. And they will take anything and everything else they can lay their hands on.

Yet, millions of Americans don't get this. They don't understand that they are being victimized by Republicans. They don't understand that Republicans will fuck them out of everything they have in an instant.

This is the party of "values." This is the party that peddles the crap that "God is an American."

As a devout agnostic, I have no idea whether or not there's a "god." But it seems to me that if such a being existed, he/she/it sure as hell wouldn't be a Republican. -- But who knows? We may be living in a totally fucked up version of reality.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,413 posts)
6. the CONs are debt-funded
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 12:49 PM
Oct 2018

The RepubliCON party is the biggest contributor to the debt. Therefore, instead of robbing the elderly and sick, let's tax the CONs' salaries and benefits and pensions at 100% until the national debt is retired.

A good, sound business solution.

MiniMe

(21,718 posts)
10. Until the Fed has to pay back the T-Bills
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 01:23 PM
Oct 2018

They borrowed from the SS fund. When they have to pay it back, it will hit the debt.

ProfessorPlum

(11,276 posts)
17. that doesn't change the original thought
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 02:30 PM
Oct 2018

that SS is self-funding. Those bonds are assets that SS owns, which it can (and will) use to fund itself. But they were bought with the cash coming in from Social Security. Self-funded.

ProfessorPlum

(11,276 posts)
20. US Treasury bonds ARE money
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 03:04 PM
Oct 2018

Social Security is forbidden by law to build up a pile of cash, and instead has to invest that money (which was created by the Tip O'Neil/Ronald Reagan compromise in the early 80s to solve SS's baby boomer funding gap (by sticking it to working people, naturally)) in these special bonds.

I would _love_ to be sitting on top of a pile of US Bonds, wouldn't you?

When you say "They" you mean the federal government, and not the social security program, right? Because Social Security is self-funded. The US government is welcome to get the money to pay SS from wherever they would like, it isn't SS's problem and it isn't the widows, orphans, blind people, disabled people, or retired people's problem. BECAUSE SS HAS ALREADY FUNDED ITSELF and continues to do so.

Social Security is self-funding. Get it into your brain and bloodstream.

MiniMe

(21,718 posts)
21. Yes, but the government started borrowing against it
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 03:07 PM
Oct 2018

That is where the problem will come in, paying back the debt that is owed SS. The money is there and invested, but where they invested it is the problem now

ProfessorPlum

(11,276 posts)
25. There is no problem
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 07:18 PM
Oct 2018

The government has to pay off those bonds just like it has to pay off the millions of other bond holders that hold our trillions in national debt. Bonds are one of the safest investments. The only way there is a problem is if the US stops paying all of its debts, in which case the country is over. And then SS will be the least of our problems.

The only problem SS has is if America ceases to be. Or you let some lying politician steal it from you. You aren't going to let that happen, are you?

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
11. As I've posted several times..1 TRILLION added to the ND in just 8 months 18 days this year...
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 01:34 PM
Oct 2018

All because of that tax give away to Trumps Corporate masters and the RICH. I don't know if that time frame is a record but that's damn fast to add ONE TRILLION $$$$ IMO.

lark

(23,155 posts)
14. i hope this changes to the elderly used to vote for them.
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 02:10 PM
Oct 2018

Any elderly person who votes for these Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security thieves is truly an ignorant deplorable. Hopefully those are passing or have become more educated. I have an elderly repug friend who is all in, except on this one issue. She hates Rick Scott because of what he did and will hate her congressmen and Senators as well if they do this. She thinks they just say this when they can't get it done and wouldn't really pass it without Democrats on board, I think she's deceiving herself. Lucky for her she has some money stashed away from when she was a small business operator, so it won't hurt her as bad. It would totally devastate me and most of the working class over 62.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
13. If there was a god hell would overflow republican liars & thieves
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 02:10 PM
Oct 2018

May McCONNel would get the deepest pit. Sorry Son of a Bitch!

Fritz Walter

(4,292 posts)
19. It's only just begun!
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 02:56 PM
Oct 2018

The RepubliCONs are already promising more and bigger tax cuts after the mid-term elections. That’s how they — including baby donnie — get the 1%-ers (read: beneficiaries of this wealth redistribution ponzie scheme) to bankroll their campaigns.

We must get out the vote in 2 weeks, 6 days. If not before via mail ballots and early polls.

 

Racerdog1

(808 posts)
23. Mcturdmouth
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 03:48 PM
Oct 2018

And his side kick Eddie Munster have to be the most hated fuckers in the country. They should be hounded and harassed anytime they dare go out in public.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
27. Republicans still befuddled that trickle-down not working.
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 07:59 PM
Oct 2018

Oh that's right - it's not supposed to, not for regular Americans. As a massive transfer of wealth to the rich, it works great; but then it's not really trickle DOWN, is it? But, it's that way by design: by the rich, for the rich.

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
28. I'm tired of this crap. We need to take back the country or we'll have people dying...
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 09:42 PM
Oct 2018

in the streets while people like McConnell say "Let them eat cake."

Initech

(100,101 posts)
31. We have an entitlement class - the billionaires.
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:38 AM
Oct 2018

And they *ALWAYS* think they are entitled to more money and it's never enough. Go eat a bag of shit, Mitch.

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