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"Senator Flake Destroys Trump In Correspondents' Dinner Speech" on YouTube (Original Post) Duppers Nov 2018 OP
Watergate lessons. Nixon et al, screwed so many, on Nixon's way up, empedocles Nov 2018 #1
What a great and Honorable Republican! True Blue American Nov 2018 #2
If only his actions matched his words Perseus Nov 2018 #3
I have no use for him. He's a fake. A fraud. All talk, for show. Sound familiar? Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #4
Doing the filibuster 2 step onit2day Nov 2018 #10
Fuck Flake Cartoonist Nov 2018 #5
Exactly. zanana1 Nov 2018 #8
The title should have been, watoos Nov 2018 #6
Agreed. Duppers Nov 2018 #15
Too late amcgrath Nov 2018 #7
When people awaken to the cult they serve it is confusing but his direction finally says enough onit2day Nov 2018 #11
The beginning was so boring and lame I didn't continue on to the "destruction." Nitram Nov 2018 #9
When he said "But let me get serious here for a second..." forgotmylogin Nov 2018 #13
Exactly. Nitram Nov 2018 #17
Seems Flake is setting up for a 2020 run. juxtaposed Nov 2018 #12
"Search for truth"? czarjak Nov 2018 #14
Indeed! Duppers Nov 2018 #16

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
1. Watergate lessons. Nixon et al, screwed so many, on Nixon's way up,
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:39 AM
Nov 2018

the so many, helped bid adieu Nixon et al, as Watergate unraveled.

True Blue American

(17,992 posts)
2. What a great and Honorable Republican!
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:02 AM
Nov 2018

Even praised his successor. Not to worry, Jeff will be fine. He is still fighting his Party to save Mueller. Let is see how many Republican Senators will back him.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
3. If only his actions matched his words
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:46 AM
Nov 2018

He has voted along party lines, so he should ask himself "Are you loyal to your country or your party", those are his own words.

Talk is cheap, no matter how beautiful and how much truth it carries, but actions speak louder than words.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
4. I have no use for him. He's a fake. A fraud. All talk, for show. Sound familiar?
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:51 AM
Nov 2018

He talks a good game (sometimes). He says things that seem balanced and sensible. But when push comes to shove, he votes along Trump lines.

He did the same thing, leading up to the ACA Republican vote. Then when it came to it, he voted like the other Republicans. He did the same thing regarding Kavanaugh. He made some reasonable noises, then voted for him. Twice. Ensuring that Trump has one more way to get off scot-free from any crimes he may have done.

Flake likes to sound reasonable. He gets air time for it, because it's so unusual for a Republican. But then he votes like the other ones. So in some ways, he's worse, because he's not honest with his positions on things.

He loves the media attention he gets for it, as the country wonders "How's Flake going to vote?" It's all a game to get national attention, because Flake votes along Trumperism lines, along with the rest of them.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. The title should have been,
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:16 AM
Nov 2018

Flake destroys his Republican colleagues. I get it that Flake did more talking than acting as Senator to what was right. Flake didn't have enough courage to do more. I for one appreciate the small stands he took even though he voted with the herd. I once served on a borough council in a small town. I bucked city hall to do what was right for our town. We had mafiosa-type people who were on the other side. I spent many sleepless nights but knew what I was doing was right. If there was that kind of pressure on me in a small rural town I can imagine the pressure on a Senator to do the right thing. Flake had the courage to speak up, at times, but didn't have the courage to turn into the herd.

Flake's speech is but a small light shining in the darkness, but it is a light. Flake's speech will anger Trump, and that is good. Flake's speech may give some of his colleagues pause when our Constitutional crisis hits us and that is good. Flake didn't have the courage to run against the herd so went off to his desert island, that may be observed as copping out but it did give us someone who isn't afraid to run toward the herd.

His backing of Jim Acosta was also positive, he pretty much had to go there at a correspondence dinner, but I am worried about why it is taking so long for a judge to decide Acosta's fate. I am surprised at the number of people who are not defending Jim Acosta. I am old enough to remember the days of Helen Thomas. JFK said of Helen, she is a nice girl if she'd only get rid of that pad and pencil. I remember the day that Helen asked W. what are the real reasons we went into Iraq, was it for oil, or for Israel? The days of Helen Thomas are long gone and I hope that the days of Jim Acosta are not also gone.

amcgrath

(397 posts)
7. Too late
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:51 AM
Nov 2018

Flake has embarked on this phoney self absolution, knowing that otherwise he is doomed to be associated with this administration.

Other politicians will very soon be jumping ship to do the same - they've looked at the midterm results and see the writing on the wall.

Flakes words - like other republicans - don't mean a thing. His character is revealed through his voting record.

So when he starts popping up as a pundit or Washington insider, remember. He is not a man of principle. He's a crook turned informer.

- hilarious joke about being faced with rape and assault victims in that elevator by the way - what a piece of shit

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
11. When people awaken to the cult they serve it is confusing but his direction finally says enough
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 02:51 PM
Nov 2018

forgotmylogin

(7,533 posts)
13. When he said "But let me get serious here for a second..."
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:22 PM
Nov 2018

I was like "Yeah, catch up, Jeff. Read the room."

czarjak

(11,298 posts)
14. "Search for truth"?
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:03 PM
Nov 2018

Like Devil’s Triangle is a drinking game, Renate Alumni isn’t a boast of your high school sexual conquests? Those truths, Jeffie?

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