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TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts) Mon Dec 10, 2018, 04:00 PM Dec 2018

I Have Only One Thing To Say About GM's 'Move' To Electric Cars...

FUCK YOU!

TWENTY TWO YEARS AGO you made the FIRST electric car to be produced by a major auto company and you BLEW IT!

-California passed a law that all the big auto companies would have to sell just 2% electric by 1998 if they wanted to sell in California. (Yay for California!)

-GM complied, by making the EV1 in 1996, but HEDGED their bets by working to overthrow the government and the law.

-They succeeded. They took back all the EV1s they had leased, CRUSHED EVERY ONE OF THEM, tore up the plans and research, and went back to manufacturing gas guzzlers.

All I can say is FUCK YOU! You HAD your chance twenty two years ago. If you'd kept working on the EV1 since 1996, you'd DOMINATE THE ENTIRE AUTOMOTIVE WORLD by now. You'd have CORNERED the market on electric cars, and been light years ahead of everybody else! Elon Musk would just be a sad little man in a psycho ward in Sacramento, instead of a monolithic monster you have to compete with.

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I Have Only One Thing To Say About GM's 'Move' To Electric Cars... (Original Post) TrollBuster9090 Dec 2018 OP

I doubt Musk would have ended up in a psycho ward if GM had continued with EV berni_mccoy Dec 2018 #1

Yeah, the Musk comment might have been a little hyperbolic. Sorry. :) nt TrollBuster9090 Dec 2018 #3

I have a Volt and I love it. If they could have moved on with the EV1... berni_mccoy Dec 2018 #4

I have no problem with trucks running on gas, diesel, or natural gas. But 90% of one passenger TrollBuster9090 Dec 2018 #5

If I ever get an elec vehicle, it won't be a GM, that's for sure. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #2

Same thing they did with the public transit (trams light rail) in Los Ang: convert to busses. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2018 #6

Exactly! And not just in California. The whole continent tore up their street car tracks TrollBuster9090 Dec 2018 #8

Theres still a lot of EVs arund ghostsinthemachine Dec 2018 #7

That's true, but I'm just scolding GM. They would have dominated the auto industry worldwide TrollBuster9090 Dec 2018 #9

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)

1. I doubt Musk would have ended up in a psycho ward if GM had continued with EV

Reply to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 04:02 PM

Dec 2018

But the rest of what you say I agree with. GM blew it on EV for sure.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)

3. Yeah, the Musk comment might have been a little hyperbolic. Sorry. :) nt

Reply to berni_mccoy (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 04:06 PM

Dec 2018

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)

4. I have a Volt and I love it. If they could have moved on with the EV1...

Reply to TrollBuster9090 (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 04:12 PM

Dec 2018

I can't imagine what would have been the result today.

Too bad GM has discontinued the Volt, but it if is for longer range full-EVs, I hope that they do go this route. Wonder what they will do with their Pickup Truck line...

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)

5. I have no problem with trucks running on gas, diesel, or natural gas. But 90% of one passenger

Reply to berni_mccoy (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 04:19 PM

Dec 2018

...90% of one passenger commuter cars could and should go electric. I'm in the market for one right now. All of those city electric cars could be plugged in when they're not being used, and people could actually make money off of them that way. They can set a timer so that the car is being charged when electricity is cheapest; but also allow electricity to be drawn out of the battery, and put into the electrical grid, when it's most expensive. Van Jones proposed that in his book 'Green Collar Revolution,' but I'm sure it wasn't his idea. It's been around for a long time.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)

2. If I ever get an elec vehicle, it won't be a GM, that's for sure. nt

Reply to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 04:03 PM

Dec 2018

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,018 posts)

6. Same thing they did with the public transit (trams light rail) in Los Ang: convert to busses.

Reply to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 04:21 PM

Dec 2018

And after ripping up the tracks, offer bus systems that don't really solve public transit needs.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)

8. Exactly! And not just in California. The whole continent tore up their street car tracks

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 04:24 PM

Dec 2018

...in the 50s, and moved to buses. And they're all now having to move back to rail transit. Something they HAD and deliberately destroyed thanks to lobbying by corporations.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)

7. Theres still a lot of EVs arund

Reply to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 04:21 PM

Dec 2018

People loved em and still do. I saw one here in norcal, yesterday.

I live in Teslaville. Seems everyone has one around here.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)

9. That's true, but I'm just scolding GM. They would have dominated the auto industry worldwide

Reply to ghostsinthemachine (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 10, 2018, 04:28 PM

Dec 2018

...by now, and wouldn't have to lay off so many of their workers if they'd showed just an ounce of vision. I'm in the market for an electric car right now, too. It'll either be a Smart electric (German/French co-creation), or a car from a new local company that I've got my eye on. But GM really missed the boat.

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