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The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,744 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)I think his comment about what they used to do in the old days to the spies for treason was a very direct death threat.
Witness intimidation....
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,744 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)I also hope there is a full audio tape of this and that its saved somewhere
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,744 posts)in which he opined that spies should be executed, not a transcript of the phone conversation with Zelensky.
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)How could anyone hear or read that and not think he is INSANE.
riversedge
(70,245 posts)he was wishing he was Roy Cohn & the whistleblower was the Rosenbergs!
yuiyoshida
(41,832 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)Any psychiatrist in the world would listen to their patient utter these words and immediately put a 72 hour hold on his ass.
It's like he hasn't slept in three days and is approaching psychosis that that would cause........
WASF
TrogL
(32,822 posts)He cycles way too fast for bipolar.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)I peg him as acute Dyslectic. Read that print out,so many clues as to Dyslexia,and now we hear about his Raging in the White House. That is acute Dyslexia in full bloom. And he being a psychopath and Narcissistic,that explains his thought process as well as his actions and reactions. The Guy has had tons of people around him to protect his behavior from being exposed.
Daddy had the money,and he blew it because he was unable to do simple Book Keeping. He threw his brother under the Bus because it would hurt his Social Image if he supported him. We have now seen just how dysfunctional the who Trump Family is from Fred all the way down the line.
Hekate
(90,715 posts)...and aside from the way he used to hold a grudge, among other things, I never experienced major psychiatric problems.
Maybe your spellcheck flipped a word for you?
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)sentence is partially true,and as one ages,it could change causing emotional abuse of friends and family members. It is not just Reading or Reading Retention,there are a ton of other little thinks associated.
Psychiatric Issues,not going there.
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)Dyslectic is the slightest of his problems. Hell, he is delusional in almost everything he says and does. That outright qualifies him as Psychotic. I believe that even extreme narcism is a psychosis........
His cruel and inhumane actions against immigrant children alone makes him a psychopath of the highest order.
(And it makes you seriously wonder about all his appointed cronies, the U.S. Senate Republicans, and the Republican party in it's entirety.....)
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)I just don't know what "an acute Dyslexic in full bloom" means. Dyslexics can be "hyper" or act out in other ways, but they are NOT usually pyschopaths or narcissists. That's "Trump being Trump," as they say. The signs he shows of dyslexia do not include "raging," but are more subtle. His dyslexia, rarely, if ever, dealt with in the era he went through school, certainly contributed a lot to his psychological demeanor. It is not the CAUSE of his increasingly unstable behavior, just one of the factors contributing to the whole.
tblue37
(65,409 posts)and has a lot of other relevant characteristics.
Maggiemayhem
(811 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,744 posts)ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)when he's due for his next, court-ordered injection of meds .
olegramps
(8,200 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,744 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)tblue37
(65,409 posts)people he spoke to. That's really depressing.
yardwork
(61,657 posts)Towlie
(5,325 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)Is there a more self-absorbed asshole on the planet? He's like that movie where everyone in the room is John Malkovich.
forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)That excerpt reads like the final scene of Sunset Boulevard. "When I came down that escalator...I never had an empty seat...are you ready for my close-up, Mr. Hannity?"
unblock
(52,257 posts)LakeArenal
(28,823 posts)tblue37
(65,409 posts)EricaGriswoldAuthor
(68 posts)they just wouldn't
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)He really said that!?
And he was great. They said: Was he pressured you? These animals in the press. Theyre animals actually. Some of the worst human beings youll ever meet.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: Fake news!
TRUMP: Fake news, fake news. Theyre scum, many of them are scum. You have some good reporters but not many, Ill be honest with you. And thats one of the things we battle. Youll find out, but theyll probably like you better than they like me, but I had to get us here right? But theyre total just terrible dishonest people and they couldnt figure out What do we say bad about this conversation?
Then it turns out that they had senators, Democrat senators went over there and strong-armed the guy. You better damn well do this or youre not going to get any money from Congress. Oh I see, thats O.K.? And then you have Sleepy Joe Biden, whos dumb as a rock.
(Laughter)
This guy was dumb on his best day, and hes not having his best day right now. Hes dumb as a rock. So you have Sleepy Joe, and he goes up, and his kid, whos got a lot of problems, he got thrown out of the Navy. I mean look Im not going to its a problem, thats a problem, so we wont get into why and all that. But he got thrown out of the Navy, and now this kid goes into Ukraine, walks away with millions of dollars, and he becomes a consultant for $50,000 a month. And he doesnt know anything compared to anybody in this room. Hes a stiff, he knows nothing. Hes walking away with $50,000, or as you would say in the old days 50K a month. Not bad. Would anybody else in this room like to represent Ukraine just like
(Crowd cheers)
TRUMP: Thats on top you got the job thats on top of hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars. But thats not the best one. The best one was China. This came up. So now he goes to China, and I was with the head of Blackstone which is the big deal. Steve Schwarzman. I said, Steve, is that possible? No, why? Who got that? I said. Bidens son. Ooh, Well then you know he says, Maybe I shouldnt get involved, you know its very political. I say, Steve, what happens when you come off a vice presidential plane, its called Air Force Two, your fathers with you, you walk into a room in China and they give you a fund of $1.5 billion, billion, you make hundreds of thousands of dollars and millions of dollars off that. And thats probably not all they gave him. They gave him plenty more, Im sure. We might never find out.
And then they talk about me, and I didnt do anything. I dont know if Im the most innocent person in the world.
(Laughter)
TRUMP: But you know you look at that most presidential, I just said Im the most presidential except for possibly Abe Lincoln when he wore the hat that was tough to beat.
(Laughter)
Honest Abe, when he wore that hat, that was tough to beat. But I cant do that, that hat wouldnt work for me. Yeah, I have better hair than him. But Honest Abe was tough to beat. Remember we used to do that during the campaign. They used to say, when I speak, the crowd would be crazy, Id go crazy we would all go crazy. We had a lot of fun together. We had 25,000 Weve never had an empty seat. From the day I came down the escalator, with a potential unbelievable woman who became a first lady.
(Applause)
The crowds loved her, the people love her.
But weve never had an empty seat, not one. I really believe that. There was one case where we had a tremendous snowstorm, and it was just about frozen. It was like a monster storm, I dont even know how it got there. I said, hows the crowd? Its just not full, sir. I said what does that mean. Theres like two seats on top. Thousands and thousands of people couldnt get there. So they show pictures of the empty seats. The worst storm theyve had in years. They show pictures of like nine empty seats. They could have been people just went to the bathroom together.
(Laughter)
I always say just get the biggest arena. Good location if you can, but get the biggest arena. We did it the other night, Tuesday night. We had two congressmen, one who was possibly going to win, he was up by two, he won by about 27, I think, or something like that. A lot. The other one was down by 17. And they said, Sir, dont campaign for him please. Why? Because if he loses, theyre going to kill you, the press. I said theyre going to kill me whether I campaign or not. Itll make it a little bit worse. Theyll say he worked and he failed. Trump failed. The guy was down 17 points and he ended up winning by a lot. In fact, the whole night, CNN. . . (inaudible)
TRUMP: The studio was going to stay up for weeks, and toward the end of the night they were taking it down. Their so-called stars were leaving. They dont have many stars. But they were taking the stars were leaving. The candidate Dan Bishop won by a lot. He was down by 17, and they had lines a mile long. I mean the lines going into those voting booths were unbelievable. And without the rally speech, and a couple of tweets and Twitter stuff is good. We have like way over 100 million people on six or seven different platforms. Its actually much higher than that, higher than just about everybody. And it helps. It helps. They have signs oftentimes when I speak. This woman the other night, beautiful woman, shes got a son: Please keep tweeting sir, it matters. And it does matter, because we get our voice out. If we dont do that, we dont get the voice out.
I cant say what a great job Kelly [Craft] is doing, and I cant say what a wonderful husband he is. Look at how devoted he is. Hes a rich man, too. Hes loaded. What are you doing here? Why are you working? Hes so proud of his wife he cant leave his office. Thats really great though, huh? Are you all proud of her? He said very much. And hes really a fantastic guy, hes been a friend of mine for a long time. Before I met Kelly, I met Joe [Craft]. And Joe impressed me because of his knowledge of energy. Now he could be paid O.K., youre going to pay a guy 50 for him thats not quite good enough, although he might. He might. Its easy money, Joe, you have to say. But he would be an expert on energy, he would be a real expert. He would be somebody you would pay a lot of money to, but not Joe Bidens son.
So the whistle-blower came out and said nothing. Said a couple of people told me he had a conversation with Ukraine. Were at war. These people are sick. Theyre sick. And nobodys called them out like I do. I dont understand. People are afraid to call them out. Theyre afraid to say that the press is crooked. We have a crooked press. We have a dishonest media. So now theyre devastated, but theyll always find something. Im sure therell be something theyll find in this report that will suit their lie. But basically that person never saw the report, never saw the call. Never saw the call. Heard something, and decided that he or she or whoever the hell it is sort of like almost a spy.
I want to know whos the person that gave the whistle-blower the information, because thats close to a spy. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? With spies and treason, right? We used to handle them a little differently than we do now. Now you have guys like little Adam Schiff defending you. He says pencil neck. That name stuck. Hes got shirts that are too big, because you cant buy shirts that small. He was never a coal miner, Joe, lets put it that way. I dont think he worked in the mines. Do you think? I dont think so.
pnwest
(3,266 posts)Its almost pitiable. Someone please get ranting grandpa his meds...
Farmer-Rick
(10,192 posts)He keeps going back to Abe's hat and how good his Trump hair is. OMG. This man needs some medical attention, immediately. At a minimum he needs counseling before he gets any worse.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)"Sir, they're not laughing WITH you... they're laughing at you. Sir."
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)PatSeg
(47,512 posts)My head is spinning now. He really is devolving rapidly. I don't see how he can recover, but I've thought that before.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you the President of the United States.
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)Lock him up.
(6,933 posts)''We used to handle them a little differently'' = Impeacheable Offense #?
JohnnyRingo
(18,636 posts)It was like bringing a new girlfriend over and having her meet your batshit crazy uncle who lives upstairs. She's been around for a while now and knows you're not at all like him.
It would be amusing if that uncle didn't have that WWII bomb in his room.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Having an unstable moron rat having a mental breakdown in front of everyone and acting "unpresidented".
Talk about a bus, the wheels are ready to fly off of it now.
smb
(3,473 posts)Initech
(100,081 posts)Ponietz
(2,986 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)The stovepipe would mess up his "much better hair."
Someone asked the other day why there are so very few conservative comedians. That's because THIS is what the rightwing audience thinks is funny.
gademocrat7
(10,660 posts)That was absolutely insane. It going to take a long time to repair the damage he has done to our reputation around the world.
Aussie105
(5,405 posts)The rest of the world knows exactly what is going on. They see Donald as a senile and disturbed old man, desperately trying to hold onto a job he is not competent at, using skills he doesn't have.
The world is watching, looking at the difference between Obama and Trump, and wonders what went wrong in the US political system that allowed this decay to happen.
Changes need to be made, and not just changing POTUS, before the rest of the world can relax.
And fixing THAT perception - that the rot that goes deeper than Trump himself has been fixed - will be a big job for the next POTUS.
Lock him up.
(6,933 posts)FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Abes on spin cycle these days.
Permanut
(5,613 posts)Or maybe I should say I-m still puzzled, about why ONE person would ever vote for Mango Mussolini.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)would be grounds for impeachment
northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)asking how they can remain silent - enabling this criminal, insane person to remain in office.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)I told him it was time to cross party lines and vote to impeach.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)He replied that he simply didn't see any quid pro quo in the transcript, and Democrats were rushing to impeachment without evidence.
OMG, Captain Queeg ain't got nothing on this wackadoodle!
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)Should be required reading. When Sarah Palin was out on the campaign trail and theyd carry sound bites of some of her speeches or interviews, Id read them. It was after I read the transcript (or tried to read them!) that I realized what utter nonsense she babbled. The same could be said about tRump. If you listen to him ramble on, it is easy to get lost in the maze of confusion and not realize exactly how unhinged many of his statements are. But when you see them in print, you can slow down or re-read them. Thats when the incoherency jumps out as you struggle to follow along, to comprehend and understand what he is trying to say. It really is a window to how his mind works and after you see it, you cant ever unsee it. 😳😵🤔
smb
(3,473 posts)Spock: Captain, the speech follows no logical pattern.
Kirk: Random sentences strung together.
McCoy: He looks drugged, Jim. Almost at a cataleptic state.
--Star Trek, "Patterns Of Force"
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)the UN . She said that American reporters are amazing for being able to somehow write what comes out of his mouth and make some sense of it.
ffr
(22,671 posts)It's bad enough he's occupying the WH.
Hoping Karma catches up to his treason.
randr
(12,412 posts)Impeachment can not come quick enough. Hopefully two birds or more with one stone.
Congratulations to President Pelosi!
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)illegal tenure at the WH.
underpants
(182,835 posts)Ive been saying that for a while now.
patphil
(6,183 posts)It'd be funny if he wasn't the President of the United States.
But he is...and that's got to concern all of our allies.
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)rocktivity
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)PatrickforO
(14,578 posts)people all over the nation can't help but hear what a corrupt dirtbag Trump really is. And Giuliani is sunk, too. Did you see that great street-interview the reporter did with the Ukrainian guy?
These buffoons need to be charged, tried, and caged for all of our safety.
Maggiemayhem
(811 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,744 posts)Botany
(70,521 posts)Trump just went nuts on live TV. Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, the radical left, Mexico is helping..
.. me, China, the Ukraine, Millions of $s, the Bidens, gun laws, and so on.
The pressure is getting to him. I predict sometime between Halloween and Christmas he will be gone.
Dem2theMax
(9,651 posts)He is totally losing it. Nothing he says makes sense.
He really is going off the deep end.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)No, Donald, you do not have better hair than Abraham Lincoln. You have a dead rodent that sits on your head.
Who the hell in their right mind tries to one-up Abraham Lincoln based on their HAIR? Man's brain is toast.
sandensea
(21,639 posts)ConnieAZ1
(8 posts)more like sonny, although he whines like fredo. the don had restraint and integrity. our don (two-scoops) couldn't pick those qualities from a line-up.
sandensea
(21,639 posts)You nailed the fat bastard.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Oh shit
sandensea
(21,639 posts)And random photos of war devastation in case he asks for proof.
"Did we nuke Kiev like I ordered?"
Pulls out old Bosnian War photos.
"Yes, Mr. President. Here's imagery just collected from our satellites."
"Ooh! Look at that! Make you proud to be an American, doesn't it general?"
Lock him up.
(6,933 posts)... at this point and the real codes are safe in a Pentagon's bunker somewhere...
Let's hope they did that...
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Hekate
(90,715 posts)...something like how can that even be so? I just go back to the link and voila.
So thank you EarlG and the rest of DU for good sourcing.
tblue37
(65,409 posts)McKim
(2,412 posts)I am calling my republican rep from Oregon to demand a resignation and that this demented man be kept from using nuclear weapons starting NOW!
struggle4progress
(118,296 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,778 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)RESIST!
Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)Thank you, as this is the first time I have seen THIS craziness, although his comments are repulsive and nauseating!
Aussie105
(5,405 posts)Nothing a shot of tranquilizer, straight jacket and wheel chair followed by a quick trip to the nearest Secure Home for the Terminally Confused can't fix.
Poor Donny, he sounds desperate. Someone help him! Quick!(See above.)
apkhgp
(1,068 posts)Pull back the curtain and see the crazy little man that is directing the whole show. Where is that dog Toto anyways.
Here Boy!...Here Boy!
Cha
(297,323 posts)Collimator
(1,639 posts)When Lincoln gave everything he had to the challenge of preserving the union.
Trump is more like Jefferson Davis, who collected the remnants of a divided nation and established his political power on the basis of retaining a barbaric practice.
Trump wants to continue and stengthen the barbaric practice of white male privilege.
Lincoln--who like most of us, was something of a product of his own time--understood the cruelty and immorality of slavery. He may not have been as progressive as some folk of his time may have liked, but he caught a vision of a time when government of, for, and by the people would really meant all people.
On a sort of side note: Some people believe that America's military might and economic wealth are what make it great. But armies and weapons and money are not the things in danger of perishing from the earth.
(And don't get me started on the whole life-sustaining ecosystem perishing from the earth.)
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Okay, I can see why that might sound like the exact opposite. Probably because it is.
Nitram
(22,822 posts)"Take Abe's hat. Please!"