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Absolutely DEVASTATING Numbers for Trump (Original Post) rsacamano Nov 2019 OP
Polls are used for propaganda, gab13by13 Nov 2019 #1
Ok... he just went through the list of the ways Repukes can shift the popular vote lapfog_1 Nov 2019 #2
Packman doesn't know. 1972 Election had a huge gap between Nixon and McGovern Stuart G Nov 2019 #3

gab13by13

(21,380 posts)
1. Polls are used for propaganda,
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:09 AM
Nov 2019

I have zero faith in them. There may be a few legit ones out there but I basically ignore them.

lapfog_1

(29,218 posts)
2. Ok... he just went through the list of the ways Repukes can shift the popular vote
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:47 PM
Nov 2019

1. Voter Suppression - we know this is real and has been happening more aggressively with each election
2. A "Comey announcement" - With William Barr as AG this is certain.
3. Targeted Propaganda using Facebook data - ding ding ding... The Russians are getting really good at this
Ones he SHOULD have mentioned but didn't
4. African American turnout - if we nominate someone at the top who doesn't speak to the issues of African Americans or for whom they have a fondness ...
5. The selection of someone "too far left" to make those independents go to the polls and vote


And then at the end, he says "who cares. We don't need to win by 17, it doesn't matter if we can trust those polls, we just need to win" indicating that Biden lead by 17 the same as Warren or Sanders.

And that, right these, is BULLSHIT. It matters a great deal. Why bother listing all of the things that show Trump closing that margin if the "margin doesn't matter?" Of course it matters. I think we can safely lop off 12 points from that polling lead due to the factors listed above... and it really matters in those battleground states because the Orange Asshole might still squeak out an electoral college win even losing the popular vote by as much as 10 M.


Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
3. Packman doesn't know. 1972 Election had a huge gap between Nixon and McGovern
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 02:57 PM
Nov 2019

............................................ Electoral vote
..................................Nixon...520 ..................................17............McGovern...

............... ..............................States carried
................................Nixon..49 ................................1 + DC..... ......McGovern

...............................................Popular vote
...............................Nixon....47,168,710 ......................29,173,222...McGovern

..............................................Percentage
...............................Nixon....60.7%.................................. 37.5%.....McGovern



Packman is wrong...............................
This is somewhat recent, 1972..Hell, I remember it because... I worked for George McGovern.

The dislike of McGovern, will be duplicated in the hatred of Trump. Trump promotes disgust and hatred. He is evil scum. Poison. He will lose as bad as McGovern. Why? McGovern ran an inept, stupid campaign. He was rejected totally. Trump will be rejected totally because of his vindictive nature, and spewing of hate. It is always the same from Trump...HATE, HATE, AND MORE HATE ......................

Trump will get no more than 35 percent because the large majority of the people in the United States are not filled with hate. Most of us are not the evil Trump. Yes, a minority will vote for Trump. 30 -35 percent. A lot of Republicans will stay home. Not vote at all as a way to deny Trump another term. Trump is disgusting to most of us in the United States, as he is disgusting to most of us in the entire world. I sure hope that this prediction is correct. We will all see next year.

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