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Inside the Night President Obama Took On Donald Trump The Choice 2016 FRONTLINE (Original Post) CatWoman Jun 2020 OP
Yeah, I really wish he hadn't done that. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2020 #1
Never mind instead? czarjak Jun 2020 #2
so you are llashram Jun 2020 #8
Such Are the Ironies of History, My Friend. panfluteman Jun 2020 #9
I don't believe that dinner caused him to run. Oh, it boosted his internal desire & of course fed h napi21 Jun 2020 #3
I still believe Trump thought of running as his latest moneymaking scheme Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #5
True, he's been talking about it for years. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #6
With all his Russian help Historic NY Jun 2020 #4
I think that fear is consuming him right now. murielm99 Jun 2020 #7

llashram

(6,265 posts)
8. so you are
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 09:58 AM
Jun 2020

blaming President Obama for all of these last three-plus years of racism, division and a pres that calls racist murderers "very fine people"? I blame the Electoral College, Putin and his huge disinformation farms spreading lies that the ignorant who voted for trump believe. Why would you blame President Obama for the generations of racism that this current POTUS has used as a cudgel to kill people who don't look like him?

"All this trouble" currently is caused by the blue line of hate and murder directed toward POC dressed in camo.

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
9. Such Are the Ironies of History, My Friend.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 10:14 AM
Jun 2020

And the complexities of history as well. It would be easy to say, as Omarosa did, that Barack Obama "started something" with Trump, but Obama didn't really start it - to Obama, it was merely payback for all the birtherism that Donald had been engaging in. And Donald was motivated that night, out of sheer spite, to be elected president in 2016, just so Obama would have to hand him the keys to the White House in January of 2017. But was he really wanting to be president for the right reasons, and was he really up to the job? You might say that that was the last consideration that was on Donald's mind as he started his personal vendetta against Obama, which would also include his efforts to nullify or cancel everything that Obama had done, to the best - or worst - of his ability. And then entered a whole cast of characters, like Vladimir Putin to flatter Donald, to egg him on, and to offer all kinds of ill gotten support. Putin knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that Donald wasn't up to the job of leading a nation - and that's precisely why he wanted Donald to become president of the United States.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
3. I don't believe that dinner caused him to run. Oh, it boosted his internal desire & of course fed h
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:13 AM
Jun 2020

his insatiable ego, but he'd been dabbling with the idea for years & this time he decided "awe hell, Go for it!" I think the most blame should go to the American People. A lot of them are never happy with the man who was elected to the presidency. I can still hear them saying "Well, we tried military leaders, politicians, even movie stars and weren't satisfied, so why not a business man?" Now, the hard core who voted for him won't admit they made a mistake, fo they're sticking with him no matter what.

For me, the days aren't moving fast enough. I'm very confident Joe will win in November I'm just shaking with fear of what disasters FT will create between Nov. & Jan.

Rhiannon12866

(205,535 posts)
5. I still believe Trump thought of running as his latest moneymaking scheme
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 04:26 AM
Jun 2020

And never expected to "win," let alone intended to do the job - which he hasn't.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
6. True, he's been talking about it for years.
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 04:31 AM
Jun 2020

The megalomaniac idiot, who doesn't know he's an idiot.

I was honestly "cheering" for him during the GOP primaries, thinking it was their death-knell, but quickly changed that attitude when I saw polling for him versus Clinton. It almost made me as depressed as election night.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
4. With all his Russian help
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 02:25 AM
Jun 2020

he convinced America he was successful...nobody believed Ny'ers . Well now he has made Obamagate his thing...
People are now seeing the real Trump for what he is. If by some quirk he is re-elected he won't be able to go anywhere w/o fear. I want the fear to kill him and eat at him every day. I want him to think there is someone after him at every street corner, every airport, everywhere especially when he thinks his golf courses are secure.

Fear will consume him.

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