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NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
3. Is this how it began? Here's Michael Flynn talking about his digital army, September 2017
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 02:40 PM
Sep 2020

at Young America's Foundation. In the full version he discusses how he came to understand the power of social media and influencers.
Short version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=V2MgTd3LgB0&feature=emb_logo

Full talk: The explanation starts at 11:45 Especially relevant is his mention of the big influencer.




It's worth noting that Qanon made their first post on 4Chan just one month later in October of 2017.

ancianita

(36,128 posts)
8. Do you mean Periscope? Because he never names an 'influencer' on it. Just sayin'.
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 04:04 PM
Sep 2020

I can't answer your question except to say that he was one of Trump's "early adopters."

His going on and on about the 'good ol' American values he and the audience share is ridiculous in retrospect of his admitting to being a lobbyist for Turkey, bragging about his being “the first U.S. officer ever allowed inside the headquarters of the G.R.U.” And he even tried to go back for a second trip and invited G.R.U. officers to come to the U.S." After which Obama fired him.

Then he hypes the victim card over that, goes for the "lock her up" crowd deflection. He brags about his humble values and becomes a two-level sellout parents would disown. A real four-star asshole.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
11. I agree. I keep picturing him yelling like a lunatic at rallies "Lock her up".
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 05:25 PM
Sep 2020

It just seems that what he calls an "influencer" and patriot on Twitter with 650k (it's at 15:12 on the video) followers would have been helpful in directing attention to platforms the campaign felt would be beneficial to them. Such as Q.

It might be too much of a stretch to imagine that Q's first post on 4Chan only one month from the time of Flynn's talk to the young people in this video is related. It just seems that it caught on so fast. If the campaign had an influencer willing to direct young right leaning people to 4Chan, it would have been a big boost and Q would take off immediately.

Q has captured the minds of a few people I know and it's very disturbing. I've been thinking about it a lot the last few days.

ancianita

(36,128 posts)
13. Factor in that those high Twitter follower counts he never knew/said at the time were Russian bots.
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 07:07 PM
Sep 2020

When you're conditioned by Russian message swarms and bot spreading, the 4Chan and Q fabrication isn't a bigger fish to swallow on the domestic end.

If there's a Q central that lists all the conspiracies it's spread, that would be useful.
Just as not all news is "fake," not all news is "Q."

niyad

(113,498 posts)
6. Absolutely spot on! And I just watched his video about the wall from just before 2019. Nearly
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 03:11 PM
Sep 2020

spit out my drink. "The way to stop this wall nonsense is to have Obama endorse it."

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
14. The Whole Pedophilia Cannibalism Part of the QAnon Conspiracy
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 07:44 PM
Sep 2020

Is just a natural outgrowth of the paranoid fantasies of "pro-life" anti-abortion activists. In their deranged minds, it's a very short step to go from being OK with aborting unborn fetuses to wanting to violate and eat young children.

mucifer

(23,558 posts)
15. Sounds like "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" that was popular in Europe in the early 1900s
Sat Sep 5, 2020, 09:03 PM
Sep 2020

Claimed we Jews used the blood of Christian babies to make our matzoh for Passover and were plotting to take over the world. It got lots of us murdered in pogroms in Eastern Europe and then the Holocaust.

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/a-hoax-of-hate-the-protocols-of-the-learned-elders-of-zion

This kinda shit is not funny at all.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
17. trumpft is Qanon.
Sun Sep 6, 2020, 10:38 AM
Sep 2020

Remember all those interviews and letters he wrote as "Baron?" This is his strategy and everything that comes out of the Qanonsense sounds exactly like something he would say.

trumpft is Qanon. "High level govt."

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