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cal04

(41,505 posts) Sat Oct 6, 2012, 07:16 AM Oct 2012

Dishonest - Obama for America TV Ad

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Dishonest - Obama for America TV Ad (Original Post) cal04 Oct 2012 OP

Confused. Is the CLAIM about raising taxes "just not true" or only the "independence" of the study? Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #1

The ad clearly states Romney and the "independent study" are both lying... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #7

That is 2 of 3 points. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #12

Mythomaniac Island Deac Oct 2012 #2

That mania is so far apart that it has spread into several personalities. Which personality DhhD Oct 2012 #6

This ad is clearly aimed at a specific Romney ad which we may not have seen. rgbecker Oct 2012 #3

Bait and switch The Wizard Oct 2012 #4

Ad running in FL Island Deac Oct 2012 #5

There are many clips of Romney proposing the "across the board" LibDemAlways Oct 2012 #8

Give'em Hell............... SILVER__FOX52 Oct 2012 #9

A quote by Newt on Romney's dishonesty. alfredo Oct 2012 #10

Americans are OBSESSED with taxes. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #11

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)

1. Confused. Is the CLAIM about raising taxes "just not true" or only the "independence" of the study?

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:03 AM

Oct 2012

The ad implies both, possibly, but not definitively.

It bugs me that we do these "half measures" on an ad like this.

The rethugs are going to get their undies in a bundle anyway, why not smack down on the side of truth with the hammer of Thor vs a foam bat? Are we afraid to hurt their feelings or something?

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)

7. The ad clearly states Romney and the "independent study" are both lying...

Reply to Tigress DEM (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:39 AM

Oct 2012

...there is nothing implied about this ad at all - it is very direct and to the point.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)

12. That is 2 of 3 points.

Reply to OldDem2012 (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 7, 2012, 05:19 PM

Oct 2012

Romney and the 5 billion is "dishonest" #1
Obama raising taxes on middle class per study by non-partisan group.
NOT non-partisan #2 CLEAR
It's just not true --- could be additional emphasis on #2 vs clearly stating AND it's not true that Obama will raise taxes.

I think it would have been stronger to say, Obama has no intention on raising taxes on the middle class AND the "independent study" is in no way independent. Then show the pics of the goons involved.

It's an ok ad, just isn't as strong as I'd have liked it to be.

Island Deac

(104 posts)

2. Mythomaniac

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:24 AM

Oct 2012

The man is a Mythomaniac. He said in the debate that his sons lied to him. That's how he knows about lies. It is, simply, "It takes one to know one." They learned to lie from him. This is one of the reasons he was so attracted to choose Ryan. "Peas in a Pod"!!

DhhD

(4,695 posts)

6. That mania is so far apart that it has spread into several personalities. Which personality

Reply to Island Deac (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:27 AM

Oct 2012

could be on the button at that 3 am phone call? He did tell us that he consults with Ann. Perhaps she triggers his first personality, the one he wished he had with his mother.

rgbecker

(4,832 posts)

3. This ad is clearly aimed at a specific Romney ad which we may not have seen.

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:33 AM

Oct 2012

That said, that Romney says in the debate that he is not in favor of a 5 Trilion tax cut is bull shit. He has been saying, from the start, that we need to give a huge tax 20% cut to the "Job Creators" so they will create jobs. Now suddenly not? WTF?

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)

4. Bait and switch

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:53 AM

Oct 2012

is consumer fraud. Rmoney is a fraud.

Island Deac

(104 posts)

5. Ad running in FL

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:03 AM

Oct 2012

ROMNEY lies about "Bi-Partisan" & "Independent". The man can't help it!!!

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)

8. There are many clips of Romney proposing the "across the board"

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:59 AM

Oct 2012

tax cut. The ad should have used one of them to drive home the point that he was out and out lying in the debate.

SILVER__FOX52

(535 posts)

9. Give'em Hell...............

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 10:15 AM

Oct 2012

Harry !!!

alfredo

(60,074 posts)

10. A quote by Newt on Romney's dishonesty.

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 10:16 AM

Oct 2012

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/gingrich-you-cannot-debate-somebody-who-is-dishonest/

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)

11. Americans are OBSESSED with taxes.

Reply to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:53 PM

Oct 2012

I've met some that actually believe taxes are a form of slavery.

They think they are out and out EVIL and don't wish them on their worse enemy. These type can go on and on about Wall Street but mention raising taxes on them and they say, "no way".

It's a mantra that taxes are too high.

ALWAYS too high.

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