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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. Very few of my relatively intelligent, well-read friends have the patience or ability
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:04 PM
Oct 2012

to understand their own financial dealings.

It's sad, but the mathematical reasoning ability just isn't there.

That is the only explanation for the older woman who lies to get a loan on her house. She does not understand that she will have to go through the misery of a house foreclosure and bankruptcy and real personal disaster if she overextends herself. It explains why we are seeing homeless women in my neighborhood in California.

Our experts, real estate agents and loan managers are supposed to verify things like loan applications. But, of course, the companies were corrupt. The employees who saw the problem as it was developing were most likely fired early on.

Because of the fraud in the financial sector, we must keep Social Security as a system managed by the government. We cannot make helpless, elderly people who worked hard and contributed all their lives rely on Morgan Stanley's Wall Street in order to survive when they can no longer get jobs.

I have dealt with lots of people, looked at their financial statements, at the contracts they have signed, at their dealings. It is incredible. People make shocking mistakes because they just do not understand what the words mean in the documents they sign and because they are unrealistic about money and value. Most people cannot figure out a budget, much less stick to it, not even if they write it all down on a piece of paper. A minority of people, the lucky few, can figure in their heads whether they can afford a purchase or not. And this minority of people does not understand how hard it is for everyone else. I just think it is a matter of how the brain functions from early childhood if not birth. But the disparity between those who understand 2 plus 2 and those who don't is really striking when you deal with people about these things.

People actually think that 3 ozs. for 99 cents is a better buy than 1 oz. for 33 cents. Or vice versa depending on their mood.

Take the supermarket. Here in California, the per ounce price must be printed on the price tag in the shelf. You really have to look at those things if you want to avoid being taken by the grocer and the corporation that produces the product you want to buy. You can not tell from the packaging what is the best deal -- the large size or the small one. But people ignore the signs and buy the showiest package. The amount you save by shopping wisely isn't much, but it takes a couple of seconds to check the real price per ounce -- and doing that keeps corporations honest.

Why is this small detail important? Because it illustrates that people just cannot think rationally. They want to save money but just can't think clearly and steadily enough to do it.

And that is what is wrong with the whole Chicago school economics theory -- it supposes a rational market. But a rational market would have to be frequented by rational people and most people do not have the ability to set aside their emotions and think rationally. And unfortunately too many of the few who think rationally have no compassion or empathy.

It's a sad reality.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
2. Brilliantly said... Ms. Warren should put together a recovery video for consumers who have
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:00 PM
Oct 2012

been hit by fraud so that they can at least have a chance to survive.... And I can't agree with you more on the fact that we must keep Social Security as a system managed by the Govt. and not the Morgan Stanley's of Wall Street...


Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
4. We need her to show how much money Libor cost the average American to put it in terms they can
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:59 AM
Oct 2012

understand!

midnight

(26,624 posts)
5. That could help people understand the impact of the risk associated with a banking
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 10:01 AM
Oct 2012

industry without regulations...

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
3. Too true, and that is how Wall Street is able to get away with it. People see the word "financial"
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 09:57 AM
Oct 2012

and stop! The fact that there are only a couple of responses to this show is testament to people not wanting to spend the time to understand what is going on! It is not as short and sexy as say, (Biden destroys Lyin Ryan), so Wall Street can pay fines as a cost of doing business instead of having their leaders do jail time. The opportunists A.G.'s go score a seemingly big monetary fine to advance their careers, are really helping Wall Street perpetuate the cycle of fraud! If they were doing their job they would be issuing indictments instead of civil subpoenas. Gietner is there because of the power of Wall Street. You do not get elected POTUS w/o doing some deals with the Devil! I am surprised this guys film has made it to the end, usually, the corporations do what BP is doing on the Gulf oil spill. There have been several documentaries on the Gulf oil spill, but they disappear after the trailer comes out because BP bought them with confidentiality agreements where they are never heard or seen again! I know this to be true because my firm has fought BP in the Texas City explosion and now the oil spill. Wake the fuck up America! Where is Samuel L. Jackson when you need him!

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