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Related: About this forumAnd the Band Played Waltzing Matilda, sung by Shane MacGowan of the Pogues
There are messages in Bogle's song that really speak to me.
"To hump tent and peg, a man needs two legs"
Scuba
(53,475 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)for everyone, men still went out of there way to kill and steal from each other. After Kent State, Ohio, does anybody still have hope that things will change? I don't. I'm sure this will get loads of vilifying responses but I'm older than most of you and you won't change my mind.
greiner3
(5,214 posts)See 'Won't Get Fooled Again.'
Even at 14, I was political enough to take this song to heart, although I still hold 'Baba O'Riley' the best song on the album.
Just like the anemic changes OWS has accomplished, the thought that the large changes such as 'V for Vendetta' might bring about will not happen; much to my Utopian outlook's mind set.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)<iframe width="420" height="315" src="
" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>Bucky
(54,033 posts)On earth today, deaths by war are getting smaller, wars are getting fewer, most poor countries are getting more prosperous, life expectancy is getting longer, diseases are getting rarer, crime is going down, and quality of life is going up. These are over all trends, not anecdotal terrible things to see on the news and get worried about. Almost all overall trend lines show human society getting more peaceful and less violent and more healthy.
There's only one trend line to worry about--rising sea levels (especially once Siberia starts to thaw out its permafrost). That shit scares me. Imagine losing Miami, Galveston, Manhattan, Bangldesh. But the rest of the trend lines look pretty positive (including a general slowing down of world population growth--plateauing out sometime before 2070.)
Bucky
(54,033 posts)Casualty rates were about 60% on both sides. Think about that. Three out of every five men on both sides were killed or otherwise taken out of the war. Just brutal.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)...starring Mel Gibson. Until then, I thought the war was only fought in Europe.