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Cops Torch Cabin Where Christopher Dorner Was Held Up (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2013 OP
The guy killed a lot of people, including two more today. still_one Feb 2013 #1
I'm glad he has been eradicated but I can't tolerate the lies as how it went down. eom Purveyor Feb 2013 #2
I understand. Speaking of misinformation, the initial reports that he had been killed have not been still_one Feb 2013 #7
If I hadn't heard it live on net scanner, I wouldn't be so worked up about it. The police Purveyor Feb 2013 #8
next up, ban the net scanner. It's threat to national security. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #34
So they decided to burn the building without confirmation of adequate cover on at least 2 sides or pkdu Feb 2013 #3
Desperate people 2naSalit Feb 2013 #4
I agree....but I'm paying taxes in the hope/belief that the police down here are less desperate than pkdu Feb 2013 #6
LAPD have been shooting to kill since the first minute. 64 bullets unloaded at two women Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #11
why do you think they did not have the cabin covered? robinlynne Feb 2013 #12
Because the audio clearly indicates officers saying they don't have full cover of the rear/sides pkdu Feb 2013 #18
"Fire" could be "Line of fire". Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #5
"Burners deployed and we have a fire"? eom Purveyor Feb 2013 #9
Sounded like they were 2naSalit Feb 2013 #10
I just made a copy of the video dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author 1monster Feb 2013 #25
I'm not going to buy a heavily edited audio.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #16
in the 21st century with hitech weapons and robots we revert to Downwinder Feb 2013 #13
Did you make this recording? (i.e. do you know it is real?) robinlynne Feb 2013 #14
I do believe that is called James48 Feb 2013 #17
+10000 darkangel218 Feb 2013 #23
We lost another officer today SCVDem Feb 2013 #19
Good. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2013 #20
This was a positive ID! SCVDem Feb 2013 #21
That doesn't follow your logic. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2013 #22
Oh Snap! You just played the "rule of law" card. Bucky Feb 2013 #24
+1 nt Live and Learn Feb 2013 #26
Ar first I thought of Patty Hearst SCVDem Feb 2013 #28
You are 100% correct, oldbanjo Feb 2013 #32
+1 nt Live and Learn Feb 2013 #27
how was this a positive id? 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #30
You equate these two? Man, that's twisted. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #29
And there you go. A Simple Game Feb 2013 #31
I've had to deal with our county sheriffs in this central California location. Plucketeer Feb 2013 #33

still_one

(92,325 posts)
7. I understand. Speaking of misinformation, the initial reports that he had been killed have not been
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:35 AM
Feb 2013

Confirmed

you are also correct your video is pretty damning since the msm is saying just the opposite

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
8. If I hadn't heard it live on net scanner, I wouldn't be so worked up about it. The police
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:37 AM
Feb 2013

obviously thought they were talking on a secure frequency or this would have never be exposed.

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
3. So they decided to burn the building without confirmation of adequate cover on at least 2 sides or
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:29 AM
Feb 2013

corners of the building from officers preventing escape?

AUFKM ?

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
6. I agree....but I'm paying taxes in the hope/belief that the police down here are less desperate than
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:34 AM
Feb 2013

90% of these wackos!

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
11. LAPD have been shooting to kill since the first minute. 64 bullets unloaded at two women
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:45 AM
Feb 2013

who STILL look nothing like one 280 pound black man.

PD didn't care if there might be hostages inside. Some media sources are failing to report that it was the cops who torched the place. Add it up.

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
18. Because the audio clearly indicates officers saying they don't have full cover of the rear/sides
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:18 AM
Feb 2013

after the burn order is .given

2naSalit

(86,742 posts)
10. Sounded like they were
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:44 AM
Feb 2013

pretty sloppy in their execution of the operation... geeze, I don't ever wonder why I'm so glad I evacuated from Calif long ago.

So there was a basement in the cabin and they didn't have the perimeter secured even after they torched the place...

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #15)

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
16. I'm not going to buy a heavily edited audio....
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:04 AM
Feb 2013

At one point they talk about part of the cabin collapsing but that was lifted from their use of the armored dozer that they used.

I saw the thing going past the roadblock still on it's trailer on the news. It was painted military olive drab and had bullet proof windows.

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
13. in the 21st century with hitech weapons and robots we revert to
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 01:49 AM
Feb 2013

thousands year old technology, burn them out.

James48

(4,437 posts)
17. I do believe that is called
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:12 AM
Feb 2013

Murder.

Setting a fire to kill a civilian, by the way, is a violation of the Geneva 1949 convention if it were military doing the burning.

I see that particular use of fire to be with the intention to kill the occupant of the building. I consider that murder in the first degree.

Yes, he was a bad guy. But murdering him in this fashion was not necessary and in my humble opinion, a flagrant violation of the use of force.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
19. We lost another officer today
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:23 AM
Feb 2013

I don't give a rats ass how this fuck was sent packing!

Maybe some of you would feel differently if he was shooting at you!

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
20. Good.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:21 AM
Feb 2013

So I take it you would be ok with the same thing happening to the officers who shot at the elderly Asian women delivering papers? Lets be consistent here.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,869 posts)
22. That doesn't follow your logic.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:33 AM
Feb 2013

You made the statement "if he was shooting at you" so would those elderly ladies have been in the right to return shots and set the cops on fire who were shooting at them? They were being shot at. We're still a nation of laws.

Bucky

(54,041 posts)
24. Oh Snap! You just played the "rule of law" card.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:10 AM
Feb 2013

That pretty much wins me over every time. I won't cry over Dorner going down. Him not being taken alive was more or less a given (Cenk Uyger called it last week) but it shouldn't have gone down like that. When police resort to burning buildings rather than waiting out a holed up suspect, it cheapens the law; it cheapens our laws. They wanted him dead. It may not be murder, but it sure ain't right.

oldbanjo

(690 posts)
32. You are 100% correct,
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:16 AM
Feb 2013

I didn't know this was one of their options, they need to look at WACO again.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
31. And there you go.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:59 AM
Feb 2013
I don't give a rats ass how this fuck was sent packing!


That's it in a nut shell! That was supposedly the attitude of the police that caused Dorner to eventually go nuts on them.

It is also the reason many if not most civilians don't trust the police.

How do you think this vicious circle can end?
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
33. I've had to deal with our county sheriffs in this central California location.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 12:46 PM
Feb 2013

Our county is the second poorest in the state - and that's reflected in the quality of the deputies here. I hope to hell I NEVER have to depend on them in a clutch situation. These guys make Keystone Cops look downright professional!

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