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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsIn the market for a new car
Good mileage, sedan, not insanely expensive. Any recommendations?
GP6971
(31,220 posts)and it comes with a killer warranty.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)still disposable cars
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Mid 30s gas mileage with normal to careful driving on my commute (no hwy driving)
Comfy seating. Spacious rear leg room for a compact car. Satellite tuner radio sounds better than new Fusion I just got for our next daughter to drive
Nissan heavily discounting them too
brush
(53,876 posts)It will have been maintained by the dealer and you can get a new-car warranty with it, that way you don't take the depreciation hit new car buyers get when they drive it off the lot.
Sedona
(3,769 posts)Eight weeks after Hurricane Harvey hit Houston, its estimated at least a million vehicles suffered flood damage
Now dealers from around the world are ready to buy and resell the cars, but buyers should beware. Although Texas law requires each vehicles history is made available to buyers, safety experts say the effects of water damage are often felt much farther down the road.
At the Texas World Speedway, about 70 miles north of Houston, tens of thousands of cars and trucks line the track. Eventually, they will be sold by insurance companies to salvage yards, dealers, and individual buyers around the world.
While Texas law requires that each cars flood history be made available to potential buyers, safety experts say the effects of water damage are often not felt until much further down the road.
More than 50 electronic control units are computers in the car today, these vehicles are very susceptible to water. And that water is not friendly to these kinds of systems and can cause all kinds of safety hazards, said Sean Kane with the Sfety Institute.
brush
(53,876 posts)Beakybird
(3,333 posts)I would get a dealer certified car. If you don't get a hybrid, the Nissan Altima gets the best mileage of the mid-sized sedans - 27/39. But I think that the Kia Optima got the best Consumer Reports rating.
Also, before you buy, find out how much it costs to insure. I found out that my Chevy Malibu costs $200 more per year to insure than a Camry. Boy was I sorry.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Traded my Prius- it was a great car I just needed more room to carry the grandkids
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,299 posts)Sounds like a guzzler.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,299 posts)trc
(823 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)had it since July and love it. Great mileage (took it to Key West the first month we had it) and very comfortable.
I also bought a Chevy Colorado at the same time - we had 2 cars to trade in. I love it too. It's not as good on gas as her Cruze but it beats the 2003 Avalanche I was driving by so much that the gas savings almost completely covers the car payment. I had to have a truck for work but you don't even know how hard it was to not get a Camaro. It would not have been very practical though - too much equipment to haul around.
MichMan
(11,977 posts)BlueSpot
(856 posts)But one could argue they *are* supporting the longshoreman union.
When I bought my last new car (2007), I went to all the U.S. majors and they just couldn't match what I got with my Prius. You want $20K of my hard-earned money? Offer a competitive product. At least try and come close so I can give you the benefit of the doubt. I've been driving that Prius for more than 10 years with no significant downtime other than routine maintenance. I've got more miles on it that any other car I have ever owned. It cost more, but the savings in gas have more than paid that back.
That being said, I do rent cars for work trips. Had a Chevy Malibu a while back that was pretty nice. A lot of good features - back up camera, bluetooth, adjustable seats, solid gas mileage, etc. I don't know the asking price for it but it was a very decent car to drive. The Buick Verano was pretty nice too. The gas mileage wasn't as good but other features were. I don't know the price of that either but it "felt" more expensive than the Chevy. Renting a car for a few days is a pretty good test drive.
demosincebirth
(12,543 posts)blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)plants.
Some other plants here have workers who rejected unions, I'm sure some were coerced to do so. For whatever reason, in some parts of the country, workers tend to reject unions -- mostly red states I bet, but haven't done the research.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)but until recently I was never in a position to really do much about it. I bought used whatever was available for the cash I had on hand. But we finally worked hard enough and saved up enough to reward ourselves with 2 new Chevys. I didn't even give a squat about depreciation as I plan to have these cars for a long time.
My Grandpa was a GM man all his life and I did try to buy used GM cars when I could but was happy I could finally get new cars for me and my wife.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)In fact, our whole family buys only GM. Daughter just rolled out a new Equinox. That stop/start feature is going to take some getting used to for me, but I'll get there eventually.
GM products have always been great as far as I'm concerned.
underpants
(182,904 posts)The topic turned to buying cars.
One approach was to walk into a dealership near closing time on a Saturday. The theory was that sales people would be more likely to give you a better deal.
Then one of managers described what he does. He decides what car he wants with all the specs and gets the contact emails addresses of every dealership within say 50 miles. He emails all of them with one email with all of them clearly visible to each other. He says he's bought several cars this way always getting a really good deal. Let them be aware that they are fighting it out.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,219 posts)They usually sell them after 30 to 40K miles and they're very well maintained. Avis gives you a 3 day test drive at a reduced rate.
Wolf Frankula
(3,601 posts)I guarantee nobody will molest you. You will not have to stop at stoplights and the police will leave you alone.
Wolf
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)PJMcK
(22,051 posts)True Dough
(17,331 posts)You'll thank me later, after you've hammered the gas pedal!
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)I've been very happy with cars purchased from Enterprise Rent-a-Car. They are without dent or scratch and have been maintained mechanically much more scrupulously than most privately-owned cars. There's no haggling.
Wounded Bear
(58,719 posts)Do a thorough check of the vehicle history. Or at least know your seller as best as possible.
A lot of cars from Texas and the deep south that "survived" the hurricanes and flooding.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)It's a wonderful car performance wise, marvelous "ride" and beautiful design (I get so many compliments). I just can't figure out from the manual how to change the time on the clock. The next time I take it in for an oil change I'll ask
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,621 posts)From June 2015:
Warning: Thousands of flooded cars could be resold to unsuspecting buyers
Biz Beat Blog
Terry Box/Auto Writer
tbox@dallasnews.com
Published: June 5, 2015 1:52 pm
The floods last month in Dallas, Austin and Houston may have damaged as many as 10,000 vehicles, some of which will likely be resold to unsuspecting buyers.
That was the warning Friday from the National Insurance Crime Bureau, which said 2,500 cars, trucks and motorcycles have already been towed to a facility in Houston.
Many will be sold at auction ostensibly for salvaged parts but some will be repaired and sold by unscrupulous retailers.
Vehicles may be purchased at bargain prices, cleaned up and then taken out of state, the insurance group said.
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Hat tip, Jalopnik: Buyer Beware: 10,000 Flood-Damaged Texas Cars Could Hit The Market
6/06/15 11:25am
Many parts of the Lone Star State are still recovering from last months devastating flash floods. The after-effects of the storm will likely be felt for years, and in one way, they could have an impact on the rest of the country: as many as 10,000 flood-damaged cars and trucks could be resold out of state.
The National Insurance Crime Bureau reports that already, about 2,500 flooded vehicles have been towed to a processing facility in Houston owned by Copart, a company that works with insurers to salvage and resell vehicles. Most of those will be sold for parts.
But theres still a chance that flooded vehicles could be purchased on the cheap, cleaned up, taken out of state and then given a swapped VIN and new title with no indication they were damaged by floods, the bureau reports. Buyers could unwittingly end up with a badly-damaged used car they were told runs just fine. ... Via The Dallas Morning News, here are some ways to tell if a used car has flood damage:
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Most insurers report to the bureau whether a vehicle has ever been declared a total loss, salvaged or stolen. You can search by VIN at VINCheck℠.
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From three weeks ago:
Thousands of Hurricane-Damaged Cars and Trucks Heading Back to Market
National Insurance Crime Bureau VIN Check
About VINCheck (SM)
NICB's VINCheck is a free service provided to the public to assist in determining if a vehicle has been reported as stolen, but not recovered, or has been reported as a salvage vehicle by cooperating NICB member insurance companies. To perform a search, a vehicle identification number (VIN) is required. A maximum of five searches can be conducted within a 24-hour period per IP address.
Also, because this thread just got a reply:
Hat tip, Stuart G
Virginia Officials Warning About Buying Hurricane-Damaged Vehicles
by Katie Pyzyk October 3, 2017 at 11:30 am
The recent spate of major hurricanes making landfall in the U.S. has raised the possibility of flood-damaged vehicles making their way up to the local used car market, Virginia officials warn.
Hundreds of thousands of vehicles are thought to have been damaged by hurricane-related flooding. That has prompted warnings from Virginias Department of Motor Vehicles and attorney general.
Although Virginia state law requires owners to report water damage when selling their vehicle, not everyone does. The AG and DMV have released guidelines of what to watch for when purchasing a used vehicle.
Their full statement is below.
RICHMOND (October 3, 2017) Attorney General Mark R. Herring and the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) are urging customers in the market for a new or used car to be on the lookout for vehicles with water damage in the wake of massive flooding caused by a recent onslaught of hurricanes that has damaged or destroyed countless vehicles.
All Virginians purchasing a used car directly from another individual should have the vehicle inspected by a mechanic, but that advice is even more pertinent in the wake of massive flooding when the risk of purchasing a water-damaged car increases, said Attorney General Mark Herring. Virginians need to be on the lookout for signs of water damage when purchasing a vehicle, and should always trust their instincts if something seems too good to be true, it probably is.
Nearly one-out-of-three car sales occurs directly between individuals, DMV Commissioner Richard D. Holcomb said. The dangers of water-damaged cars can be hidden. Aside from mold and rust, electrical systems could erode and fail over time. Computer sensors could be damaged and safety protections like air bags could fail in a crash.
State law requires water damage to be reported on a vehicles title; however, dishonest sellers can find ways to circumvent these requirements, putting buyers at risk. If a vehicle is branded as non-repairable, the vehicle cannot be titled in Virginia, but a non-repairable car could be titled in another state. If a Virginian purchases that car and tries to title it in Virginia, the vehicles history would show it as non-repairable and the customer couldnt obtain a title.
Virginia Code § 46.2-624 requires insurance companies to report to DMV when they have paid a claim of $3,500 or more on a vehicle due to water damage. Insurers are required to notify DMV of such water damage, even if the owner intends to continue driving the vehicle.
One tool consumers can use to check a vehicles history is the National Motor Vehicle Title Information System (NMVTIS). By centralizing national title records, NMVTIS can help customers take extra precautions to identify flood-damaged, stolen or otherwise unsafe vehicles prior to titling. For more information, visit vehiclehistory.gov.
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From the comments:
skippy johnson 3 hours ago
Inspect the lamps in the headlights/taillights--look for fogging or condensation. Make sure that all upholstery/carpet pieces match-- if not, could be a sign they were replaced. Look under the wheel wells and the spare tire for debris/water stains. Turn on all electronics, including the radio-- make sure there's no crackling/static noise or smoke. Also:
https://www.nicb.org/theft_...
National Insurance Crime Bureau VINCheck (SM)
flvegan
(64,416 posts)AWD? Yes.
325 horsepower? Yes.
In my area, they can be had for around $30k for a leftover 2017.
If you can stand to get dealer certified used or use a buyer's service (my personal preference), for under $40k you could find a nice Chevy SS or Taurus SHO. If you can push the price tag a little further north and want a little luxury in your life, a Cadillac CTS-V would be worth looking at (though I hate their infotainment system).
Hey, you said "good" mileage, not great. Four doors doesn't have to be boring.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)a Subaru Crosstrek. She loves it. I have driven it several times and love it too. It's a small hatchback that can go in snow.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)this would be a LOT funnier if I lived in Crosstrek.
LisaM
(27,839 posts)They get decent mileage too. If I got a new car it would be a Jeep or an Escape.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Check your local library
CountAllVotes
(20,878 posts)Look for one now, a 2017 model. They tend to cut you a deal this time of the year as they are selling off 2017 models (same story for ALL cars btw).
I traded in my Honda Civic for an Accord over 15 years ago and it has required ONE repair in the 15 years I've had ol' Bessy as I call her.
Look for deals now as opportunity is a knockin'!
Best of luck with whatever you end up purchasing!
PJMcK
(22,051 posts)It's elegant, comes with lots of higher-end features, gets great mileage and the four-door sedan has a lot of cargo space. Plus, it's small enough to park easily. Hyundai's are reasonably priced and come with a 10-year/100,000 mile warranty.
I've got a 2013 with 82,000 miles on it and I love it!
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,902 posts)I've bought several of them, always used.
There are lots of good suggestions here, both about specific makes and models, and some general advice.
If you do buy used you must absolutely look at the Carfax report. Often they are readily available on line. Just go to the website of dealers in your area and look at their inventory. There will often be a link to the Carfax report. If a dealer won't let you see it, do not do business with him.
One good thing about buying cars these days is that there is so very much information on line that your chances of being ripped off are much lower than they used to be, before the internet. So do lots of research. And test drive. Test drive, test drive, test drive.
When you are first looking, especially if you're going the used car route, do not discuss money or financing on your first round of visits to dealers. If at all possible, pay cash, but if that's not practical for you, research financing ahead of time. Do NOT let the monthly payment be your bottom line. Do NOT finance for such a long time that you are ever underwater on the value of the car. Buy something less expensive.
I've actually written up an entire How To Buy a Car thing, which I ought to see about publishing, but have never done anything about that.
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