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Fuck JC Penney (Original Post) TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 OP
I Never Shop There dlk Nov 2017 #1
I used to TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #4
Pretty soon MFM008 Nov 2017 #2
Youre kidding, right? jmowreader Nov 2017 #11
Agreed. Just horrible. MontanaMama Nov 2017 #3
I would take a bullet in the head TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #6
I WILL NOT MontanaMama Nov 2017 #15
Also consider shopping on Etsy crazycatlady Nov 2017 #20
Great tip! MontanaMama Nov 2017 #23
Yes! We need to support our local artists. FM123 Nov 2017 #29
When I was younger I worked retail, although not JCP. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #5
I made a concsious decision to get out of retail very early in my working life OriginalGeek Nov 2017 #7
They are trying to stay alive with any edge they can find elfin Nov 2017 #8
Was about to post this same idea Lithos Nov 2017 #10
And like Sears, it's the debt that's killing them TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #13
Agreed genxlib Nov 2017 #12
Have you ever tried Dickies? TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #16
I've never noticed anything of theirs that leans to dockers style genxlib Nov 2017 #19
I find work appropriate fashion at H&M crazycatlady Nov 2017 #21
I always buy Sears' appliances radical noodle Nov 2017 #31
My local Sears didn't have the best selection last time I went LeftInTX Nov 2017 #34
I like JCP, too - have had a JCP card since the '80s Rhiannon12866 Nov 2017 #35
They are closing stores. Baitball Blogger Nov 2017 #9
I dont remember the last time I shopped on Black Friday but I recall how I felt. Grammy23 Nov 2017 #14
Those fuckers. I'd hate to work there. Kimchijeon Nov 2017 #17
Yes, but most don't open til 5 or 6 TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #18
I used to volunteer to work on holidays when I worked retail crazycatlady Nov 2017 #22
since they bought Eckerd Corporation in Floriduh onethatcares Nov 2017 #24
This is big news. JC Penneys is still in business! Generic Brad Nov 2017 #25
I get the anger at JCP for opening tomorrow ClarendonDem Nov 2017 #26
Target doesn't open til 6 TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #33
I brought two shirts for my Son today at jc penny kimbutgar Nov 2017 #27
What's the difference? Wal-Mart is open all day tomorrow blueinredohio Nov 2017 #28
Wal-Mart is a grocery store as well as everything else TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #32
JC Penney radical noodle Nov 2017 #30
I remember that! Ellen DeGeneres did some clever ads for them and RWers freaked out Rhiannon12866 Nov 2017 #36

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
4. I used to
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 12:26 PM
Nov 2017

They have a pretty good selection of plus size clothes, but no more. I worked in retail for 13 years. People only have a certain number of dollars to spend. They don't spend more just because a store stays open longer.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
11. Youre kidding, right?
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 01:11 PM
Nov 2017

My warehouse has been full of “Black Friday All Month Long” circulars since the 20th of last month.

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
3. Agreed. Just horrible.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 12:26 PM
Nov 2017

I don't even have Thanksgiving with my sister's family any more because they plan to be done and cleaned up from dinner so they can be shopping by 5pm. Miserable.

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
15. I WILL NOT
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 04:06 PM
Nov 2017

shop regular retail this Thurs-Sun unless it is a locally owned business or craft fair. Some of our best local artisans have shows this weekend and I'll be supporting them. Everybody else can pound sand.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
20. Also consider shopping on Etsy
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 05:31 PM
Nov 2017

There's a lot of artisans (shameless plug-- including myself) that have stores on there and in general it is a very supportive community.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
29. Yes! We need to support our local artists.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 09:14 PM
Nov 2017

I also like to shop at the local museum gift shops, especially since the museums don't get arts funding like they used to.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
5. When I was younger I worked retail, although not JCP.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 12:27 PM
Nov 2017

We had a pretty busy November, but from Black Friday until basically the first week in January we were there every day, all day, except December 25 and January 1. I don't miss it.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
7. I made a concsious decision to get out of retail very early in my working life
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 12:40 PM
Nov 2017

and i have never regretted it. There were times I had to work 2 and 3 jobs to make ends meet but my day job was not retail (except for an emergency 9 month stint in a liquor store while I looked for other work). My night jobs were mostly pizza delivery and could pick my own hours at those.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
8. They are trying to stay alive with any edge they can find
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 12:41 PM
Nov 2017

This is the sorry recognition that yet another once-bedrock retailer for the middle class is on the chopping block.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
10. Was about to post this same idea
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 12:52 PM
Nov 2017

They are trying every trick in the book to get one dollar more. They blew the transition to the Internet and with interconnected retail in general and are lost. They are circling the drain, albeit a little farther up than Sears.

L-

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
13. And like Sears, it's the debt that's killing them
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 01:20 PM
Nov 2017

Their sales haven't been all that bad, but the interest payments on their debts is the killer and frankly, I don't think they ever really recovered from their time with Ron Johnson as CEO, from 2011 to 2013. He ran Apple's retail stores, but that is a very different business model than a general department store. His tenure was catastrophic. I think they lost a lot of their core shoppers, who never came back.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
12. Agreed
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 01:19 PM
Nov 2017

JCP and Sears are not long for this world. Many people will not miss them but I have to say that I will.

They are one of the few places that sell practical clothing that fits business casual workplace attire at somewhat reasonable prices. I know this makes me hopelessly old and lacking in style but I don't want the latest fashion. I want classics that can be boring but still useful over time.

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
19. I've never noticed anything of theirs that leans to dockers style
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 05:28 PM
Nov 2017

But as I recall, I think I only see them at Kmart. Which falls into the same problem of going out of business.

I will keep an eye out.

Thanks

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
21. I find work appropriate fashion at H&M
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 05:33 PM
Nov 2017

Yes they have some crazy stuff too but they have the basics as well.

LeftInTX

(25,372 posts)
34. My local Sears didn't have the best selection last time I went
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 03:29 AM
Nov 2017

I did find a stick vac, which I like. However, when I checked out the garden tools/supplies, it was pretty bleak.

Our lawn mower is a Craftsman. It operates on two large batteries. It has held up better than our last two Black and Deckers.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
35. I like JCP, too - have had a JCP card since the '80s
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 07:38 AM
Nov 2017

They have terrific sales - forget Wal-Mart - and I like their jeans and sweaters. And I'm actually wearing warm flannels I got there right this moment...

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
14. I dont remember the last time I shopped on Black Friday but I recall how I felt.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 01:37 PM
Nov 2017

And this was years ago before it turned into the stampede it is today. You'd Have to anesthetize me and carry me in on a stretcher to get me anywhere close to a retail outlet in the next few days. I realize there are people who love the whole experience but I am not one of them. I will let them have their fun while I pour another cup of coffee and relax in my recliner. I MIGHT eat another piece of pumpkin pie.

Kimchijeon

(1,606 posts)
17. Those fuckers. I'd hate to work there.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 04:59 PM
Nov 2017

I know lots of retailers do this though and I think it's deplorable .

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
18. Yes, but most don't open til 5 or 6
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 05:03 PM
Nov 2017

At least that way their employees can have Thanksgiving lunch with their friends and family. 2pm is just too early. Frankly, I can't imagine anyone wanting to shop that early either.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
22. I used to volunteer to work on holidays when I worked retail
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 05:34 PM
Nov 2017

In most cases (New Year's Day, 4th of July, etc) it was time and a half. On some days (when I worked at a 24 hour drugstore) it was double time for Christmas eve evening (after 5) and Christmas Day. I volunteered for those shifts.

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
24. since they bought Eckerd Corporation in Floriduh
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 07:50 PM
Nov 2017

and ran it into the ground I haven't shopped there.

F...k them....... Although I like the people that work there, even if I don't know them, the honchos are major sucks.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
25. This is big news. JC Penneys is still in business!
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 08:22 PM
Nov 2017

It's probably been close to ten years since I set foot in one of their stores.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
26. I get the anger at JCP for opening tomorrow
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 08:41 PM
Nov 2017

But opening on Thanksgiving has become the trend, and JCP isn't Apple, or even Target, and can't afford to close when its competitors are open.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
33. Target doesn't open til 6
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 09:42 PM
Nov 2017

Most of the other stores aren't open before 5. TJ Maxx and Marshall's aren't open at all.

kimbutgar

(21,161 posts)
27. I brought two shirts for my Son today at jc penny
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 08:44 PM
Nov 2017

They were special priced 12.99 and then I got rewards discounts and 25% off for using my credit. Bill came to $11.73. I was shocked it was so low. That said I never will set good in a department store thanksgiving day or the day after. I thinks it bs to shop on a national holiday. I hope the workers are at least getting time and a half pay.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,202 posts)
32. Wal-Mart is a grocery store as well as everything else
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 09:38 PM
Nov 2017

Many grocery stores are open til 3 or 4 tomorrow. Walmart's Black Friday specials don't start until 6 pm. I believe you can only shop for groceries before then.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
30. JC Penney
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 09:20 PM
Nov 2017

took a stand for gay couples by featuring them in ads. They were boycotted by RW-ers. Lots of people have to work on holidays, my mother always worked holidays and we worked around it. When I was a teen she regularly volunteered to work for those with little kids. To each his own, but I wouldn't boycott for this. JMHO.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
36. I remember that! Ellen DeGeneres did some clever ads for them and RWers freaked out
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 07:43 AM
Nov 2017

The next time I bought something there I made a point of telling the young woman at the check out how much I liked the ads - and she agreed with me, said the employees got a chance to preview them

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