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NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:39 AM Dec 2017

The Walking Dead 8.8 "How It's Gotta Be" (Spoiler Alert - Mid Season Finale)

Every story and battle comes crashing together

The spoiler sites are not publishing spoilers for this mid season finale - not for any legal reasons, but because the finale has a huge shocker in it.





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The Walking Dead 8.8 "How It's Gotta Be" (Spoiler Alert - Mid Season Finale) (Original Post) NewJeffCT Dec 2017 OP
I'm ready to get this war over... FarPoint Dec 2017 #1
I think the midseason finale NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #2
some articles from the past week NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #3
A few more articles NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #4
A few memes NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #5
hmm NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #6
I'm here LoveMyCali Dec 2017 #7
hi NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #8
I haven't heard anything LoveMyCali Dec 2017 #9
I'm here, but we have to wait for baby bedtime to start it. Iggo Dec 2017 #10
OK NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #11
2 flashbacks to Rick and Carl NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #12
You know, I am having PTSD over Abraham and Glenn's death. Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #13
Bad sign NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #14
Judith is another possibility. Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #21
Enid and Aaron head to Oceanside NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #15
Or, it allows some of the roque members to set their own course. Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #18
Negan arrives at Alexandria NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #16
What the hell? LoveMyCali Dec 2017 #17
Im not sure NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #19
Damn NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #20
Shades of the season 6 finale NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #22
I know. They better come up with something new. Not just another shocker mutiliation from Negan. Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #24
Not looking good for Karl. Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #23
I cant take much more of this. redwitch Dec 2017 #25
Dwight and Team Rogue NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #27
Are there hints Maggie will have the baby soon? Because boy is she nesting right now! bettyellen Dec 2017 #26
Ezekial is on Talking Dead. Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #28
Now Michonne is being set up. No, it's Rick, going into the house where Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #29
It's okay, for now. Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #31
Oh no--can't watch. Laffy Kat Dec 2017 #30
NOOOOOOOOO. Laffy Kat Dec 2017 #32
wow NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #33
THAT's when it happened! Baitball Blogger Dec 2017 #35
Oh, man. That sucks. Liberal Veteran Dec 2017 #34
... TDale313 Dec 2017 #36
Yay!!! Iggo Dec 2017 #37
They could really have come up with a more dramatic end to Carl than a little dumb bite though Baclava Dec 2017 #41
I agree. Weak writing. Weak execution. They could have and should have done better. Iggo Dec 2017 #42
Chandler Riggs says there will be one more episode with Carl Baclava Dec 2017 #43
Shoulda had him go out like a complete boss, at least. Iggo Dec 2017 #44
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss! HOLY SHIT! bet the comic book followers never saw that coming Baclava Dec 2017 #38
I've heard that Chandler Riggs and his father NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #39
This move did seem to come out of the blue, don't see how killing him moves the story along Baclava Dec 2017 #40

LoveMyCali

(2,015 posts)
7. I'm here
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:34 PM
Dec 2017

Anxious for the mid-season finale to start. I'm wondering who will die that will piss me off.

LoveMyCali

(2,015 posts)
9. I haven't heard anything
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:39 PM
Dec 2017

but I'm a big Rick fan so I'm hoping both he and Michone make it out alive. I'm willing to sacrifice Carl. lol

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
12. 2 flashbacks to Rick and Carl
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:06 PM
Dec 2017

In previous big episodes, when they have flashbacks, it means a person in the flashback dies. Not a good sign for Carl or Rick

Baitball Blogger

(46,723 posts)
13. You know, I am having PTSD over Abraham and Glenn's death.
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:14 PM
Dec 2017

I don't think I'm going to take another big hit well.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
15. Enid and Aaron head to Oceanside
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:19 PM
Dec 2017

and then Enid mistakenly kills their leader, Natania. Oops - allies lost?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
20. Damn
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:38 PM
Dec 2017

Carl asks Negan to kill him - and then says it's because he hopes it can make things better between both sides

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
22. Shades of the season 6 finale
Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:50 PM
Dec 2017

the Saviors are everywhere and ambushing The Kingdom, Hilltop and Alexandria

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
41. They could really have come up with a more dramatic end to Carl than a little dumb bite though
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 10:58 PM
Dec 2017

People are all crawling up Gimples ass over this


Still Confused About That Tragic 'Walking Dead' Death? You're Not Alone

More or less the entire first half of season 8 takes place over a 48 hour window.

The scene with Rick and Carl talking with the gas can is before Carl is bit.

Carl is bit either on day one or day two (I’m still not sure which) when he is helping Siddiq clear walkers in the woods after going back to leave him food.

Carl doesn’t really react in the scene, but that’s clearly when it happens. He tells no one. This happened in episode six, two weeks ago.

He brings Siddiq back to Alexandria and has him stay in the sewer until he can clear his arrival with his father/Michonne.

The day of the attack, one or two days into the stomach bite (we don’t really know how long the infection takes to consume you in that location), Carl writes his dad a letter knowing that he’s going to die. I believe he actually writes multiple letters to other people as well. The show plays this off like he’s considering running away because he doesn’t like who Rick has become.

Carl concocts an escape plan that allows everyone else to leave while he stays behind. He offers himself up to Negan as the “punishment” sacrifice, and does all of this because he knows he’s dead anyway.

Carl is disoriented by the grenade blasts of the Alexandria siege, but also because he’s 1-2 days into a walker bite, and the fever is starting to take him (you don’t turn into a zombie from a bite, the infection kills you, then you resurrect).

By the time we see Carl in the sewer he’s on his last legs. It’s Carl who says “I brought him here, that’s when it happened,” which is a reference to when he got the bite in episode 6.

Chandler Riggs says there will be one more episode with Carl, either through flashbacks or as he’s dying. But he is dying. No head-fake, no secret immunity.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/12/12/still-confused-about-that-tragic-walking-dead-death-youre-not-alone/#518eb4b061a2

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
43. Chandler Riggs says there will be one more episode with Carl
Fri Dec 15, 2017, 08:29 PM
Dec 2017

... either through flashbacks or as he’s dying. But he is dying.

"No head-fake, no secret immunity"

so there it is

Ricks boy dies....kind of shocking in the scheme of things

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
38. yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss! HOLY SHIT! bet the comic book followers never saw that coming
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 07:22 AM
Dec 2017

With Judith being Shane's kid that leaves Rick with nothing - maybe he goes psycho again

Alexandria is being bombed and burned to the ground, the Kingdom is Negan;s new home and its people will be slaves...so that leaves Maggie and the hilltop as the last refuge

good stuff


 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
40. This move did seem to come out of the blue, don't see how killing him moves the story along
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:59 PM
Dec 2017

but then Carl should never have lived after being gut shot from the hunting rifle on the farm

but then we never would have had that great scene of him killing Lori after she died giving birth

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