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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 12:34 AM Dec 2017

Why Experts Advise Against Dogs Sleeping on Human Beds


Oh, and chihuahuas like to burrow...



https://www.vetinfo.com/dogs-sleep-human-bed.html

Allowing your dog to sleep on your bed could send mixed messages. It lowers your "status" within "the pack". This may make your dog more likely to challenge your authority. If your dog has ever shown aggression towards you, he needs to know who's in charge. Allowing him on your bed only defeats this purpose



But the funniest part of an otherwise BS article are the comments after the article.

What a bunch of poo poo. 4 small Chihuahuas and a cat sleep with us. No allergy problems in my house, only my honey snores and the only one to challenge my authority is the cat.



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Why Experts Advise Against Dogs Sleeping on Human Beds (Original Post) NightWatcher Dec 2017 OP
Yeah, sounds like a bunch of bullshit. Aristus Dec 2017 #1
Hogwash article. tazkcmo Dec 2017 #2
"Ex-pert": 'ex-', meaning 'former'....... lastlib Dec 2017 #19
If I showed the cats the door, they would cry all night. spooky3 Dec 2017 #3
yup Skittles Dec 2017 #40
😺😺😺 spooky3 Jan 2018 #44
Try and stop them. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #4
I sleep with three cats who magically assume the size of water buffalo when the lights go out Pachamama Dec 2017 #13
Experts can think what they want... chillfactor Dec 2017 #5
I'm sooo jealous. nocalflea Dec 2017 #11
Too late they're already up. dem4decades Dec 2017 #6
Not only do our dog and cats sleep with us, one of the cats thinks I am her bed. appleannie1943 Dec 2017 #7
Depends on the dogs breed and personality.... alittlelark Dec 2017 #8
Our 75 lb pitbull sleeps in her own bed DBoon Dec 2017 #9
My husky/heeler cross puppy is so affectionate - he's about 50 lbs. womanofthehills Dec 2017 #10
the evening shift crew on schedule! peacebuzzard Dec 2017 #26
My cat comes around meowing at about 9:00 p.m. wanting to go to the bathroom Sophia4 Dec 2017 #12
Our family's cat when I was a kid had a ritual like that. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #21
That's our cat. When I go to get her in the morning, she is still sleeping and so Sophia4 Dec 2017 #22
It is much safer to just keep your cat inside. tammywammy Jan 2018 #47
this might be a good idea when establishing the alpha JNelson6563 Dec 2017 #14
I agree; I've see it too. shanny Dec 2017 #16
Dog training get the red out Dec 2017 #15
Dog training, so true. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2018 #43
YES! GaYellowDawg Jan 2018 #45
2 doxies allow me to sleep with them TBA Dec 2017 #17
I guess your doxies hired a human whisperer Ilsa Dec 2017 #33
Humans and animals/pets are a great comfort to each other. democratisphere Dec 2017 #18
This "alpha" crap is such bs!! n/t retread Dec 2017 #20
Just out of interest, in wolf/wild dog packs, where does the alpha sleep? SwissTony Dec 2017 #23
In wild dog/wolf packs the alpha initially establishes dominance by ritualized physical aggression stevenleser Dec 2017 #36
But the article was about sleeping with your dogs. SwissTony Dec 2017 #38
The question is irrelevant. Dominance is already established and is not in question. nt stevenleser Dec 2017 #39
The cat doesn't challenge your authority, the cat is the authority mythology Dec 2017 #24
My dog refused to cuddle with me on the bed after I farted. milestogo Dec 2017 #25
They don't like the sound. LuckyCharms Dec 2017 #34
Yes! milestogo Dec 2017 #37
That is so true! yallerdawg Dec 2017 #35
I am sick in bed with flu or bad cold Freddie Dec 2017 #27
We sleep with 2 beagles on the bed every night and we all love it and beaglelover Dec 2017 #28
Same here MustLoveBeagles Dec 2017 #32
A pair of daschunds in ours. Bedwarmers. bullimiami Dec 2017 #29
Why even get a pet, if not get extra cuddles at night elfin Dec 2017 #30
I don't let my big male dog sleep on Ilsa Dec 2017 #31
I've had 9 dogs in life, only now/Yorkie had one sleeping in the bed, bedtime routine: UTUSN Dec 2017 #41
This alpha crap is way over done! Until my dogs get a credit card, grow opposable thumbs, and retread Jan 2018 #42
I would allow my dog on my bed (of course) but I taught her to wait to be Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #46

lastlib

(23,259 posts)
19. "Ex-pert": 'ex-', meaning 'former'.......
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 07:37 AM
Dec 2017

'spurt', being a 'drip under pressure'....so, 'expert'='former drip under pressure'.....! .

me.....

spooky3

(34,462 posts)
3. If I showed the cats the door, they would cry all night.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 12:46 AM
Dec 2017

There's never been any question as to who is calling the shots around here. Even new foster cats beg to be let out of their "safe rooms" usually within 24 hours.

Skittles

(153,170 posts)
40. yup
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 09:05 PM
Dec 2017

I was on an international conference call at work....at one point, you could hear a cat wailing.....Edward said, why don't you lock him in a room? The guy running the call said, "You've never had a cat before, have you, Edward?" That cracked everyone up.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,783 posts)
4. Try and stop them.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 12:47 AM
Dec 2017

Pets are family and if they want to sleep on their humans' beds they should unless there are allergy problems. I sleep with three cats who magically assume the size of water buffalo when the lights go out, so that's a bit of a challenge, but I like having them there anyhow. And the purring is nice.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
13. I sleep with three cats who magically assume the size of water buffalo when the lights go out
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 04:58 AM
Dec 2017


I have one of those magical cats too...

chillfactor

(7,578 posts)
5. Experts can think what they want...
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 12:49 AM
Dec 2017

my precious litlle girl sleeps with me every night....a 4# Chihuahua named Fajita..I live in the Southwest and she is my strength for the day ahead when I crawl out of bed in the morning. She gives me unqualified love and as I read into the quiet morning hours, she is snuggled up next to me...content, happy, and fast asleep. She knows when I am happy and when I am sad I do not know what I would do without her.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
11. I'm sooo jealous.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 03:22 AM
Dec 2017

Love me a doggie. Been awhile though.

Knows your moods sounds like the springer I grew up with.( My bestie once passed a tick on to me - thus my nickname: flea ).

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
7. Not only do our dog and cats sleep with us, one of the cats thinks I am her bed.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 01:08 AM
Dec 2017

She was abandoned at birth and I raised her.

womanofthehills

(8,731 posts)
10. My husky/heeler cross puppy is so affectionate - he's about 50 lbs.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 02:22 AM
Dec 2017

When I get into bed, he leaps on the bed and puts his head by my neck to cuddle for about 2 minutes, then goes down to the bottom of the bed for a few minutes and then to his bed. After he does all this, my cat gets on the bed to sleep with me. By morning, my cat has moved to another location and big puppy jumps back on the bed until i get up.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
12. My cat comes around meowing at about 9:00 p.m. wanting to go to the bathroom
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 03:37 AM
Dec 2017

in which she spends the night.

I think it is the oddest thing. We had several cats years ago. This is the first cat I have ever seen who wants to go to her own room and bed at night.

Has anyone else had such a cat?

We got her from the Humane Society in September. She was at that time listed as one year and a half. So she already had her habits. She had not been outside. We are taking her out on the leash. I hope to be able to let her go on her own in a week or two. I just want to make sure I can watch her now while she discovers the world outside the house.

Anyone hear of a cat that goes to her own room at night?

She gets all excited about it and leads me there. It's just the oddest thing ever in my view.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,783 posts)
21. Our family's cat when I was a kid had a ritual like that.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 01:09 PM
Dec 2017

My dad had allergies so the cat wasn't allowed in the bedrooms, but she had a place in the basement laundry room - there was a bed for her on top of the dryer. She especially liked to sleep there when the dryer was running, and once she managed to turn it on by herself (whether accidentally or deliberately we will never know). Anyhow, every night at bedtime she'd stand at the top of the basement steps and meow until someone, usually Mom, walked her down the steps and "tucked her in." In the morning she'd be waiting behind the basement door to hang out with the family for the day.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
22. That's our cat. When I go to get her in the morning, she is still sleeping and so
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 01:14 PM
Dec 2017

happy to see me. It's just so odd.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
47. It is much safer to just keep your cat inside.
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 01:33 AM
Jan 2018

Less chance they’ll get hurt, hit by a car, attacked, less chance to get FIV, etc. Cats are perfectly happy inside.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
14. this might be a good idea when establishing the alpha
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 04:59 AM
Dec 2017

But some people don't care to be the alpha in the dynamic. But I do think it is possible to let dog sleep on bed and remain human alpha but it would have to be different in regard to other things (like food).

I think it's wise for humans to establish themselves as alpha with dogs if for no other reason the dog will listen to the human and thus possibly avoid great harm. I have a friend who has 2 dogs that don't listen at all and she in NOT their alpha by any means. This has resulted in harm to the dogs and herself. It's sad to see really. She loves them so but is a terrible owner because of the she's-not-their-alpha issues.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
16. I agree; I've see it too.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 06:26 AM
Dec 2017

The dog of a non-alpha friend was VERY aggressive toward visitors, and particularly her boyfriend. Terrorized everybody.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,868 posts)
43. Dog training, so true.
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 11:54 AM
Jan 2018

I've come to dislike dogs intensely because of so many people who can't be bothered to do the most basic training of their dogs. I do not want to listen to my neighbor's dog barking for hours at a time. I do not want a dog to jump up on me when I visit someone.

Too many people do not get that not everyone loves their dog as much as they do. And never tell my your dog (or your cat or your gerbil) is your child, because it's not.

GaYellowDawg

(4,449 posts)
45. YES!
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 01:20 AM
Jan 2018
And never tell my your dog (or your cat or your gerbil) is your child, because it's not.


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TBA

(825 posts)
17. 2 doxies allow me to sleep with them
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 06:50 AM
Dec 2017

In their queen human bed but I must behave and provide unlimited scratching or risk being kicked out.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
33. I guess your doxies hired a human whisperer
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 07:30 PM
Dec 2017

to get you to behave!
I love having my female lab in bed. She's small for a lab, and so sweet. But she snores and makes other weird noises in her sleep.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
18. Humans and animals/pets are a great comfort to each other.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 06:57 AM
Dec 2017

I would never break-up my menagerie of fur and flesh in the bed.

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
23. Just out of interest, in wolf/wild dog packs, where does the alpha sleep?
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 04:06 PM
Dec 2017

Does he sleep with the pack or does he rent a room?

My dogs have always slept with me and I've always been the alpha.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
36. In wild dog/wolf packs the alpha initially establishes dominance by ritualized physical aggression
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 07:54 PM
Dec 2017

Thereafter...the alpha male rarely has cause for aggression or violence toward subordinate wolves, instead asserting his dominance through a series of ritualized gestures, such as the alpha roll, scruff shaking and staring.

Only when new members arrive does the ritualized aggression to establish rank occur.

http://animals.mom.me/wolf-packs-pecking-order-3463.html

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
25. My dog refused to cuddle with me on the bed after I farted.
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 06:16 PM
Dec 2017

I kid you not. He's not really much of a bed sleeper, but every now and then he'll come up on the bed next to me and cuddle and then leave after a while.

Unless I fart - then he leaves immediately.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
37. Yes!
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 07:57 PM
Dec 2017

I didn't think it was the smell, since dogs don't seem to find that sort of thing offensive. But the sound drove him away.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
35. That is so true!
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 07:33 PM
Dec 2017

Our dog worships my wife, but when she passes gas (like every night!) that dog is gone!

I didn't know she passed gas like that - until after I married her!

She doesn't post to or look at political sites, so I'm safe to report these things.

Freddie

(9,269 posts)
27. I am sick in bed with flu or bad cold
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 06:26 PM
Dec 2017

Chills, aches, coughing. Our cats Charlie and Andy have been snuggled here with me all day. Nothing better when you feel like crap.

beaglelover

(3,487 posts)
28. We sleep with 2 beagles on the bed every night and we all love it and
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 07:09 PM
Dec 2017

no one challenges my authority in the household.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,628 posts)
32. Same here
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 07:28 PM
Dec 2017

I have two beagles as well. The female curls up with us at night most of the time. The male does when he isn't feeling well or is frightened by a thunderstorm. They're both 11 years old so it's a bit late in the game to change that arrangement. They consider my husband the alpha.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
30. Why even get a pet, if not get extra cuddles at night
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 07:21 PM
Dec 2017

All ours knew to leave when amorous activities commenced with my spouse -- then we both welcomed the critter(s) back.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
31. I don't let my big male dog sleep on
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 07:25 PM
Dec 2017

the bed unless there is a thunderstorm. He can be aggressive, so we exercise more strict rules with him. My female dog is passive. She will defend herself, but she doesn't challenge authority. The worst aspect of her sleeping with us is her snoring. She's a cuddler.

UTUSN

(70,720 posts)
41. I've had 9 dogs in life, only now/Yorkie had one sleeping in the bed, bedtime routine:
Sun Dec 31, 2017, 11:34 PM
Dec 2017

Whether I want to or not, there's an enforced PLAY TIME, where we tug-o'war with the covers and assorted squeak-toys, with his gnawing on my LEFT (only) hand (I've got scratches and wounds). But as soon as I scratch the belly, it's all over and he goes into some kind of meditational state, soon after which it's all over and he retreats to his corner of the bed. He doesn't mind my tossing and turning.

The other two, elderly Chihuahua and mini-weiner, have their own pupper beds, have never done this and have not expressed interest in any of these goings-on.

retread

(3,763 posts)
42. This alpha crap is way over done! Until my dogs get a credit card, grow opposable thumbs, and
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 07:47 AM
Jan 2018

stop dissolving into quivering masses of goo when I come home, I am pretty much the "leader".

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
46. I would allow my dog on my bed (of course) but I taught her to wait to be
Wed Jan 3, 2018, 01:28 AM
Jan 2018

invited. After all the training etc and there was no question as to who was boss then she could come up whenever.

Now I can see the point of this if the dog is aggressive like they are saying....but really it's a case by case basis. To just say that is what it is for all is just absurd.

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