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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:20 AM Jun 2018

I feel guilty.

I am up in Maine babysitting my sister's kids. Ranging from 11-15. There are 4 of them and another cousin aged 13. They are all really sweet children and for the most part well behaved. There is absolutely nothing wrong with them.

That being said, I have been single and childless for most of my adult life and I am used to order, peace and quiet. I do not like being around noise, chaos, messes and unpredictability. That is why I do not have kids. However, I hate myself for being annoyed with them. I know they are not doing anything wrong, they are just being kids. I am the one with the problem.

I just can't wait to leave today. I think the smartest thing I have ever done was to remain childless. I just have no patience for it. I'm sorry, I think that those of you who are parents are amazing. It takes almost superhuman effort to keep up such patience year in and out. I just feel like a really bad person. The kids are great. I just can't deal with it.

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I feel guilty. (Original Post) smirkymonkey Jun 2018 OP
Don't feel guilty. thucythucy Jun 2018 #1
Thank you! I have not been at all unkind to them. I am very aware of that since I was smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #11
I'm pretty much the same way CanonRay Jun 2018 #39
Dear smirkymoney, Ohiogal Jun 2018 #2
excellent reply Phentex Jun 2018 #4
I wish more people would think long and hard about their suitability for parenthood. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #12
I agree and know a lot of people who should never have Duppers Jun 2018 #21
I feel your pain. zanana1 Jun 2018 #3
At first, it was just going to be the one-year old puppy. I seem to have endless patience for her smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #13
At least you didn't cave to the pressure and have some kids CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #5
Unbelievable Ohiogal Jun 2018 #6
I find it to be very cruel CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #8
Really! It is nobody's business. Sometimes I think people are jealous that we have so smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #14
You are not alone. You are not a bad person. nt Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #7
I'm with you. I don't dislike children but I don't like the chaos they bring. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #9
Thank you! It only reinforces my belief that I would have been a terrible mother. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #15
You've done the right thing for yourself, elleng Jun 2018 #10
No, I am kind to them, but they gave me an awful scare today by going missing and I was smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #16
Oh my GOODNESS! That would have sent me over the edge! elleng Jun 2018 #17
They had been talking about it since last night. It's an annual tradition and not usually smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #19
You have every reason to be angry with them Phoenix61 Jun 2018 #27
They don't seem to understand that you are angry because you are worried. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #29
That's why the rule was there, to keep them safe Phoenix61 Jun 2018 #32
I was the same. Kids are always pushing the boundaries. That is the way they are. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #35
Yeah, I never had children. Would have Phoenix61 Jun 2018 #37
I have two children and I will be the first to tell anyone: Laffy Kat Jun 2018 #18
Show me a baby and I will politely say something about how cute he/she is The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #20
Ha! I agree with you. Duppers Jun 2018 #22
I totally relate to that. I am so uncomfortable around babies. I just have no smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #23
For me, the choice is easy. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #24
Oh yes, you make it so simple! smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #25
You're human. I respect your choice. No need for guilt. Just keep in mind you were a child once... Anon-C Jun 2018 #26
But there'll be no one to take care of you when you're old donkeypoofed Jun 2018 #28
Oh, FFS! Not this shit again! smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #31
You can't count on children taking care of elderly parents. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #34
I love the chaos, messes d. Don't notice the noise. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #30
And I admire you for that. I really do. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #33
More power to you; somebody has to teach kindergarten. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2018 #36
You seem like an honest person. Cracklin Charlie Jun 2018 #38
They are very sweet and always give me a big hug and kiss when I come to smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #40
Don't feel guilty. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2018 #41
Thanks! I kind of feel like I was tricked a bit. smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #42
I don't blame you for feeling used. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2018 #43
Yes! You know, every time I visit my siblings and spend time with them and their children, it smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #44

thucythucy

(8,055 posts)
1. Don't feel guilty.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:26 AM
Jun 2018

It is what it is.

They are who they are, you are who you are, and part of being who you are is preferring "order, peace, and quiet." So you made the right decision in not having kids.

I'm the same way. The trick is to not let your irritation show, not around them anyway. As long as you can do that, it's all good. And even if you do occasionally show some irritation, a timely apology and explanation might actually do them some good. It lets them now adults aren't infallible, that they have feelings, that different people have different "buttons"--and it models good behavior for when anger or irritation of impatience might get the better of them. "It happens to all of us" is always a good lesson to teach and learn.

Best wishes.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. Thank you! I have not been at all unkind to them. I am very aware of that since I was
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:13 PM
Jun 2018

an abused child and would never want to do that to anyone else.

However they gave me a scare today. They went out to ride their bikes into town and said they wouldn't go to the jumping bridge, but they went missing and I could not contact them. Guess where they went? The jumping bridge. I am not their parents and don't have any control over them but for a while I was furious until I heard back from them and knew they were ok.

I could not deal with that kind of stress on a regular basis. I so cannot wait to get back to my quiet, peaceful apartment in the city.

Thanks for your kindness!

CanonRay

(14,103 posts)
39. I'm pretty much the same way
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:32 PM
Jun 2018

It's the unpredictability that gets me. You never know when they are going to do something stupid or crazy. I was able to coach my nephew's little league team...that was enough for me. Don't beat yourself up, it's just the way you are wired.

Ohiogal

(32,000 posts)
2. Dear smirkymoney,
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:26 AM
Jun 2018

You are NOT a bad person to feel that way! Ask any parent what they would like most and they'd probably tell you they'd like some order, peace and quiet!

I personally admire people who know that the best thing for them is to not have kids. Society pressures us women to get married and have kids, and it takes a strong person with a good sense of knowing yourself and knowing what you want to stand firm. Don't beat yourself up! I think dealing with a bunch of kids that age, even when they're good kids, would tax the patience of a saint!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. I wish more people would think long and hard about their suitability for parenthood.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:16 PM
Jun 2018

I think the world would be a much better place. I am kind to them, but I could never put up with them full time. They just stress me out too much. People should know their limits and assess their qualifications for what is one of the most important jobs in the world.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
21. I agree and know a lot of people who should never have
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:11 PM
Jun 2018

Become parents. Mine included.

It is stressful and some jerks take it out on kids by beating them.

I congrats you for doing the right thing.

👍

zanana1

(6,121 posts)
3. I feel your pain.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:29 AM
Jun 2018

When someone asks me to babysit I just say "Sure. I have plenty of rope". I'm childless and happy about it, too. I really think kids are cute and I love hearing people talk about the funny things they do. I do not, however, believe every parent who says "He/she is so smart" or puts their one- year-old on the phone with me. I used to feel guilty, too. I'm old now, so I can feel any way I want.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. At first, it was just going to be the one-year old puppy. I seem to have endless patience for her
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:18 PM
Jun 2018

for some reason. But as time went on my sister let me know that one child after the other decided to stay. I just don't live my life at such a level of complication so when I am thrown into it, it throws me off balance. I don't quite know how to cope.

CountAllVotes

(20,874 posts)
5. At least you didn't cave to the pressure and have some kids
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:51 AM
Jun 2018

I'm in the same situation. I never wanted any kids nor did my husband. It is too late for us now anyway but I know what you mean.

Comments ranging from:
Is there something wrong?
Why don't you have any kids?
Are you planning to have a family soon?
etc.

I have my reasons as does my husband. It really is NONE OF THEIR DAMNED BUSINESS. That is what I happen to think!



CountAllVotes

(20,874 posts)
8. I find it to be very cruel
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jun 2018

Do they really want to know why?

No they don't. They are plain assed nosy is right!

Fuck them. Fuck all of them!!!

And no, there is nothing "wrong".



 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. Really! It is nobody's business. Sometimes I think people are jealous that we have so
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:20 PM
Jun 2018

much free time and can sleep in on weekends!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
9. I'm with you. I don't dislike children but I don't like the chaos they bring.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jun 2018

Good for those who can stand it (obviously I wouldn't be here if my own parents had felt that way - I was definitely a bringer of chaos), but not everyone should be a parent, and nobody should feel guilty about not enjoying being around children for extended periods of time. I did some babysitting as a teenager, and while I always got along fine with the kids, I was relieved when I could either put them to bed so I could read a book in peace, or the parents came back and I could go home and read a book in peace.

Unfortunately there has always been an enormous amount of social pressure on people to marry and have children, and if you don't you're criticized as being selfish or weird. But it's like any other career choice: Some people shouldn't be doctors or airline pilots or presidents, and some people shouldn't be parents. I'd have been a terrible mother and my children would have grown up to be neurotic at best, serial killers at worst. Don't feel guilty! I sure as hell don't.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
15. Thank you! It only reinforces my belief that I would have been a terrible mother.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:24 PM
Jun 2018

I think I will be great with them when they are older, but I don't quite relate to young children (these kids range from 10-15). They really are good kids, but I am just not cut out for the task of taking care of children. It's so unnatural for me and I think they sense it too.

I think I made the right choice by remaining childless. Thanks!

elleng

(130,914 posts)
10. You've done the right thing for yourself,
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 01:33 PM
Jun 2018

and feeling annoyed etc by their activity confirms it, AND is normal and fine.

No problem unless you behave inappropriately with them.

You are NOT a bad person.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
16. No, I am kind to them, but they gave me an awful scare today by going missing and I was
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:27 PM
Jun 2018

ready to kill them. I was just relieved to hear they were ok. There is this "bridge jumping" tradition up here in Kennebunkport, ME and they said they wouldn't go but they did. It wasn't a high bridge and not very dangerous, but they said they would wait until my brother got back and they didn't. Luckily everything turned out ok, but for a few hours I didn't know where they were and I don't drive or have a car so I was panicked.

Thanks again!

elleng

(130,914 posts)
17. Oh my GOODNESS! That would have sent me over the edge!
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:31 PM
Jun 2018

I'm a mother of 2 30-somethings, and grandmother of 2,3, and 4 year olds, so kind of used to chaos (tho I don't see them very often,) but I IMAGINE all the stuff they can get into.

BRIDGE JUMPING in Kennebunkport, OMG!!!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. They had been talking about it since last night. It's an annual tradition and not usually
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:41 PM
Jun 2018

very dangerous, but they are much younger than the usual jumpers. They were warned by my brother and sister in law not to go today until they returned from the soccer match, but they went unsupervised anyway. I could ring their little necks. I am just glad they are safe and sound!

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
27. You have every reason to be angry with them
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jun 2018

They did something they were told not to do because it isn't safe. I don't believe in hitting a child, ever, but.. a good ass chewing for kids that age seems totally appropriate. Parent's typically don't appreciate it when kids stress out their care provider.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
29. They don't seem to understand that you are angry because you are worried.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:47 PM
Jun 2018

I was not angry because they broke the rules. I was angry because I was terrified that something happened to them and that I couldn't protect them. If they had only communicated with me, I would have been much more open to what they did.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
32. That's why the rule was there, to keep them safe
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:54 PM
Jun 2018

It's perfectly fine you were angry with them. They made a bad choice that could have turned out to be a fatal choice. Not wanting to piss off parents and caregivers keeps kids out of all kinds of trouble. My mom's attitude when I had managed to piss her off was along the lines of "Well, I told you not to do that. What did you think was going to happen?" Not the least bit apologetic. And, as an adult, I can honestly say she shouldn't have been. I was an adventurous little shit and was responsible for many a gray hair on that sweet lady's head.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
35. I was the same. Kids are always pushing the boundaries. That is the way they are.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:58 PM
Jun 2018

I would not expect them to be any other way. However, I am very neurotic and I can't help but worry. I could never be a parent because I would never let them out of their room. I would be too afraid.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
37. Yeah, I never had children. Would have
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:01 PM
Jun 2018

liked to but it didn't work out that way. I have no idea how my parents let loose. I got a car my senior year in high school and would drive 90 miles to the beach for the day. No cell phone. Sheesh! No wonder they had grey hair.

Laffy Kat

(16,381 posts)
18. I have two children and I will be the first to tell anyone:
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 02:36 PM
Jun 2018

It's not for everyone. Think of all the freedom you have and money you save!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
20. Show me a baby and I will politely say something about how cute he/she is
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 03:23 PM
Jun 2018

even if I actually think the baby isn't especially cute. Some of them just aren't. If you ask me if I'd like to hold the baby I will probably politely decline, saying something like "Oh, I don't want to upset him; he doesn't know me and he might be afraid to be held by a stranger." But the truth is that I'm uncomfortable pretending I enjoy making squeaky small talk to babies, and also I don't want to be drooled or puked on. Show me a kitten or a puppy, though, and I'll insist on holding and cuddling it and rubbing its adorable little belly and generally making a sappy fool of myself. I suppose I'm an awful, unmotherly person, too; but to me puppies and kittens are way more adorable than human babies. Maybe it's the fur.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. I totally relate to that. I am so uncomfortable around babies. I just have no
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jun 2018

motherly instinct whatsoever, but show me a puppy and I can't keep my hands off of it. I am so patient with dogs. No matter what they do, I never get stressed out or lose my temper. Kids are a completely different story. I guess I made the right decision by remaining childless.

I think there are a lot of people who should have thought about it a bit more. There are too many abused, neglected kids in the world. I don't hate them at all, I just realize that I am not cut out for parenthood.

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
26. You're human. I respect your choice. No need for guilt. Just keep in mind you were a child once...
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:42 PM
Jun 2018

...its their world, too, and they have a right to be children in it.



donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
28. But there'll be no one to take care of you when you're old
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:47 PM
Jun 2018

That's the only thing I feel bad about. But while you're young you can travel and enjoy the childless life. Life's a trade-off.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. Oh, FFS! Not this shit again!
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:53 PM
Jun 2018

First of all, a lot of children are not there for their elderly parents in the first place. Secondly, I may never live to old age. Thirdly, If I do live to old age, I might be self-sufficient just like everyone else in my family has been. Lastly, if I do need someone to take care of me when I am old, I would rather check out than be a burden on someone. I would never want to be dependent upon someone.

But if it makes you feel superior to judge the single and childless, go ahead and enjoy yourself.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
34. You can't count on children taking care of elderly parents.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:57 PM
Jun 2018

Nursing homes are full of people whose kids rarely (if ever) even visit them, let alone take care of them. That's a really lousy reason to have kids.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
30. I love the chaos, messes d. Don't notice the noise.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:51 PM
Jun 2018

I just love taking care of kids. They epitomize creativity and energy. And I love that.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
33. And I admire you for that. I really do.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:55 PM
Jun 2018

It requires endless patience which is something I do not possess in abundance. People like you make the world a better place. People like me and my kind have our gifts, but it just isn't taking care of children.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,706 posts)
36. More power to you; somebody has to teach kindergarten.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:59 PM
Jun 2018

But I'd have to be taken away and given a heavy dose of Thorazine after a couple of hours. Those who enjoy working with children deserve great thanks and gratitude; I'm just not one of them.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
38. You seem like an honest person.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:25 PM
Jun 2018

Kids like honestly in adults. By these kids age, they have witnessed many a snow job.

They probably really like you, whether they ever say it out loud or not.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
40. They are very sweet and always give me a big hug and kiss when I come to
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:59 PM
Jun 2018

visit. I just don't know how parents can NOT worry every minute of the day. But then again I am neurotic and it's probably best that I don't have kids because I would be a total helicopter parent.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,858 posts)
41. Don't feel guilty.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 07:18 PM
Jun 2018

You never wanted kids and are happy and have a good life without them. You are not a bad person.

But don't ever again let your sister rope you into taking care of them. Maybe you should let her know how genuinely happy and satisfied with your life as it is. Just don't alienate her over this.

Do keep in mind that as they become adults you will be able to transition into an adult relationship with them, and with any luck at all it will be good.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
42. Thanks! I kind of feel like I was tricked a bit.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 07:22 PM
Jun 2018

At first I was only supposed to watch the dog. Then it was just the twins because they had a tournament. Then a week ago they told me the older two were going to stay as well. Of course they all have friends who want to use the pool so it was a free-for-all. My sister and her husband have no boundaries, so their house is party central.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,858 posts)
43. I don't blame you for feeling used.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 09:59 PM
Jun 2018

And even if you loved kids but never had any of your own, this was still an imposition.

Perhaps the good thing about this was that you have an even better appreciation for your own life and choices.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
44. Yes! You know, every time I visit my siblings and spend time with them and their children, it
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:03 PM
Jun 2018

only reinforces my belief that I was never cut out to be a parent. I just don't have it in me at all. They are great kids, but child care is something that is completely out of my skill set. I don't have a talent for it and I don't like it at all.

I am certain that I made the right choice!

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