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Aristus

(66,393 posts)
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 11:08 AM Aug 2018

Thank you, Loungers, for helping me get through another week. I love you all.

I think I'm starting to get burned out again. Or more cynical. Or possibly losing my touch when it comes to healthcare for the homeless.

I think I'm a bad liberal.

I'll give you three examples:

Back when I first started in practice, if a patient came to me and wanted to try nicotine patches as a way of quitting smoking, I wrote prescriptions with wild abandon. If they wanted to quit, I was all for it. The thing is, they kept coming back for refills on their prescription. I refilled them, because I wanted them to quit smoking. It took me close to a year before I realized that many of them were just hitting me up for free nicotine. I instituted a 'no refill' policy when prescribing nicotine patches. I've had more success getting people to cut down gradually on their cigarette consumption, and then quitting. I feel like I was naive, and became determined not to be taken advantage of again.

When a patient would come to me with a behavioral or emotional health disorder, stating their pet was keeping them emotionally stable and could they please have a provider note requesting that they be able to take their pets in places where they weren't normally permitted? I wrote notes without a moment's hesitation, wanting the best for my patients. Then I read in several places about how this is a scam in which perfectly healthy people are circumventing regulations by duping an eager-to-please provider (like me) for a note. This is a circumstance made possible by the fact that, unlike with trained service dogs for disabled patients, there is no regulatory agency for 'emotional-support animals'. Now, I just refer any patients requesting such a note to our behavioral health provider.

Finally, and this is the one that has been causing me trouble all week, I have been in the habit of writing notes to the management of the nearby homeless shelter for my acutely-ill patients, requesting that they be permitted bed-rest during the day while they recover. When word got out that I was doing this, I was hit with a flood of patients request bed-rest notes. Most have chronic issues for which bed-rest would provide marginal benefit, and others are not ill at all. as a result, I've had to limit my bed-rest requests to no more than about two weeks per patient, with renewals made on a case-by-case basis. My rationale is pretty simple: if I have a patient with a severe respiratory illness, who can't be sleeping rough during recovery, and the day bed-rest slots are filled with patients who are not acutely ill, my sick patient could be harmed by exposure to the elements. We're not at that time of year just yet, but it's coming.

I'm fairly well-known in our homeless community as the guy to go to for good health care. I don't want to be the bad guy in situations like these. It's been bothering me a lot.

Thank you for listening.

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donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
1. To help them stop smoking, yell them to get "The Only Way to Stop Smoking" by Allen Carr
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 11:19 AM
Aug 2018

It has something like a 90+% success rate,whereas cutting back only gas a 6-8% success rate. I stopped smoking easily after 25 yrs of being a slave to it, with no weight gain bad moods or chewed fingernails.

And you're also a very good person who is getting lots of checkmarks in heaven for doing such good work. Bless you for helping the homeless; it's never easy.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
2. Don't let a few bad apples spoil everything.
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 11:35 AM
Aug 2018

You are not the bad guy. You just want to help the ones who truly need your help.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
4. Don't stop what you're doing Aristus
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 01:44 PM
Aug 2018

...hardly anyone wants to help the homeless these days. So you are much needed and appreciated.
Sure there are a few people who take advantage, but that happens in every profession.

You're catching on that some people tell their buddies what a good guy you are, and that's why this is happening. Homeless people aren't stupid, they're more clever than you think. Maybe have a talk with the manager of the homeless shelter and let him/her know what you're up against. They see this stuff all the time and they might have suggestions for you.

patricia92243

(12,597 posts)
5. Every endeavor has to be tweaked. occasionally. You've just adjusted to the changing
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 02:09 PM
Aug 2018

circumstances. There are many more homeless people now, thus the jostling for what is available.

I have read your posts since I first began DU, and you are definitely a good liberal that puts most of us to shame.

Go for a little vacation and come back and tell us all about it.



steve2470

(37,457 posts)
6. you're a good liberal :)
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:00 PM
Aug 2018

You're just following rational medical protocols for these situations. If you were a "bad liberal", you'd be probably working for more money in another setting and never see the homeless.

The homeless are just like the rest of us, of course. A percentage will seek to "take advantage" of the medical profession. My family practice doctor absolutely will not write prescriptions for opiates, and definitely not for first time patients. He refers out to a pain medicine specialist. As a result, on Google he has gotten several negative reviews.

Keep doing what you do, and take a vacation when you think you need one

Steve

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,641 posts)
8. You are not losing your touch, my dear Aristus...
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:26 PM
Aug 2018

You're just being pushed in every direction by these patients who are doing whatever they can to get a better place in the homeless community. You are not to blame for this!

It's truly unfortunate that we must ration the resources we do have so that the sickest folks get the care they absolutely need...but we have to do it.

You have a big heart, my dear Aristus....don't let the less scrupulous squeeze it shut.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
9. You aren't a bad guy at all. Instead you are thinking about ways...
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 05:40 PM
Aug 2018

to really help people. Don't beat yourself up. As liberals, we'd all like to help people. But there are limited resources and we have to do what we can with what we have. Education and getting people to vote to support each other are ways we can change this.

rurallib

(62,426 posts)
11. live and learn - no one ever starts out with all the knowledge they need
Fri Aug 3, 2018, 08:59 PM
Aug 2018

and you have adjusted after you learn. That is how it works.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
12. You're the guy to go to for good health care...
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 09:51 AM
Aug 2018

... not quick fixes and enabling. Something to be proud of, IMO.


-- Mal

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. You are doing important and often thankless work. It is common for people in your position to
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 04:30 PM
Aug 2018

get burned out from time to time and for some, even permanently. You sound like a saint, I don't know if I could do what you do and there will always be people who try to take advantage of the trusting good nature of another.

You are serving a difficult population because I would imagine that there is a lot of substance abuse going on. Sometimes your patience and compassion can be exhausted.

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