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just made a gallon of laundry detergent - ask me anything! (Original Post) Kali Dec 2018 OP
It took me five minutes to read the article TexasTowelie Dec 2018 #1
I forgot to ask a question: TexasTowelie Dec 2018 #2
actually it works great and it is cheap as hell Kali Dec 2018 #4
Okay, in that case I'm glad that you found something to alleviate the condition. TexasTowelie Dec 2018 #9
it wasn't the detergent, but I ended up liking the DIY stuff and use it most of the time Kali Dec 2018 #10
Have to giggle..... akraven Dec 2018 #32
Most modern laundry detergents contain enzymes which work great Major Nikon Dec 2018 #42
I make my own too. It's much cheaper, and for me there's an extra advantage that, rather Squinch Dec 2018 #30
Buying the items to make this pbmus Dec 2018 #3
the boxes of washing soda and borax will make multiple batches Kali Dec 2018 #5
But it makes about a hundred batches. Squinch Dec 2018 #27
The cost per wash is MUCH cheaper than commercial clothes detergent csziggy Dec 2018 #43
Ask you anything? True Dough Dec 2018 #6
laundry beats doing dishes any day! Kali Dec 2018 #7
Oops! We have a disagreement there! True Dough Dec 2018 #19
they are softer but that stiff air dried feeling says CLEAN to me Kali Dec 2018 #20
Because they no longer stink! True Dough Dec 2018 #22
LOL Kali Dec 2018 #25
Try that in December in Fairbanks Alaska. akraven Dec 2018 #33
it can be done Kali Dec 2018 #35
Yep, and I have done so as I've lived here for over 40 years. akraven Dec 2018 #37
beautiful! that was my absolute favorite and unforgetable thing about that winter Kali Dec 2018 #39
The aurora SING! akraven Dec 2018 #40
We did this some time ago ornotna Dec 2018 #8
there are a lot of recipes out there Kali Dec 2018 #11
That's most resourceful of you! Laffy Kat Dec 2018 #12
I hear that! Kali Dec 2018 #13
These ingredients would be hard to find nowadays FakeNoose Dec 2018 #14
I bought mine at Walmart. But they are at Winco also. And online, if you want. violetpastille Dec 2018 #16
Ace Hardware, wallyworld and/or the internet! Kali Dec 2018 #21
I'm fixing to make my own laundry detergent as soon as I'm done with my box of violetpastille Dec 2018 #15
Yes artificial scents are a good reason to make your own FakeNoose Dec 2018 #17
I also wonder about the whiteners and brighteners that are added... Kali Dec 2018 #24
Why Bother? ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #18
mostly I enjoy it, and it seems to work pretty good here Kali Dec 2018 #23
Pretty Hard To See Submicron Particles ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #46
interesting field Kali Dec 2018 #47
I might try Orvus Paste for washing clothes csziggy Dec 2018 #44
Should Work ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #45
Even easier: I use Cascade dishwashing soap instead of the Fels Naptha. Squinch Dec 2018 #26
is that the liquid for machines? or powder? Kali Dec 2018 #28
The powder for the dishwasher. I haven't had any trouble with bleaching on fabrics. Squinch Dec 2018 #29
I have a couple old boxes my sister dumped on me, I will give it a try! Kali Dec 2018 #31
This is the recipe for 2 containers that are 1.5 liters each. That just happens to be the Squinch Dec 2018 #34
my recipe doesn't suds either - that is why it is good for HE machines Kali Dec 2018 #36
I thought, too, when I used the liquid in the dishwasher, it didn't work as well. Though Squinch Dec 2018 #38
Ingedients in Cascade: sl8 Dec 2018 #41

TexasTowelie

(112,249 posts)
1. It took me five minutes to read the article
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 06:55 PM
Dec 2018

and I have none of the ingredients at home. It also looks like it takes more than five minutes to go through all of the steps and that doesn't include the overnight stay mentioned in the procedure.

Then there is the issue of the final product having an appearance similar to bodily secretions.

I'll stick with buying laundry detergent at the store.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
4. actually it works great and it is cheap as hell
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 07:04 PM
Dec 2018

a few years ago I had an issue with chronic hives (turned out to be thyroid related) and was trying to figure out a laundry detergent with out many ingredients - this came up. it does have a scent from the Fels but it doesn't linger on your clothes.

I give it as gifts too, and call it goo instead of sauce because with my water it gets "stiffer" than mayo for sure.

TexasTowelie

(112,249 posts)
9. Okay, in that case I'm glad that you found something to alleviate the condition.
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 07:29 PM
Dec 2018

BTW, as a bachelor, I consider heating water in any manner (boiling or in a coffee pot) to fall under "cooking".

Kali

(55,014 posts)
10. it wasn't the detergent, but I ended up liking the DIY stuff and use it most of the time
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 07:34 PM
Dec 2018

sometimes I don't get around to making it and end up with store-bought but this stuff is what we mostly use. LOL on bachelor cooking.

akraven

(1,975 posts)
32. Have to giggle.....
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:30 PM
Dec 2018

Spouse swears my mom, who died in 1989, taught him how to boil water. You put it on the burner, turn it to high, and wait till the pot is dry...….………..

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
42. Most modern laundry detergents contain enzymes which work great
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 11:38 PM
Dec 2018

It's one of the biggest reasons why modern detergents work far better than anything that was available decades ago. However, those enzymes can also produce allergic reactions so some people can't tolerate them.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
30. I make my own too. It's much cheaper, and for me there's an extra advantage that, rather
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:20 PM
Dec 2018

than getting a new plastic bottle every time I need detergent, I've used the same 2 plastic bottles for about 5 years. Just make new batches in them when I'm out.

I'm trying to give up plastic as much as I can. It's ridiculously hard.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
5. the boxes of washing soda and borax will make multiple batches
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 07:05 PM
Dec 2018

it is way cheaper than store detergent

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
43. The cost per wash is MUCH cheaper than commercial clothes detergent
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:27 AM
Dec 2018

Here is the breakdown from the link page in the OP:

Budget101 Budget Breakdown:

Fels Naptha .99 bar
Borax 76 oz box = 9.5 cups $3.29 box = .34 c per cup
Washing Soda 55 oz box =6.875 cups - $2.97 box = .43 per cup
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total Expense for 128 loads of Laundry = $1.76


I'm not sure how many loads I get out of the detergent I buy (actually my husband does the laundry) but I doubt it is 128 loads per bottle and I know those bottles cost a lot more than $1.76!

True Dough

(17,305 posts)
19. Oops! We have a disagreement there!
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 09:09 PM
Dec 2018

I'm definitely pro-dryer. I find the fabric much softer than when clothes are hung on the line. So I guess I'll just have to do my own laundry after all.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
20. they are softer but that stiff air dried feeling says CLEAN to me
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 09:45 PM
Dec 2018

how can you tell your towels are clean if they all feel soft and used?

akraven

(1,975 posts)
33. Try that in December in Fairbanks Alaska.
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:31 PM
Dec 2018

Freezes before it dries. Then it's months of recovery.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
35. it can be done
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:44 PM
Dec 2018

and freezing dries stuff pretty well (as to frost bitten fingers, that is a whole other issue LOL)
coldest I ever felt was Fairbanks in December, I think it was 20 below or something. back in the 70s, took the train up from Anchorage, where we were spending the winter.

akraven

(1,975 posts)
37. Yep, and I have done so as I've lived here for over 40 years.
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:50 PM
Dec 2018

It's just not fun. The stuff has to hang indoors to thaw.

20 below is mild for December. Anchorage never gets truly cold (-55 is the neat stuff).

Give me a damn dryer! I wash clothes by hand and a gadget - but leave my dryer alone!

OH! Kali, and the aurora are very out tonight!

Kali

(55,014 posts)
39. beautiful! that was my absolute favorite and unforgetable thing about that winter
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:55 PM
Dec 2018

I could HEAR them. was that real? so cool.

yeah, Anchorage is warmer than where I was born - Flagstaff, AZ
I don't remember the temp, so much as my toes were so cold and my little bit of exposed face hurt in the 5 minutes we got out of the vehicle to walk around and look at some old mine. ugh and BRRRRRRR it barely ever freezes here and I still hate winter.

akraven

(1,975 posts)
40. The aurora SING!
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 11:02 PM
Dec 2018

People don't believe that? Get your ears checked! It's truth especially in the Interior and up North. We layer on, and sit on the hood of the warmed-up Jeep, in snowmachine suits if necessary. I winter!

It's also fun in summer when the sun never really sets - party time!

ornotna

(10,803 posts)
8. We did this some time ago
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 07:29 PM
Dec 2018

Made a five gallon bucket of it with a slightly different process. Lasted quite awhile and it works.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
11. there are a lot of recipes out there
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 07:36 PM
Dec 2018

I liked this because it was smaller amounts and didn't need storing. also can give it away as gifts pretty easily.

Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
12. That's most resourceful of you!
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 07:47 PM
Dec 2018

Plus, looks like the individual jars would make a great gift. I'm not that handy myself. There are days I can't even find enough motivation to drag my ass to the store to buy milk, LOL.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
13. I hear that!
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 07:50 PM
Dec 2018

great thing about this one is the dissolved soap from the first step can sit around for weeks until you get around to the second step. (trust me on that! LOL)

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
14. These ingredients would be hard to find nowadays
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 08:01 PM
Dec 2018

I grew up in the 60's and I remember seeing Fels Naptha, 20 Mule Team Borax, and Arm & Hammer washing soda in regular grocery stores or maybe specialty stores like Agway. Home Depot and Walmart didn't exist then, but we still had old-fashioned general stores where you could find oddball items.

I don't know about rural areas, but I'm pretty sure these items can't be found in city or suburban supermarkets nowadays. Anybody else?


Kali

(55,014 posts)
21. Ace Hardware, wallyworld and/or the internet!
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 09:47 PM
Dec 2018

I get the Fels at Ace, Safeway carries Borax, and rumor has it walmart has the washing soda - I ordered it from Amazon.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
15. I'm fixing to make my own laundry detergent as soon as I'm done with my box of
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 08:04 PM
Dec 2018

Arm & Hammer.

Reasons:

No artificial scents. I won't lie. I worry about that stuff now. This time last year I didn't give it a thought.

It's less expensive

It's better for the environment.

That's all I got but it's enough for me.



FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
17. Yes artificial scents are a good reason to make your own
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 08:15 PM
Dec 2018

I don't have allergies but I sometimes get a skin reaction when I use a different brand of detergent for the first time. I've always assumed it was due to the artificial scent, but I don't really know. Or it could be in the dyes. I had eczema as a child but I outgrew it in my teens.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
24. I also wonder about the whiteners and brighteners that are added...
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 09:53 PM
Dec 2018

chlorine bleach and/or oxiclean if you need a boost

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
18. Why Bother?
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 08:23 PM
Dec 2018

Besides, that formula is going to work poorly in hard water.
Will leave insoluble divalent soap salts that won't rinse out.
And micellization from soap is poorly performing on protenaceous soils.
There is a major technical difference between a soap and a detergent
Lastly, the economy brands at the dollar store are pretty effective, damned cheap and don't have the above limitations

Kali

(55,014 posts)
23. mostly I enjoy it, and it seems to work pretty good here
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 09:52 PM
Dec 2018

my water isn't the hardest in the world, but it ain't soft that is for sure. No residue is another plus (I'm not seeing anything insoluble???)

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
46. Pretty Hard To See Submicron Particles
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 11:33 AM
Dec 2018

Your post said ask you anything?
Enjoying it is a variable for which there can be no argument
If you like it, cool for you!
Just opining as an expert in surface chemistry

Kali

(55,014 posts)
47. interesting field
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 12:45 PM
Dec 2018

around here - what with the dusty environment, livestock, and pets - submicron particles are low on the concern list (at least in terms of visibility on laundry)

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
44. I might try Orvus Paste for washing clothes
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 02:41 AM
Dec 2018

It's already made into a semi solid (when cool to cold it's almost solid, when left out in 90 F heat it liquifies) and it has surficants to keep stuff from settling back on the clothes.

While I originally used it to wash my horses - 1 tablespoon in a five gallon bucket worked great to wash several horses - it is also used by textile conservators and quilters to wash their items. Quilt shops sell it for much more (8 ounces for about $15) but I can get a 7.5 pound jar from the feed store for about $30.

Here is a pretty good article on using it for quilts: Using Orvus Quilt Soap to Wash Your Quilts

And here is a blurb from a conservator source on Orvus Paste:

Orvus WA Paste is a near-neutral pH, anionic synthetic surfactant and wetting agent with excellent detergency, emulsifying, and dispersing properties. The primary component of Orvus WA Paste is sodium lauryl sulfate. It is a gentle detergent that is recommended for cleaning most fine textiles. Orvus is a neutral pH synthetic detergent with excellent detergency, emulsifying and dispersing properties. Orvus contains no phosphorus and is biodegradable. Orvus is soluble in hot or cold water and provides excellent sudsing across a wide range of water hardness conditions. Orvus lowers surface tension, providing fast wetting and penetration, and is effective in many cleaning tasks, such as cleaning rugs, upholstery and hand washing of delicate fabrics. At room temperature, Orvus is an amber colored liquid of honey-like consistency, but solidifies into a white colored soft paste form at about 55°F.

For reference, use 1 to 3 ounces by weight of Orvus Paste per gallon of water for hand washing of fine fabric and up to 4 ounces per gallon for rugs and upholstery. Rinse very well in order to remove all traces of Orvus from the fabric. When using this product as with all chemicals and cleaners, always wear gloves, safety glasses and protective clothing.
http://www.conservationsupportsystems.com/product/show/orvus-wa-paste/detergents-soaps

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
45. Should Work
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 11:30 AM
Dec 2018

The principal active agent is .sodium lauryl sulfate
That is a true detergent.
It's hard water tolerant tolerance is mediocre but it's a very strong surface active agent
BTW: it's a paste because it as added lauryl alcohol and copious salts
Those shift the phase chemistry toward the gel phase

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
26. Even easier: I use Cascade dishwashing soap instead of the Fels Naptha.
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:13 PM
Dec 2018

So my recipe for a liter is: 1/2 cup washing soda, 1/2 cup borax, 1/2 cup Cascade.

Been using it for years. Works great. Poster above me says it will leave deposit, but it doesn't.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
28. is that the liquid for machines? or powder?
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:16 PM
Dec 2018

or something for hand washing? machine dish detergent sometimes has bleach in it but it sure will clean grease and oils!

Kali

(55,014 posts)
31. I have a couple old boxes my sister dumped on me, I will give it a try!
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:26 PM
Dec 2018

so add water to make a liter/quart? that is it or do you need to heat and disolve? seems like you could also just use the dry version, whatever that measures out to per load...

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
34. This is the recipe for 2 containers that are 1.5 liters each. That just happens to be the
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:35 PM
Dec 2018

size of the last detergent bottles I bought years ago when I started doing this.

So for the 1.5 liter bottle, I use 1/4 cup (so 1/2 for the two bottles) of each ingredient: Cascade, washing powder, borax.

I funnel it all into the container, fill the container up half way with very hot tap water, cover it and shake to mix. Then fill it the rest of the way with room temperature or cool water.

I reshake before each use.

It doesn't suds much in the washing machine, but I think suds are just added to store bought stuff because sudsy detergent sells better.

EDIT TO ADD: I do use the powder version of Cascade. I don't know how the liquid Cascade would work. It's a very different formula, if I recall correctly.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
36. my recipe doesn't suds either - that is why it is good for HE machines
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:49 PM
Dec 2018

yeah I have boxes of powder from her. she is on septic and somebody told her not to use powder. I use the goo as well because my dish washer is still under warranty, after that I will probably go back to powder, I don't see the difference in cleaning and it is cheaper. I don't like paying for plastic containers of water.

Squinch

(50,955 posts)
38. I thought, too, when I used the liquid in the dishwasher, it didn't work as well. Though
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:52 PM
Dec 2018

that was when I had a really crappy dishwasher. It might have just been that.

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