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panader0

(25,816 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:34 PM Mar 2019

My brother's life in boxes.

We never really got along. I was outgoing and he was shy. He is two years
older than I am, born in'48. He has a masters degree in history and another
in business. He lived alone in Tucson and we never spoke unless I called him.
He slowly slipped away and made death threats to his apartment managers.
The coppers came, the VA (he served as a German linguist in Berlin) stepped
in and diagnosed him with early onset dementia. They took him away.
I rented a truck, drove to Tucson, and cleaned out his apartment, putting all
of his possessions in boxes. He is medicated, still somewhat lucid, and
somewhat angry. Locked up.

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My brother's life in boxes. (Original Post) panader0 Mar 2019 OP
I'm sorry, panader0. MontanaMama Mar 2019 #1
That's a lot for both of you to cope with. Sanity Claws Mar 2019 #2
Never will be able to live on his own. He's locked up. panader0 Mar 2019 #9
I'm sorry FirstLight Mar 2019 #3
It's all stored here at my place. panader0 Mar 2019 #11
I'm so sorry that you have to go thru this experience vlyons Mar 2019 #4
I have asked him what he wants. panader0 Mar 2019 #12
maybe you can pick out a few pictures vlyons Mar 2019 #13
Went through Alzheimer's with my grandfather... Thomas Hurt Mar 2019 #5
that is rough Kali Mar 2019 #6
I'm extremely sorry. I think I would rather die than lose my mind. sinkingfeeling Mar 2019 #7
I am sorry for you and your brother's problems. Ilsa Mar 2019 #8
I am so sorry. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #10
im sorry. I went thru my moms boxes after she passed. I found an uncashed insurance policy... samnsara Mar 2019 #14

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
1. I'm sorry, panader0.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:40 PM
Mar 2019

Dementia is a cruel and painful disease...for those afflicted and those who love them. Early onset is especially virulent. I lost my dad and grandad to early onset dementia...it’s awful.

Sanity Claws

(21,849 posts)
2. That's a lot for both of you to cope with.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:40 PM
Mar 2019

What is the next step for each of you? For him, will his medication allow him to live on his own, at least for a while? For you, what do you do with the boxes and how will this change affect your relationship with him?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
9. Never will be able to live on his own. He's locked up.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 03:33 PM
Mar 2019

It's a seemingly nice facility. I told him he doesn't have to cook or do dishes,
or split wood for heat.

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
3. I'm sorry
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:40 PM
Mar 2019

That's rough. My sister and I are not very close, and we are entering into the phase of life where we will have to start making arrangements for our parents as things happen... not looking forward to those interactions...

What will you do with his stuff? store it? Have you been able to talk to him about anything relevant?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
11. It's all stored here at my place.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 03:37 PM
Mar 2019

I couldn't afford a storeroom and I have the room. He never owned much,
except books--boxes and boxes of books. Mostly European History and many
are quite old. I may donate them to the library.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
4. I'm so sorry that you have to go thru this experience
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:42 PM
Mar 2019

But what a good brother you are to step in and take charge. I hope that you are able to visit him, if that is what you choose to do. Maybe you could ask him if there are a few things that he would like to keep with him, assuming that he is able to tell you. Otherwise, please consider donating what you can to a men's shelter.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
12. I have asked him what he wants.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 03:47 PM
Mar 2019

Nothing. I don't think he can read his prized books anymore.
I have already given much of his clothes away--to my old man buddies.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
5. Went through Alzheimer's with my grandfather...
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:44 PM
Mar 2019

Very similar. He grew up during the depression and his stuff was important to him. He would get angry when we discussed sell or moving his stuff. He didn't remember us but recognized we talking about this property.

My grandmother tried to take of him with my mother's help but eventually we had to put him in a nursing home in the locked ward, so he would not wander off looking for one of his things. Something he had done repeatedly.

It is tough, each time, had to go through cancer with my mom and grandmother, stroke with my paternal grandfather and dealing with Parkinson's with my step dad now.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
8. I am sorry for you and your brother's problems.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 03:21 PM
Mar 2019

Dementia is so nasty. I'm sorry you weren't close, but that is never a guarantee within a family, especially when one personality is a loner. c

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
10. I am so sorry.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 03:36 PM
Mar 2019

There are a lot of people out there who never had children, or perhaps are estranged from them, and who are getting older with no one at all to look after them or their interests down the line.

I think a lot about that. I was likewise born in '48. I have one son who will probably never marry and have children, which is fine. I know he will do a reasonable job of making sure I'm taken care of if I can no longer do it for myself, but I worry a great deal about what will happen to him eventually.

Two of my three brothers never married and they are both experiencing health issues. One lives quite close to my sister, the other happens to be in Tucson. I'm the nearest family member, and I'm some 500 miles away in Santa Fe.

It's tough. There's a lot to be said for the extended families of the past, even though they were far from perfect.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
14. im sorry. I went thru my moms boxes after she passed. I found an uncashed insurance policy...
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 03:55 PM
Mar 2019

...and some of my grandparents love letters...lots of stuff with moms handwriting and notes she wrote to her children saying how much she loved us. You will get to know your brother a lot better probably..after going through his boxes of stuff.

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