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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsI've had three patients so far this week who came in to the clinic complaining of pneumonia.
Really? In this weather? Days: hot and dry; nights: warm and dry.
I look them over. Sure enough: common garden-variety cold symptoms. Not even a hint of pneumonia. I treated them symptomatically.
Do they say they have pneumonia because they think that sounds more dramatic? What gives?
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)That might be the answer.
Aristus
(66,370 posts)The common cold is common because it's common. That may be overstating the case a bit. But you get the idea. It's much more common than pneumonia.
still_one
(92,190 posts)Aristus
(66,370 posts)When all else fails, look at the patient. No fever, no chills, no night sweats, no respiratory distress, oxygen saturation within normal limits, lungs clear as a bell on auscultation, no dullness to chest percussion. Common cold.
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Ask your Dr for Astravenica.
Got any left?
hlthe2b
(102,278 posts)Certainly, Strep and Influenza cases remain higher in winter/fall, but Legionella, Mycoplasma and several other organisms are quite prevalent causes of CAP in spring/summer.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/resp.12978
Catia Cilloniz, Santiago Ewig, Albert Gabarrus, Miquel Ferrer,Jorge Puig de la Bella Casa, Josep Mensa, Antoni Torres
I gather you are saying they are all negative for consistent symptoms on PE and/or radiographs? Perhaps they are accustomed to their "elders" referring to "walking pneumonia" -- a lay term I vividly recall for "mild pneumonia" or general spring/summer respiratory disease growing up.
Aristus
(66,370 posts)One must always keep Occam's Razor in mind: the most common solution is usually the correct one.
Walking pneumonia is known clinically as 'atypical pneumonia', and comes with all of the usual hallmarks of community-acquired pneumonia; cough, respiratory distress of varying severity, dullness to percussion, and lung consolidation. the patient is simply able to walk around with the symptoms, instead of being bed-ridden. I get a case of it every now and then in clinic.
Legionella is an important one to look out for, since it most commonly incubates in air conditioning or water-recirculating systems. And there are more and more of those here in the Pacific Northwest as the climate warms up. All the same, I've never knowingly encountered a case of it in clinic.
hlthe2b
(102,278 posts)but as I mentioned it is usually due to Mycoplasma--common in spring/summer and often self-limited sans treatment so that the prevalence and incidence is likely to be underestimated.
The key point is that CAP is NOT only a winter-fall disease--epidemiologically and statistically speaking, some of those complaining may well have mild pneumonia.
Aristus
(66,370 posts)Common cold, the lot of them.
hlthe2b
(102,278 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Should be "stumbling for the half hour you can keep yourself upright pneumonia." Had it during my semester abroad in Dublin. It lasted for about a month, maybe up to 6 weeks. I was barely functioning. Luckily, the Irish have good, strong OTC medicine...with codeine. Man is it horrible to have fever sweats and chills in the damp Irish climate during winter!
unblock
(52,232 posts)I caught the rolling arthritis sitting down by the rhythm revue.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Hardly winter.
Aristus
(66,370 posts)Simply that in warmer weather, it's not necessarily the first diagnosis an infected patient should jump to.
llmart
(15,540 posts)I'm not one to run to the doctor for every twinge or cough. Two years ago I had a cough that wouldn't go away and after two weeks of feeling run down, no energy, and eventually coughing so hard I couldn't get dressed to go to work, I went to urgent care where they did X-rays and said I had pneumonia. They and my primary care doctor told me that if this ever happened again, I should make sure I got checked out/X-rayed for pneumonia. The next year I had another really bad cough, and general lack of energy/appetite for almost two weeks, so I went back to the same urgent care, they X-rayed me and said, no it wasn't pneumonia. This year in May, it happened again. I gave it a bit more than two weeks and it eventually went away, but boy, did that seem like a long time to be hacking. I'm 70 years old by the way and really healthy. However, I have a grandbaby that's in daycare and ever since she was born I've had these colds that appear after a day of babysitting. Guess my immune system isn't what it used to be.
Bayard
(22,073 posts)I went to my pulmonologist, and told him I thought I had another pesky respiratory infection. He checked me out, and said, no--you have pneumonia.
Go figure.
edbermac
(15,939 posts)Started coughing up blood and had a stay in the hospital for a week.
KT2000
(20,577 posts)coughs from people when I go shopping, sometimes I think they must have pneumonia. It has been enough to keep out of stores!
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)They are not well educated?
I surely hope you do not use any kind of snide or condescending tone towards them simply because they came to the clinic for help. That kind of attitude can discourage people from seeking help in the future.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,491 posts)that discussed some dangers of pneumonia, creating unwarranted fears even when having a cold.
In this day and age, it also wouldn't surprise me that some bullshit got spread on social media say, about some super bug version of pneumonia that scared a bunch of people.
I really does sound like false fears because normally, common people associate sign of pneumonia with something you physically feel such as weakness with congestion or difficulty breathing.
KY........