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Tornado alley people: where is the best place to be during a tornado? (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2019 OP
Probably this is one good place although you don't want to be trapped in the basement... SWBTATTReg Jun 2019 #1
Thanks. applegrove Jun 2019 #13
Recommendations from NOAA: SeattleVet Jun 2019 #2
Thanks. applegrove Jun 2019 #14
Usually anywhere other than tornado alley. unblock Jun 2019 #3
Tornado alley has moved north to ottawa. We are getting storms and applegrove Jun 2019 #8
apparently, under a freeway overpass yellowdogintexas Jun 2019 #4
They say that is dangerous in the instructions i just read. applegrove Jun 2019 #15
NO!!! orangecrush Jun 2019 #34
no not under any bridge.... samnsara Jun 2019 #70
If you're in a building without a basement VMA131Marine Jun 2019 #5
I have one of those if i close some doors. applegrove Jun 2019 #19
My Mom was convinced it was under the laundry sink, in the basement. Siwsan Jun 2019 #6
great description, very visual - GNASHING, SLATHERING JAWS OF DEATH nt msongs Jun 2019 #11
Tough choice to make. But i would take on the spiders. applegrove Jun 2019 #16
The trauma is still with me Siwsan Jun 2019 #20
My family visited cousins with beachfront property when i was 4. My applegrove Jun 2019 #21
In your storm cellar... PoliticAverse Jun 2019 #7
I own no lawn of my own. applegrove Jun 2019 #17
Oz jberryhill Jun 2019 #9
Not always... petronius Jun 2019 #12
lol jberryhill Jun 2019 #25
Yes, that government customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #60
Just like ours today! nt Laffy Kat Jun 2019 #68
That was karma. CentralMass Jun 2019 #26
She wasn't in a basement. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2019 #59
She is now jberryhill Jun 2019 #69
Barbados MuseRider Jun 2019 #10
LOL pangaia Jun 2019 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #18
Hawaii trof Jun 2019 #22
Check out the basement watoos Jun 2019 #23
Depends on what the strength of the tornado is really Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2019 #24
I remember that. Terrible. applegrove Jun 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #72
Bottom floor with as many walls between you and the outside as possible. Runningdawg Jun 2019 #27
Vibes to you in Tornado Alley. applegrove Jun 2019 #32
I will take all the help we can get. Thanks Runningdawg Jun 2019 #73
Not in Tornado Alley. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #28
Tornado Alley has come to me in Ottawa. applegrove Jun 2019 #30
You have a better chance at a lower EF scale. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2019 #46
That is good to know. Are you getting more or less EF and occurences with applegrove Jun 2019 #47
More and higher. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2019 #50
Oh dam. I'm so sorry. applegrove Jun 2019 #54
Till we as a planet get our act together and handle climate change... Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2019 #58
Climate change is #1 issue for canadians this summer. The election is in October. applegrove Jun 2019 #63
basement corner nearest the tornado Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2019 #31
I am in a cinder block building. So i think i am safe from that. But i will keep staying close to applegrove Jun 2019 #33
Hang in there. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2019 #36
The storm warning is over. I just wanted to know what to do if it ever happens. applegrove Jun 2019 #38
Please forgive for not looking. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2019 #40
Oh sorry. Did not think. Deleting it. applegrove Jun 2019 #41
Leave it for everyone else. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2019 #44
Nope. I called people from tornado alley to this thread and did not think. applegrove Jun 2019 #49
if not a basement stay away from that sw wall Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2019 #66
Thanks. I think we only get EF 1s or 2s. But good advice. My apartment is in the basement of a applegrove Jun 2019 #67
For most of tornado alley, people tend to not have basements Major Nikon Jun 2019 #35
There in Joplin some of the older houses were built over... Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2019 #37
Sounds horrible. applegrove Jun 2019 #39
It kept me alive while the house bought it. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2019 #42
My god. The world is lucky to have you. applegrove Jun 2019 #43
Don't know how lucky the world is.... Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2019 #45
We are lucky here. Your family is lucky. Your friends are lucky. Good applegrove Jun 2019 #48
Away from Tornado Alley. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2019 #51
In another state. I actually slept through a tornado in 2003, because I'm severely hearing impaired tblue37 Jun 2019 #52
Do most people hear them coming? I was at the door at 6PM and there was garbage flying around. applegrove Jun 2019 #57
They say it sounds like a loud freight train. nt tblue37 Jun 2019 #71
In Carp OneBlueDotBama Jun 2019 #53
Yes. I'll keep that in mind. LOL! 100,000 sq feet and 75 feet down i think many would applegrove Jun 2019 #55
Tornadoes while rare... OneBlueDotBama Jun 2019 #61
We get thunderstorms as a norm in the spring and early summer in ottawa. applegrove Jun 2019 #64
'Else' - someplace else. keithbvadu2 Jun 2019 #62
Vibes to you all in Tornado Alley and thanks for your help. applegrove Jun 2019 #65
Hawaii. Nt hack89 Jun 2019 #74

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
1. Probably this is one good place although you don't want to be trapped in the basement...
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 07:25 PM
Jun 2019

Best place of course is not to be in one. At least in the bathtub in the basement, cover yourself w/ a mattress.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
8. Tornado alley has moved north to ottawa. We are getting storms and
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 07:36 PM
Jun 2019

lightning and tornado warnings and tornados and we only used to get 3 weeks of thunder storms at the end of August. I took a picture of a tornado weeks ago. So far no tornado alert on my phone. Just general thunder and lightning weather warning with the 'if you see a funnel cloud' warning added. But i was going to take a bath and realized i know nothing about where is the safest place or the least safe.

yellowdogintexas

(22,270 posts)
4. apparently, under a freeway overpass
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 07:29 PM
Jun 2019

if the number of cars which park under them when the weather is threatening is any indication.

The nearest one to our house has enough space in the overhangs to park about 35 cars. The next one west of us has even more.

orangecrush

(19,620 posts)
34. NO!!!
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 09:09 PM
Jun 2019

VERY DANGEROUS!!!



The reality is: an overpass may be one of the worst places to seek shelter from a tornado. An overpass as tornado shelter can put people at a greater risk of being killed or seriously injured by flying debris from the powerful tornado winds. ... Flying debris become dangerous missiles in the tornado airflow.
The Ohio Committee for Severe Weather Awareness - Ohio.gov › tornadosafety.aspx
Tornado Safety & the Dangers of Highway Overpasses - Ohio.gov | OCSWA



https://www.weathersafety.ohio.gov/tornadosafety.aspx




samnsara

(17,636 posts)
70. no not under any bridge....
Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:34 AM
Jun 2019

...i chased storms for years and the first thing we learned is not to take cover under a bridge or overpass. A ditch is best. And inside we were taught in a inside bathtub with a mattress over you. Not so easy if you have a memory foam or sleep number.

Siwsan

(26,292 posts)
6. My Mom was convinced it was under the laundry sink, in the basement.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 07:33 PM
Jun 2019

Where there lived lots and lots of SPIDERS and they all had GNASHING, SLATHERING JAWS OF DEATH. At least that's how I remember them.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
21. My family visited cousins with beachfront property when i was 4. My
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 07:59 PM
Jun 2019

dad told us there were jellyfish but he would walk us through them. I was like "are you for real!!! There is no way i'm getting in the ocean with huge stinging things". Saw a jellyfish when i was in my late thirties. It was tiny but out of the ocean i went.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
25. lol
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 08:06 PM
Jun 2019

Although technically that was well east of Oz in Munchkinland - a cruel government experiment in providing segregated housing for persons with growth hormone deficiency.

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
24. Depends on what the strength of the tornado is really
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 08:06 PM
Jun 2019

In Joplin we had a few die because the house, what was left, collapse into the basement. Others died because of direct hit to the house.

Depending on how your house was built and if it is going to be a direct hit, all you can do is seek shelter of some kind and hang on.

Response to Lady Freedom Returns (Reply #24)

Runningdawg

(4,522 posts)
27. Bottom floor with as many walls between you and the outside as possible.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 08:38 PM
Jun 2019

You need an evac kit if you get buried: laser pointer and personal alarm or whistle to signal search and rescue and preferably some type of helmet and goggles to put on before it hits, a flashlight and weather radio are a good idea too.
We keep helmets in the hall closet with the rest of those things inside and flashing beacons and extra leashes for our dogs and cats too. Everyone knows the drill.
Speaking as a retired nurse #1 Tornado injury - serious cuts to the feet. If the weather looks bad, put on your shoes. preferably lace up boots. Others can get sucked right off.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
63. Climate change is #1 issue for canadians this summer. The election is in October.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 10:41 PM
Jun 2019

Let's hope climate change becomes #1 in the US by 2020.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,438 posts)
31. basement corner nearest the tornado
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 09:05 PM
Jun 2019

Think about how things fall when the roof comes off. If the tornado approaches from the SW, scrunch up in the SW corner of the basement. If there's a collapse of the structure, the strongest parts of the beams and joists will likely form a protective tent around that corner while the junk piles up in the center.

I have no basement, but there is a closet that has a heavy beam above and below it, with internal walls and headers all around it. Feels a bit crowded, but the clothing makes for padding (from flying debris) and all that heavy wooden structure could hold the rest of the house piled on it.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
33. I am in a cinder block building. So i think i am safe from that. But i will keep staying close to
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 09:07 PM
Jun 2019

that sw wall in mind as the floors could still go.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
38. The storm warning is over. I just wanted to know what to do if it ever happens.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jun 2019

It just occured to me i had no plan.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,438 posts)
66. if not a basement stay away from that sw wall
Sun Jun 30, 2019, 12:43 AM
Jun 2019

A cinder block building is not necessarily any more protective than a wood frame building. Tornado force winds can drive debris completely through unreinforced concrete.

If you don't have a basement, stay away from exterior walls. Find a place inside the home that can protect you from flying debris and protect you from collapsed structure.

The following illustrates what can happen in a hurricane; a tornado packs more force.



Things get weird with the extreme winds and barometric changes around a tornado.

Try driving a flimsy curtain rod into a tree:


The above image is from https://www.weather.gov/lmk/april31974_in_the_path
which is about:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974_Super_Outbreak

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
67. Thanks. I think we only get EF 1s or 2s. But good advice. My apartment is in the basement of a
Sun Jun 30, 2019, 12:51 AM
Jun 2019

building. 4 feet of windows above ground. No window in the sw. I'll duck under the mattress if i get a warning on my phone. But i feel good to now know we will likely only get the least EF tornados and i know what to do. Stay safe everyone.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
35. For most of tornado alley, people tend to not have basements
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 09:14 PM
Jun 2019

Basements are common in colder areas where you need a foundation that's a few feet thick. In places where the frost line is measured in inches basements are more rare. When I lived in Oklahoma I ran across only a couple of people who had a basement.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
37. There in Joplin some of the older houses were built over...
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 09:39 PM
Jun 2019

... root cellers. As time went by people converted them into basements.
You had a good foot of ground over your head. That's what was my savings grace.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
51. Away from Tornado Alley.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 10:24 PM
Jun 2019

We’re about to see a trend. Climate change will make some parts of the country uninhabitable.

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
52. In another state. I actually slept through a tornado in 2003, because I'm severely hearing impaired
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 10:24 PM
Jun 2019

and didn't hear the siren.

Kansas is in Tornado Alley, but our town usually doesn't get hit, and when we do, it is usually in a part of town not densely populated --fortunately for me, since I live near the town center.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
57. Do most people hear them coming? I was at the door at 6PM and there was garbage flying around.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 10:34 PM
Jun 2019

But no tornado. Just storms. Would someone normally hear a tornado getting close if you were not able to see the wind because you are not near a window? I have no clue.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
55. Yes. I'll keep that in mind. LOL! 100,000 sq feet and 75 feet down i think many would
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 10:30 PM
Jun 2019

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be safe. 360+ rooms. I had no idea it was so big.

OneBlueDotBama

(1,385 posts)
61. Tornadoes while rare...
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 10:38 PM
Jun 2019

Happen everywhere, Barrie, Ont had a bad one a few years ago as did Edmonton. I watched a F1 streak down the main street in a small town south of Tremblant Qc in the mid 1990's. Didn't hurt anyone, but did some major structural damage to structures. Watched another one in Tuscaloosa, Alabama that killed many and completely wiped neighborhoods off the map.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
64. We get thunderstorms as a norm in the spring and early summer in ottawa.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 10:50 PM
Jun 2019

It did not used to be that way at all. Every so often they say a storm system is coming and watch out. Exactly as they predicted there was a dark cloud low over my house at 6PM. There was stuff flying around in the wind which is unusual so i looked it up and sure enough it was a severe storm warning. I'm not scared. I just like a plan when things are pointing in a sketchy direction. It passed by 8 PM. I'm getting good ideas and now have a plan.

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