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no_hypocrisy

(46,114 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:09 PM Oct 2019

The prospective tenants for my house (2 story) want me to install window guards

for their four year old child and infant.

I grew up in that house and nobody fell out of a window. In NJ, only apartment houses are required to have window guards, not residential homes.

Plus, there are 10 windows on the second floor even if I was in favor, which I'm not.

Is this request reasonable?

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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. Curious about this...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:14 PM
Oct 2019

“ In NJ, only apartment houses are required to have window guards, not residential homes. ”

Are children less likely to fall out of an apartment house than a single family home?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,701 posts)
2. Installing window guards will be a hell of a lot cheaper than a lawsuit
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:32 PM
Oct 2019

that could ruin you if a kid fell out one of your windows and became paraplegic. The standard for tort liability is what a reasonable person would do to prevent foreseeable harm. It's foreseeable that a small child could fall out of an unguarded window and be seriously injured as the result of a two-story fall, and a jury could conclude that in light of this foreseeable possibility, a reasonable landlord would install window guards. You might also check with your insurance company.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
3. Seal the windows shut - or just most of the windows.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 11:46 PM
Oct 2019

Can you seal the windows on the second floor shut? Or, seal the majority of them shut and install a few window guards strategically so they can open windows for cross-ventilation. Might be a way to meet them in the middle.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
5. I think American Disabilities Act says
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:14 AM
Oct 2019

That should the disabled need special equipment beyond expressed items, the disabled could pay for installation of things like that. That landlords can’t refuse to install but don’t have to pay for it.

Anyway are these children disabled?

I think if they want window guards I’d to get written permission from the landlord (you?) to install them and at the end of the tenancy put the property back into its original condition.

I think city can have requirements for disabled but not for protective parents.

Niagara

(7,613 posts)
7. The options are endless these days for child safety window locks
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 01:29 AM
Oct 2019

It would depend on what type of windows that are on the 2 story. Here is one example from Home Depot and few others from Youtube. I hope this helps.













tirebiter

(2,537 posts)
8. Have you gotten a deposit?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:30 AM
Oct 2019

Tel ‘em to go ahead but any damage done in the process will need be covered by said deposit.

no_hypocrisy

(46,114 posts)
9. Should I even rent to a family that believes its 4 yo is prone to fall out of a window?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:36 AM
Oct 2019

I finished four years with a family with four children, two of whom were ten when they first moved in. No problems.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
11. I wouldn't rent to them. Their unreasonable demand does not auger well for a happy experience.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:18 AM
Oct 2019

I've rented to many (over many years). My instinct (gut) would be telling me that these tenants will be a constant pain in the ass.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
14. I hear you.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:50 AM
Oct 2019

I think they should put their own window guards (whatever that is) on if they seem to think their tot will be roaming free and climbing out of windows.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
15. I agree...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:59 AM
Oct 2019

Put this on them. But I kinda agree with the above as well. They may be unreasonable all the time.

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
10. I'm such an idiot
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:15 AM
Oct 2019

You mean I could have gotten my landlord to child proof my apartment?
Look, they have the responsibility to see that the kids are safe-not you.
Send them down the road

hlthe2b

(102,278 posts)
12. I understand the dilemma, but window locks are cheap or sealing some of the windows...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:21 AM
Oct 2019

As much as I consider child safety to be paramount, I do wonder where the responsibility for landlord ends though since you bring this up. Are you responsible for fencing the yard to prevent children from running into the street and in the path of cars? Installing barriers to trees to prevent children from climbing and potentially fall from their limbs? Removing any ornamental plants that, if ingested, could be toxic?

Where does "reasonable," begin and end?

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
13. They should be looking at apt buildings then since they need window guards
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:45 AM
Oct 2019

Be careful other requests may be coming

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