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Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 12:53 PM Nov 2019

Why does all restaurant food tastes the same?

I have traveled quite a bit overseas and it seems like in America, every chef's interpretation is the same.

I mean, in Germany a schnitzel is pan fried, I have yet to see one here that wasn't deep fried. Sauerbraten is a bit sweet, last one I ate here was so sweet I gagged.

Tomato sauce in Italy is simple, here it's sweet and I see chefs throwing mushrooms, peppers, and all kinds of nonsense in it. I even had one guy break the spaghetti noodles into 4-inch pieces.

Chili sauce in Mexico is nothing like the bean soup they pass off here.

In Korea the bean paste sauce has a hint of sweet, here it's the first thing you taste.

To me, unless you find little hole in the wall places with local family cooks or very high end restaurants, all the food is overly sweet, fatty, and generally insipid.

Apple juice in Europe tastes like apples. Even the Nutella in Europe is not as sweet.

Is this the corn growers fault?

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Why does all restaurant food tastes the same? (Original Post) Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 OP
High fructose corn syrup. Lochloosa Nov 2019 #1
Sysco and GFS. They supply a LOT of US restaurants Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #2
"food" INDUSTRY Kali Nov 2019 #3
They say it takes two weeks for your taste buds to readjust. CrispyQ Nov 2019 #4
Watch where they get their food from: ret5hd Nov 2019 #5
I agree and also Ohiogal Nov 2019 #6
I often see people using the salt shaker before tasting the food pandr32 Nov 2019 #7
That's my super power! OriginalGeek Nov 2019 #16
Allegedly the American palette favors super sweet foods Apollo Zeus Nov 2019 #8
I grew up very Italian and with the exception of a few dishes Drahthaardogs Nov 2019 #9
The lunch room in my grade school was run by Italian American women Apollo Zeus Nov 2019 #10
The mozzarella in Italy is to die for. safeinOhio Nov 2019 #11
you can get that in the states Apollo Zeus Nov 2019 #12
For some reason, when I got back from Italy safeinOhio Nov 2019 #13
American versions of foreign foods Buzz cook Nov 2019 #14
Yes. Plus scientists were studying what was worse for your body, sugar or fat applegrove Nov 2019 #15
 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
2. Sysco and GFS. They supply a LOT of US restaurants
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:00 PM
Nov 2019

with canned goods. Giving every restaurant who uses their products a homogenous taste.

Kali

(55,020 posts)
3. "food" INDUSTRY
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:01 PM
Nov 2019

not the corn growers as much as the "buyers" - sweet is an evolutionary driver and we are addicted. we have little food culture in modern USA so we are attracted (trained, led, fed) to shit that various middlemen produce and "enhance" for profit.

CrispyQ

(36,518 posts)
4. They say it takes two weeks for your taste buds to readjust.
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:04 PM
Nov 2019

The American diet is heavy on sugar & sodium. When I'm cooking from recipes, I almost always cut sugar in half & leave out the sodium (unless I'm baking).

ret5hd

(20,522 posts)
5. Watch where they get their food from:
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:08 PM
Nov 2019

Probably a truck with a "Sysco" or a "Ben E. Keith" logo.

Try asking for something like a half-side of fries, beans or something with your meal. It probably comes in a sealed single-serve plastic bag that they nuke or drop in boiling water to heat up...they can't give you a half order because it doesn't come bagged that way.

We have a rule-of-thumb: If a place advertises on tv, we don't bother...but then we only go out to eat maybe 4 times a year. But when we do, we want it to be fresh made from truly fresh ingredients. We don't mind if it costs a little more because we do it so seldom. Several of the restaurants in our rotation we see the chef/buyer/owner at our local farmers market buying the veggies for the day/week.

pandr32

(11,615 posts)
7. I often see people using the salt shaker before tasting the food
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:19 PM
Nov 2019

I guess it's a habit.
Food is way too sweet here. It makes me gag, but apparently, the public likes food to be overly sweet and sugar in everything.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
16. That's my super power!
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 03:32 PM
Nov 2019

I can just look at a plate of food and immediately know how much salt to shake on it.


But if Einstein saw me do it he wouldn't hire me.



Since my doctor made me cut out sugar all I crave is sugar. Office donuts just about kill me not to eat but they'll kill me for sure If I do.

Apollo Zeus

(251 posts)
8. Allegedly the American palette favors super sweet foods
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:21 PM
Nov 2019

At least that is the reason that food processors will give you.

I love savory foods and am annoyed when there are sweet flavors put into foods that are savory. Bought some whole grain wraps from Mission and they were sweet as a cookie. The ingredients proudly listed "organic sugar." I called the hotline to ask if they made any products without sugar and they sort of yawned and said "no...is that all?" *click*

Then I saw sugar listed in their "traditional style flour tortillas" WTH?

In the US restaurant food all has a similar taste which is:
- canola oil
- excessive salt
- real and artificial sweeteners

Just bought a loaf of Sara Lee's new brioche bread and granted, I expect brioche to have a sweetness to it but this has the most disgusting 'Bazooka Joe' note. An odd chemical sweetness that cuts through everything else.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
9. I grew up very Italian and with the exception of a few dishes
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:45 PM
Nov 2019

Sweet is sweet and savory is savory and the two don't really mix often. I don't eat out much in America. For me the biggest shock is fruit juice in Europe vs. here.

Apollo Zeus

(251 posts)
10. The lunch room in my grade school was run by Italian American women
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:53 PM
Nov 2019

(that I loved).

To me the great thing about Italian food is the bell tone purity of the tastes. And then the way they stack one pure flavor against another.

Basil, mozzarella, fresh tomato slice...done!

Meanwhile we sweeten fruit juice (!) and make is syrupy. We are like a nation of hummingbirds.

Apollo Zeus

(251 posts)
12. you can get that in the states
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 02:12 PM
Nov 2019

Some Trader Joe's stock it -- flown in from Italy, and some gourmet grocers and cheese shops also. And yes! whole different creature (literally). I love it when it blisters in high heat like a toasted marshmellow.

I worked for a while in the same building as Alitalia's US HQ and they would let us all eat lunch in their cafeteria because they were so proud of their food. Much of it was flown in to JFK. My grade school prepared me well for the working world

Buzz cook

(2,474 posts)
14. American versions of foreign foods
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 02:53 PM
Nov 2019

Usually are not representative of an entire national cuisine. Chinese food in America was for many years versions of Cantonese cuisine. And that food had almost a century to Americanize before other types of Chinese foods were introduced.
Sichuan style food wasn't available till the late 1970s and it didn't take more than a decade for it to be assimilated.

The same is true of Italian food, mostly from Sicily and Southern Italy and almost a century of mainstreaming.

Here in the Northwest most of our original Mexican restaurants were started by people from Jalisco state. More recently we've had immigrants from Puebla and other states. We'll see how that shakes out.

applegrove

(118,790 posts)
15. Yes. Plus scientists were studying what was worse for your body, sugar or fat
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 12:48 PM
Nov 2019

back in the day. And with the exception of transfats, sugar is far worse. But the sugar lobby won so they started to make everything fat free and replaced the fat with sugar to make the taste. Of course now we know sugar makes you obese and healthy fats should be a small portion of your diet.

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