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Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 07:22 PM Jun 2012

Anyone know anything about beavers?

Stop it. Not that kind of beaver. The little furry ones. Good grief...with the tail.

There is a "dry" creek behind where I work and there was a beaver in it. Everyone told me I'm crazy because "there are no beavers in Arizona." I'm not stupid. I lived in Illinois most of my life. I know a damned beaver when I see it. I also know that cats don't leave marks like that on trees.

Why would a beaver be in a dry creek? The creek does occasionally have a LOT of water flowing, but only when it rains or snows. Up until about 5 years ago, it was still flowing.

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Anyone know anything about beavers? (Original Post) Wait Wut Jun 2012 OP
Arizona Game and Fish Department says here's their habitat: Ptah Jun 2012 #1
Huh. I think I'm in there somewhere. Wait Wut Jun 2012 #3
Some 'Arizona natives' need to get out more. Ptah Jun 2012 #4
No kidding. Wait Wut Jun 2012 #9
they are flat out wrong Kali Jun 2012 #28
that map is wack Kali Jun 2012 #27
Reintroduced beavers branching out in San Pedro Ptah Jun 2012 #29
IBTL HopeHoops Jun 2012 #2
Go to your room. Wait Wut Jun 2012 #5
I'm in my "man cave" right now. Actually it's just the computer room, however... HopeHoops Jun 2012 #7
It took you 9 whole minutes to find this thread? Are you feeling OK? petronius Jun 2012 #11
I was probably watching a TRMS or TYT clip. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #31
maybe the damned beaver, dammed up the damn creek and that's why the damned creek's run dry NightWatcher Jun 2012 #6
LOL!!! Wait Wut Jun 2012 #10
Well beavers can sometimes be pests, in the right situation, they can also help... Kaleva Jun 2012 #8
HELP WANTED TexasTowelie Jun 2012 #12
In my youth... Wait Wut Jun 2012 #14
Back in IL they would screw up the people dams. Wait Wut Jun 2012 #13
What? You want to know why the beaver is dry and not wet? rug Jun 2012 #15
Making dry places wet is what beavers do. bluedigger Jun 2012 #16
The beaver will build a dam and capture some of that water and make it wet. Be warned of the applegrove Jun 2012 #17
Yes. Do NOT anger a beaver. NYC_SKP Jun 2012 #18
Beavers attack, and in groups Taverner Jun 2012 #19
Groups of angry beavers have, indeed, ravaged entire communities. NYC_SKP Jun 2012 #20
Angry Beavers hobbit709 Jun 2012 #26
I'm disappointed. Wait Wut Jun 2012 #33
We are the Beaver RZM Jun 2012 #21
Beavers eat their own poop. Arctic Dave Jun 2012 #22
Did not know that Generic Brad Jun 2012 #25
! Wait Wut Jun 2012 #34
Beaver...little furry ones...*snicker*...tail flvegan Jun 2012 #23
I felt a disturbance in the Force... as if billions of people whispered "HopeHoops" in unison. MiddleFingerMom Jun 2012 #24
Beavers held up the building of a Lowes & Walmart............ mrmpa Jun 2012 #30
Damn! (No pun intended, but...heh) Wait Wut Jun 2012 #32
groundhogs look a lot like beavers except for the lack of a flat tail. mysuzuki2 Jun 2012 #35
No. Wait Wut Jun 2012 #37
The tail tells the tale, of course. I think that's cool that you have beavers in your area. Enjoy! mysuzuki2 Jun 2012 #38
Summer rains might not be far off. Ptah Jun 2012 #39
I sure hope so. Wait Wut Jun 2012 #40
I LOVED the Angry Beavers cartoon when it was out about 6 years ago,,,,, benld74 Jun 2012 #36

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
3. Huh. I think I'm in there somewhere.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 07:32 PM
Jun 2012

I'm smack-dab in between Flag and Phx. So, why are these supposed "Arizona natives" telling me there are no beavers in Arizona? And why is that stupid beaver hanging out in a dry creek? Should I be concerned about him?

Ptah

(33,032 posts)
4. Some 'Arizona natives' need to get out more.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 07:34 PM
Jun 2012

Maybe that beaver is just scouting for when it does rain?

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
9. No kidding.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 07:41 PM
Jun 2012

It's unbelievable how little they know about their own state. Hell, most of the locals here have never even been to Thumb Butte.

I'm feeling bad for this little guy. He looked pretty healthy, though. It explains why that dead tree came down last week.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
28. they are flat out wrong
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:08 AM
Jun 2012

they WERE almost trapped out in the late 1800s but never all gone and have made lots of increases, plus G and F does capture and releases all over the place. There have always been beaver in AZ.

Kali

(55,014 posts)
27. that map is wack
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:06 AM
Jun 2012

there was just an article a few days (weeks?) ago in the paper about our local beavers (in the San Pedro)

Ptah

(33,032 posts)
29. Reintroduced beavers branching out in San Pedro
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:10 AM
Jun 2012
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/reintroduced-beavers-branching-out-in-san-pedro/article_8a72da1a-acdc-5299-ba51-b5399fa19e22.html

Aquatic rodents might not instantly pop to mind when you think of Southern Arizona wildlife -
but they're thriving this spring along the San Pedro River near Sierra Vista.

We're talking beavers - those dam-building, tail-slapping mega-rodents more often associated
with mountain streams than arid-region rivers.

"Beavers are doing really well right now on the San Pedro," said Marcia Radke, a wildlife biologist
with the U.S. Bureau of Land Management. "We're estimating the beaver population at about 100."

That's a big change since just a few beavers were reintroduced into the river beginning in 1999 -
about a century after trappers wiped out the last native beavers there.

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HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
7. I'm in my "man cave" right now. Actually it's just the computer room, however...
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 07:38 PM
Jun 2012

That's just too obvious an "IBTL" to pass up.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
11. It took you 9 whole minutes to find this thread? Are you feeling OK?
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 07:42 PM
Jun 2012

Tired? Distracted?

I figured you'd be in post #1 before the OP's mouse button even returned to the top of it's travel...

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
8. Well beavers can sometimes be pests, in the right situation, they can also help...
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 07:39 PM
Jun 2012

the local environment. It's been awhile but I did read about organizations who are transplanting beavers to areas they once habitated. Beaver ponds can help mitigate the effects of drought and help in reducing the damage caused by flooding.

You could make this something of an environmental project for yourself and others who may be interested. Observe and record what the beaver is doing and what, if any, noticeable impact it may be having on the very local environment.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
14. In my youth...
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 07:49 PM
Jun 2012

...when I was younger, healthier and more activisty...

I should have realized that it's easier to get a man interested in environmental protection if you mention beavers and cougars. I spent way too much time talking to them about veal.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
13. Back in IL they would screw up the people dams.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 07:45 PM
Jun 2012

Engineers got nothin' on these little architects.

That's a good idea about the environmental project. I'm just afraid to call anyone. The attitude here is any wild animal is a nuisance. I really can't see him having any impact at all. The creek is dry 95% of the time and there are plenty of trees up and down its banks. Plus, I've only seen one.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
15. What? You want to know why the beaver is dry and not wet?
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 08:25 PM
Jun 2012

Little furry ones?



And what's this about beaver tail?

I'm alerting!





bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
16. Making dry places wet is what beavers do.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 08:59 PM
Jun 2012

You may be about to be the lucky owner of waterfront property - well, your employer, anyways.

applegrove

(118,695 posts)
17. The beaver will build a dam and capture some of that water and make it wet. Be warned of the
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 08:59 PM
Jun 2012

collapsing beaver dam, it can cause a flood. (Annecdotal information from our cottage). There was even a beaver dam at the very top of the moutain behind our cottage if you will believe it. They'll build anywhere.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
20. Groups of angry beavers have, indeed, ravaged entire communities.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 09:24 PM
Jun 2012

Angry beaver "colonies", and they are called in large numbers.

Not a pretty thing, these beavers, when angered.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
33. I'm disappointed.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 12:01 PM
Jun 2012

No one has made a movie (that I'm aware of) called, "Attack of the Beavers!".

Hollywood has let me down, once again.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
22. Beavers eat their own poop.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 09:50 PM
Jun 2012

True story.

Their stomachs are not strong enough to break down the bark the first time so they have to re-eat it. Yummy.


Is that what you were looking for?

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
25. Did not know that
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:00 PM
Jun 2012

But now that I do, I will politely decline the Saturday dinner invitation the beaver family down the street sent to me.

And when I get mad at them for chewing down trees on my property, I now realize yelling "Eat shit" to them is futile.

I consider myself warned.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
30. Beavers held up the building of a Lowes & Walmart............
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:37 AM
Jun 2012

in my community for near 5 years. A creek runs behind these 2 stores and the beavers had to be relocated elsewhere on the creek. It took that long for the State's wildlife and other groups to get the habitat moved.

I praised those beavers, for fighting their eviction.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
37. No.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:58 PM
Jun 2012

The only way I could tell it was a beaver was the tail. Saw him again this morning! Little bastard is actually building a dam. I had to take the boss out to show him because he didn't believe me.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
40. I sure hope so.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 02:12 PM
Jun 2012

Our trees, even with irrigation, are dying. The husband adjusted the timer, but it's just too damned dry.

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