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Skittles

(153,193 posts)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 07:56 PM Jun 2012

question regarding diabetes shots

I'm uneasy and would appreciate any advice:

My mum passed away last year and she had been the primary caretaker of my severely autistic brother (age 51). Another brother now has custody and he and another brother want to vacation in Vegas in August. I have agreed to fly to Illinois to take care of my autistic brother but that would include giving him diabetes shots. My to-be-vacationing brothers insist it is nothing I could not learn in a couple days before they leave. Is this true? I'm not afraid of needles - I am a 42 gallon platelet donor, which involves a big needle in my arm for 90 minutes every month. But something about giving shots is concerning me. What sayeth you?

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Lars39

(26,116 posts)
1. You can practice on an orange at first until you get the hang of it.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:00 PM
Jun 2012

It helps if your brother is fairly cooperative, too. Take notes and insist that you be able to reach them whenever you need advice. You'll do fine.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
2. I give myself 3 injections a day.........
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:02 PM
Jun 2012

I thought for sure I could never do it, but it's pretty easy. The needles these days are very kind to the body. Just talk to your brothers, see if they rotate the injection area and how they determine the amount of insulin to be delivered.

This should also include glucose testing, which is drawing blood from his finger to the test strip.

Let us know how it goes.

If your brother is taking insulin and not one of the new types of insulin, such as Victoza or Lantus. It might be time to talk to Doctor and see if your brother is a candidate for one of the new types, which sometimes are just 1 injection per day.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. It's nothing, really, I grab a fold of my belly between my thumb and finger, insert needle and push
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:05 PM
Jun 2012

the plunger.

The trickier part would befiguring out how much insulin to match with the meter reading.
There are many youtubes showing all this stuff. Watch them, then have your wannabe vacationing brother show you the details...
I'm guessing this will go fine.

trof

(54,256 posts)
6. OK...I've done this for years. But it was on our cat.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:18 PM
Jun 2012

1. Your brother must be used to getting these injections.
Right?
2. They'll show you where and how.
3. He'll know you're helping him?

I have no experience with autism, so...

Anyway, it wasn't hard for me.
Skin pop in the back of his neck.
But it WAS a cat.

I had a friend who was diabetic and she gave herself the shot in yhe thigh.
This is probably NO help, but you are SKITTLES! and I know you can do it.

applegrove

(118,793 posts)
7. I did it with a cat. You are not trying to hit a blood vessel. You grab skin, jab the skin you have
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:21 PM
Jun 2012

grabbed taut anywhere, plunge, and you are done. It is much more complicated to figure out how much insulin you need to give.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
8. Like
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:29 PM
Jun 2012

the others said, easy enough, just have to figure out how much insulin based on readings, etc.

Mr Pipi has been doing it on himself for years. He also gave his mom her B12 shots, and we even self-vaccinated our old dogs.

Easiest insulin to use is the pen, where you can just dial the dosage. If we're in a restaurant or at someone's house for dinner he just jabs himself right through his shirt. I wouldn't recommend that, but he does it.

MiddleFingerMom

(25,163 posts)
10. My diabetes is controlled by oral meds, EXCEPT when I'm inthe hospital...
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:18 PM
Jun 2012

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... where they give me insulin shots -- the dosage is on a "sliding scale" according to
how high my blood sugar is when they give me a finger stick.
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The finger sticks are more uncomfortable than the actual shots (and the discomfort
is negligible from those sticks).
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The dosages seemed EASY enough to figure out -- nothing if the blood sugar is not
high... 1 "unit" if (arbitrarily -- they'll give you the REAL numbers to go by) it's 150-160...
2 "units if it's 160-172... etc.
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You give the shots in the outer upper arm or in the belly (when I first heard that, I
thought of rabies shots... which were given in the belly and EXCRUCIATINGLY
painful). Insulin needles are teeny-tiny and the vast majority of the time, I didn't
feel a thing (not because I'm a tough guy... but because they're seriously too tiny
to feel). You pinch the skin to raise it (I'm pretty sure) and further decrease the
already non-existent chance of hitting a vein with the small needle.
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The process is simple and the only thing to "dread" is that the fingerstick can feel
like a mosquito bite.
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Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
11. Hey Skittles - congrats on the 42 gallon platelet donation.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:25 PM
Jun 2012

(used to work at a Blood Bank and you guys were our heroes. - so few people take the time to donate a pint , much less the 90 minute apheresis procedure.) Sorry, know nothing about the shots.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
13. WOOT! Thanks Marie Marie
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 04:44 AM
Jun 2012

I work nights and feel bad that I cannot "give back to the community" via normal volunteering - but laying there with a needle in my arm watching a DVD - that is entirely doable. I have TONS of platelets (have only ever ONCE had a hand stick) and do doubles although I have a hard time passing the iron test sometimes

Raven

(13,900 posts)
15. Never thought I could do it but
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:37 AM
Jun 2012

I've given myself B-12 shots for 10 years. Nothing to it. After the first shot you'll be a pro. Good lucK with it!

revolution breeze

(879 posts)
16. After 3 days of training on nutrition and injections
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 11:32 AM
Jun 2012

which included mixing regular and NPH insulin, I was given the okay to take my 6 year old daughter with diabetes home. You can do it.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
17. It won't be too hard
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 12:12 PM
Jun 2012

You can do it. Insulin usually goes in at 45 degrees into the fat layer where as an I'M in straight in at 90 degrees into a muscle. I was so afraid of hurting people but it really is only the on the surface of the skin that feels it, for a quick stick and a sting and it is over.

The first shots I ever tried giving were combiotics for calves. I pinched and shot and cried out in the cow pen. Hated it. People are easier.

Kali

(55,020 posts)
19. combiotic! there is a word I haven't heard in a long time
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 04:09 PM
Jun 2012

can't get it anymore, it's all other more advanced stuff now, although you can still get regular penicillin.

first "kid job" at branding time was vaccinating with the big glass and stainless syringe

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