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What can I say? I used to go to DU during the GWB days, and loved everything I was reading. I was in college then. Years went by and things ebbed and flowed. I have been a pretty active member of the Democratic Party most of my adult life. Two years after voting age. Ive been been a precinct chair for for 12 years, a delegate for my State Central Committee more than once, and am continually involved-though mostly in a tertiary way these days.
Though Im always on our side, Im always looking at other ways shapes or forms in which we look at our societal consensus collectively and decide how or these days if we should concede to a determinate on how we govern ourselves.
Ill explain more about those questions later. These are philosophical arguments. But philosophy shapes ideology, which shapes mass implementation through social consensus. I believe that we are entering the winter of that agreed upon social consensus and incrementally moving toward that dark cloud of fascism.
I also forgot to mention. Im a Brown Beret. And reside in the desert hinterlands. I see a distinct attack on my people and have seen the writing on the wall.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)I confess I had to look up Brown Beret
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Berets
rabid_decline
(36 posts)Because of the shit the feds did to break up minority groups way back in the day there is much dissension, distrust, paranoia and politics involved. Which means lots of disputed citations about the Brown Berets on Wikipedia. People keep starting accounts and trying to rewrite their own histories. I could give a pretty good history of pretty much all of it though. Through a realistic lens.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)yes indeed
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)It's the safest thing to do.
Welcome back R_D!
rabid_decline
(36 posts)There has been no subjugation of females or anyone in the Carnalismo Brown Berets of which Im a part of. In fact I was summarily harassed by other groups when I stood up for and took open testimony for females who were harassed in other groups. You can check out our website. I can send you or others the links. Which include periodicals from over 40 years ago
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)AIM, too.
rabid_decline
(36 posts)We have all worked in tandem at various times.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)I reside in a little snow and cold right now + wouldnt mind a little desert sun
The white extinction fear and anger is hard to miss
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)but no one here refers to our land that way. In fact I have Never heard our (NM Lands) referred to that way.....ever.
How small is your 'self' that u need to procurer stories of lands and people that are in NO WAY related to you?
rabid_decline
(36 posts)I was only referring to such lands in jest. In snark. Im not sure if youre trying to insinuate that I live where youre saying where you live. Im or if youre trying to oust me as to say where I live. I live in Aztlan. And my ancestry ties very deep to these lands. There might even be a good chance we know one another through proxies and shared concerns.
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)rabid_decline
(36 posts)Im always glad to be here! I love knowing we have people that are just more empathic and pragmatic about things. 👍🏼
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,637 posts)I really like your sig line! There is truth there.
I'm curious about the writing on the wall that you see. Perhaps sometime when you feel like it, you could elaborate on it and illuminate it for us.
You write well. I look forward to reading your posts.
Welcome!
rabid_decline
(36 posts)And thanks for the kudos on my writing. I suppose for the writing on the wall statement Ive guess Ive always felt an inner doom and gloom in my since I was very young. I started studying Hitler and the Nazis when I was four. I could read when I was two. I didnt revisit socio-genocital insurrections until I was a freshmen and in geography our finals were assigned as a focal point of study.
Just my fucking luck, I was given Croatia. Which technically didnt even exist as a country then in that era. The only thing I could do was study Balkanization and the war crimes and gebocide going on in the region.
It taught me this: it takes very, very little for an authoritarian to cause insurrection through tribalism. It taught me also that when such authoritarians have their hands on the levels of power, they can do the most egregious things and get away of it. The writing on the wall Im seeing is a precursor to a new holocaust. But my theory is that it will be much more subtle and far more nuanced than the ones the Nazis implemented.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,637 posts)and gloom from. That's a mighty tender age to be exposed to such things.
I'm not saying it was a bad thing, though--just unusual.
Insurrection through tribalism. This reminds me of tRump and his cabal wreaking havoc on our institutions and peoples.
A lot of people don't see this coming.
Some days I'm really glad I'm old and won't have to deal with this far into the future. Other days I want to live many more years.
Thanks for answering!
rabid_decline
(36 posts)And thats weird for sure. But I was a weird little kid. I was intrigued with the spectre of it all for some reason. My mother still talks with me about it. How my acumen for marketing stemmed from what I was studying at the time. I remember seeing the bombing of Osage avenue in the early 80s and it troubled me deeply even then as a little boy. I saw it live on tv. I remember the day Nelson Mandela was freed from prison. And how emblematic it stood as a hopeful fall of Apartheid. Hell, I even remember the YUGO car. That hopeful effort that stood to help prove Its autonomy from the Sovi-ets, and how it all happened before Balkanization. I remember and once had pieces of the Berlin Wall after it fell.
PatrickforO
(14,577 posts)I've got three grandchildren, and when I look at them and think of little girls and little boys who have been torn from their parents' arms and thrown into filthy cages, alone, lost, crying, utterly desolate, I am both sick at heart and furious.
These capitalist for-profit concentration camps dot the entire country and they are full of people who came here in good faith, under our own law, to seek asylum. But because of the white supremacy that has been carefully nurtured by the Republican 'southern strategy' and xenophobic spittle-spraying loudmouths like Lou Dobbs and Ann Coulter, a third of our population in the United States has come 'out of the closet' to racism.
I have posted a couple of times on this issue because the behavior of this Trump government is an offense to all human life.
Interesting story - I stated in one post that my fondest wish was to see Trump and his racist minions, down to the lowliest concentration camp guard, on trial in an international court.
Some guy on here said, on another thread, that the only way these people would be tried in such a court would be if we lost a war, and the powers allied against us took over, rounded up the fugitive ICE and CBP agents and for-profit concentration camp guards, then tried them. He said to believe otherwise was a 'masterbatory fantasy.'
I don't know about 'masterbatory,' but I do know we need to grow up as a species. That means coming together, making and executing plans on behalf of the entire human race.
Sigh. This country has been an oligarchy for some time. Our elected politicians all end up beholden to these interests to some degree - a much greater degree for Republicans. Some, Democrats, do have the courage to buck the powers that be, but the party of Trump, formerly the GOP, doesn't even try these days. They just drop the f-bomb, flip us off, and say they are scared of people who don't like Trump's policies.
Basically, it is all one giant lie. That is all they do - lie and lie and lie. Gerrymander some. Lie some more. It is cliche now, but you really CAN tell when a Republican is lying. It is when their mouths move and sound comes out
Good luck on DU, and welcome!
rabid_decline
(36 posts)All we can fight for is the truth. Truth lives and pervades everywhere. But it doesnt get the sunlight that it needs. Show your truths. Film that spread it viral. It can pervade. Humans as a species do tend to like justice. We all just want tranquility and no one no matter what stripe can argue that point
NecklyTyler
(1,173 posts)Karadeniz
(22,537 posts)rabid_decline
(36 posts)Mine is pretty pocho as well!
AllaN01Bear
(18,261 posts)been here since gore got his election stolen , .
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Welcome new friend! We have a huge range of interests and points of view on this site. Youll fit right in.
rabid_decline
(36 posts)I take Che with a grain of salt so to speak. He existed at a time that was... well an amazing time.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Communism was a new shiny idea with great possibilities. It had never been tried before.
But I think he would be a hero still, just more jaded like the rest of us are right now.
rabid_decline
(36 posts)Of his time. The weird thing about Che Guevara was his practice of pragmatism amidst chaos. He saw himself for what he was. But at the same time something larger. Im not sure Id even call him a martyr. He wouldnt want that. He was profound indeed. I might liken myself a little bit to him, but far more to Augusto Sandino or Rudolpho Fierrio
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