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LuckyTheDog

(6,837 posts)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:42 PM Jun 2012

So, when I got married, my wife didn't change her name and my mom was pissed

My mom said that my wife's desire to keep her family name indicated a lack of commitment on her part.

Well, folks, as of today, it's been 19 years since the wedding and we're still married.

You think I should rub my mom's nose in it, or wait till we make it an even 20?

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So, when I got married, my wife didn't change her name and my mom was pissed (Original Post) LuckyTheDog Jun 2012 OP
Wait for the 20 Sentath Jun 2012 #1
LOL Phentex Jun 2012 #3
Like, say, tell Mom he is changing his name to a hyphenated his-hers one? MADem Jun 2012 #31
I'd cut her some slack... Phentex Jun 2012 #2
My aunt didn't take my uncle's last name when they got married OriginalGeek Jun 2012 #4
I have an uncle that didn't even marry my (aunt) Major Nikon Jun 2012 #5
First... pipi_k Jun 2012 #6
I think the only time I felt bad for someone's last name was in boot camp. Liberal Veteran Jun 2012 #8
I drop it into the conversation casually. Liberal Veteran Jun 2012 #7
I didn't change my name and it will be 35 years in mid-July csziggy Jun 2012 #9
My wife took her last name as her middle name,,, she told me JUST in case,,,,, benld74 Jun 2012 #10
I didn't change my name. My grandma was horrified, didn't think I was "really" married riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #11
Same with me only it's my mother. Still addresses LuckyLib Jun 2012 #21
My family does the same with me TuxedoKat Jun 2012 #22
If you really want to piss her off... Wait Wut Jun 2012 #12
LOLing at your description Pool Hall Ace Jun 2012 #13
Reasons NOT to change your name when married angstlessk Jun 2012 #14
A close friend is going through that now. She has the divorce papers, but not the kcass1954 Jun 2012 #16
When I was divorced in 1990 HeiressofBickworth Jun 2012 #37
Naw...she knows by now that many woman keep their name and why... Tikki Jun 2012 #15
My son and DIL never even told us that she was keeping her maiden name. femmocrat Jun 2012 #17
re-read the OP...that is the reason for the secrets... angstlessk Jun 2012 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Jun 2012 #29
My kids think its funnier when they call HIM Mr. Riderinthestorm (using my last name)... nt riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #35
Got married in 2000 after living together for 25 years graywarrior Jun 2012 #19
My sister didn't take her husband's last name, which wasn't a big deal... Lucy Goosey Jun 2012 #20
Why should a woman be required to change her identity when she gets married? OrwellwasRight Jun 2012 #23
It's very odd--only in America! (And Britain...and Canada...and a few other odd places). MADem Jun 2012 #32
That makes more sense to me. OrwellwasRight Jun 2012 #36
Does your mom and your wife get along together pretty well? MrScorpio Jun 2012 #24
It's been 19 years and she's your mom. Let it go already! merrily Jun 2012 #25
It's the norm in mainland China aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #26
Moms get pissed cbrer Jun 2012 #27
I was actually surprised when my daughter took her husband's name. SwissTony Jun 2012 #28
I think you should treat your mom nicely TBF Jun 2012 #30
When I married my husband almost 14 years ago LibertyLover Jun 2012 #33
My grandmom didn't come to my parents' wedding. After 50 years... Patiod Jun 2012 #34
I was denied a marriage certificate because I didn't change my name. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2012 #38

MADem

(135,425 posts)
31. Like, say, tell Mom he is changing his name to a hyphenated his-hers one?
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:13 AM
Jun 2012

If the goal is gasket-blowing, that might do!

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
2. I'd cut her some slack...
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:50 PM
Jun 2012

it may not have mattered anyway. Maybe she's the kind who felt no woman would ever be good enough for you, lol.

Funny how my mom was always suspicious of the motive of the current boyfriend until the next one came along. Then the former one became a saint.

When my husband came along, she was against it from the start (for no reason). She asked if I were pregnant. (No.)

In my wedding pictures, she looks like someone just died.

Twenty years later, she thinks he's THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO ME!



OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
4. My aunt didn't take my uncle's last name when they got married
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:51 PM
Jun 2012

and there was no question about their commitment. They were going on 20something years when he died 2 years ago and she's still a big part of our lives. The name thing never bothered any of us. My grandma (my uncle's mother) never had a problem with it and she was old when she passed away. My aunt still checks in on my grandpa every day.


I'd say 19 years gets you a few good-natured digs (lol, though I reckon it depends on your relationship with mom).


People are toooooo tied up in what they think oughtta be.


Oh and Happy Anniversary!



ps - coming from the other side and completely selfish of me but I anticipate suggesting the same thing to my daughter. lol

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
5. I have an uncle that didn't even marry my (aunt)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:55 PM
Jun 2012

They have been together over 30 years and still haven't gotten married.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
6. First...
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 12:56 PM
Jun 2012

Happy Anniversary


Second...a little something about my son's wife, who was all too happy to take his name when they married.

Her maiden name is about 13 letters long and contains maybe 3 vowels.

She got so tired of telling people how to spell and pronounce it.

Now she's thrilled to have a last name that people can spell and pronounce



Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
8. I think the only time I felt bad for someone's last name was in boot camp.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jun 2012

They made you stencil your name on EVERYTHING with these horrible pens that hardly worked.

Having a 3 character last name, I had it so much easier than Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff.

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
7. I drop it into the conversation casually.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:55 PM
Jun 2012

Them: I'm so glad you could come visit us.

Me: Well, in the 22 years that we've been together, it has been difficult making the trip across country. It's not like 23 years ago before we moved in together when we could just pick up and go on a whim. We are hoping to do more traveling on our 23rd anniversary. Did you know we've barely seen the cousins since we moved away two decades ago?

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
9. I didn't change my name and it will be 35 years in mid-July
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:24 PM
Jun 2012

My MIL doesn't care about the name thing, but she still hasn't forgiven me for not having a big wedding (we got "married" by having a notary public sign the license - no ceremony, no religion involved). She told me it showed a lack of commitment. She hasn't mentioned as much in the last 20 years.

My Dad still puts what would have been my married name on some legal documents, just to make sure he covers all the bases, but I refuse to sign that name since it is not mine.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
10. My wife took her last name as her middle name,,, she told me JUST in case,,,,,
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 02:32 PM
Jun 2012

we've just done 25 years,,,

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
11. I didn't change my name. My grandma was horrified, didn't think I was "really" married
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:04 PM
Jun 2012

if I didn't change my name. Kept insisting is was part of the legalities and how I was going to be living in sin if I didn't change it. To her dying day she addressed every letter, card, gift, note and phone call to me using my husband's last name.

26 years married, 28 years together....

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
21. Same with me only it's my mother. Still addresses
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:49 PM
Jun 2012

stuff to me using my husband's last name. There is no such person with that name. Period. Sometimes they just can't let go.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
12. If you really want to piss her off...
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:03 PM
Jun 2012

...change your last name to your wife's. It worked for a friend of mine. They never heard from his mother again.

My DIL didn't change her last name. But, she has this really beautiful Japanese name that sounds like poetry. My last name sounds like you're yelling at someone while trying to hack up a hairball.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
14. Reasons NOT to change your name when married
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:39 PM
Jun 2012

When your social security card, birth certificate and legitimate drivers license from another state is not enough...one needs to present a marriage certificate ALSO because the name on the birth certificate is different than that on other documents!...GRR!..17 MORE DOLLARS AND A WAIT OF UP TO 6 MONTHS!...Married 25 years ago, and separated 20 years ago...GRR, did I forget to say GRR?

kcass1954

(1,819 posts)
16. A close friend is going through that now. She has the divorce papers, but not the
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:51 PM
Jun 2012

marriage certificate. She's waiting for Ohio to get it to her so she can renew her already expired driver's license. All this for a marriage that ended thirty-something years ago.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
37. When I was divorced in 1990
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:51 PM
Jun 2012

I requested a name change back to my birth name. After an initial round of changing my name on everything, I now have no problems at all. All documents match.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
15. Naw...she knows by now that many woman keep their name and why...
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:43 PM
Jun 2012

Well, my mother wouldn't come to my wedding because I was only 18...
But all of my husband's family was there... I couldn't wait to change my name.


and this Summer we will celebrate our 45th anniversary.

Tikki

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
17. My son and DIL never even told us that she was keeping her maiden name.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:33 PM
Jun 2012

I found out a couple of years after the wedding. Now they are having a baby and we don't know what the baby's name(s) will be.

Does it matter? Not really, but it would be nice to be "in the loop"! What's with all the secrets?

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
18. re-read the OP...that is the reason for the secrets...
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:44 PM
Jun 2012

some folks would rather beg forgiveness than ask permission...

Response to femmocrat (Reply #17)

Lucy Goosey

(2,940 posts)
20. My sister didn't take her husband's last name, which wasn't a big deal...
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:45 PM
Jun 2012

...but everyone was shocked (SHOCKED!) that their daughter got her last name instead of his. They had a lot of people kind of demand to know why their daughter wouldn't get her dad's last name - I was really surprised by how upset some people, even casual acquaintances, were.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
23. Why should a woman be required to change her identity when she gets married?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 11:32 PM
Jun 2012

A man isn't expected to. The tradition is dumb. Yes, rub your mom's nose in it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. It's very odd--only in America! (And Britain...and Canada...and a few other odd places).
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:23 AM
Jun 2012

In many cultures, you have your father's name and your mother's name when you are born.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
36. That makes more sense to me.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 07:14 PM
Jun 2012

The US system is weird. How do you go from being Jane Grey for the first 20, 30, 40 whatever years of your life and all of a sudden, you're Jane Brown. It's weird. And men act like it is nothing. You're just supposed to do it if you love them. BS.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
24. Does your mom and your wife get along together pretty well?
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 02:30 AM
Jun 2012

If they do, forget about the nose rubbing.

If they don't, go for it.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
26. It's the norm in mainland China
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 03:23 AM
Jun 2012

Married women keep their maiden name but the children take the husband's last name. It isn't seen as a sign of independence or disrespect. It's the ancient tradition. I've also seen couples adopt the western tradition when they immigrate to the west.

 

cbrer

(1,831 posts)
27. Moms get pissed
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 04:34 AM
Jun 2012

Women and cats do as they please. Men and dogs need to relax and get used to the idea.

Robert Anson Heinlein

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
28. I was actually surprised when my daughter took her husband's name.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 05:55 AM
Jun 2012

Hadn't expected that.

Her choice, of course. And I back her 100%.

TBF

(32,060 posts)
30. I think you should treat your mom nicely
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 08:09 AM
Jun 2012

and remember that parents make mistakes too. No need to rub anyone's "nose in it".

She knows very well that you're still married.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
33. When I married my husband almost 14 years ago
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 11:55 AM
Jun 2012

I decided not to take his name because everyone at the office knew me as My Last Name and to change would have been difficult. He was fine with my decision. My mom was thrilled because she hated him and figured it would be easier for me when she finally got me to leave him. Most of my relatives have no particular problem, although one of my aunts always addresses the holiday card to "Mr & Mrs His Last Name". Once time our postman put a question mark on it as if to ask if I were really Mrs. His Last Name. The one time it was an issue was a few years ago during one of my husband's hospital trips. He was having surgery on a torn rotator cuff on an out-patient basis (isn't most surgery like that these days) and I was in the waiting room. His surgeon came in and the receptionist paged "Mrs. His Last Name". I heard the page, but it didn't click that they wanted me. I was close enough to the receptionist to hear her say to the doctor that she knew I was in the room. That's when it hit me that it was me they were looking for, so I walked up and said that I was Mr. His Last Name's wife. The doctor and the receptionist both looked at me like I was a total idiot. So I mentioned that I didn't have the same last name. The receptionist, an older lady, looked scandalized at the very thought of a woman not taking her husband's name. Sorry, I don't make decisions based on your petty concerns.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
34. My grandmom didn't come to my parents' wedding. After 50 years...
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 01:02 PM
Jun 2012

My mom called my grandmother (who lived to be 100) and said "Charlie and I have been married 50 years. Pretty good for a marriage you didn't think would last, huh?"

You know what my grandmother said?

"His sister Margreta was married 55 years, and now she are getting a divorce, so you never know."

I kid you not.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
38. I was denied a marriage certificate because I didn't change my name.
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 06:04 PM
Jun 2012

Many years ago my first husband and I went down to the court house to register a declaration of common-law marriage in Texas. The old grumpy county clerk tore up three forms with carbons because I refused to change my name.

I asked him, "Can you tell me where in the Texas Family Code it says I have to change my name?" He would not answer me because there is no requirement about names.

I went to a lawyer to see what my options were and he said the clerk committed a misdemeanor by not carrying out the official duties of his office. We got a marriage license and went to the JP.

His parents thought i was a horrible person because I didn't change my name. When we were living together they called us up and said, "Oh if you live together for six months you are gonna wake up one day and be married." I asked them, "Can you show me where it says that in the Texas Family Code?" They were not lawyers and thought they knew everything. My dad was a lawyer and later I went to law school too. Dad had told me the requirements of a common law marriage in Texas many times. It has nothing to do with time.

And with the guy I've been with for 18 years, I have not changed my name because his first wife's first name and my first name are the same. So there was another Mrs. Firstname Myguy out there.
She passed away recently. I don't know if it's safe to change my name or not. Both our last names are fairly easy to spell.

Some people don't understand when your maiden name IS your identity and you don't want to change it.

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